Re: [ogsa-wg] Profile definition v13
Tom,
Have you read the IBM license for WS-Security (http://www.ibm.com/ibm/licensing/977Q/2112.shtml). Apache will not sign this license as-is. I can email you the details of our objections to this license if you want me to. The concerns are VERY similar to the concerns Apache had for sender-id (http://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/sender-id-position.html). If you read the IBM license (or Microsoft's) you will see that it is next to impossible for an open source project to comply to the license requirements.
Thanks, dims
On 6/23/05, Tom Maguire <tmaguire@us.ibm.com> wrote:
It is unclear to me after reading through the threads what is the
Yeah, I get it now. Checking on the history and starting internal discussions. Tom Frey’s Law: “Every 5 years the number of architecture components double and the ability to comprehend them halves” Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. – Antoine de Saint-Exupery T o m M a g u i r e STSM, On Demand Architecture Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Davanum Srinivas <davanum@gmail.com> wrote on 06/23/2005 12:26:08 PM: license
issue.
Tom
Frey's Law: "Every 5 years the number of architecture components double and the ability to comprehend them halves"
Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. – Antoine de Saint-Exupery
T o m M a g u i r e
STSM, On Demand Architecture
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
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Re: [ogsa-wg] Profile definition 06/23/2005 08:23 v13 AM
Andreas Savva wrote:
I've uploaded v13 of the Profile definition. This includes a lot of edits from Jem and from the review done in the last (yesterday) call.
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-
ogsa-profile-definition/en/13
One little troublespot with the profile is that unless IBM and
Microsoft
are willing to adapt their IPR licensing policy for WSSecurity, there may shortly not be any functional open source WS-Security implementations
the summary of the current state is:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=111894292828449&w=2
and the licenses in question are
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/ip/standards/ http://www.ibm.com/ibm/licensing/977Q/2112.shtml
Unless these two vendors come to an amenable position, there isn't going to be an apache implementation (and that includes an end to WSS4J), which is going to prevent it from entering the 'community' section, or being broadly used.
Now, who was planning on using WSS4J in their products?
-steve
-- Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/
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