Fwd: [IDM] New NIST Publication: An Ontology of Identity Credentials
Useful for the dictionary / glossary effort? Alan Begin forwarded message:
From: Ann West <awest@EDUCAUSE.EDU> Date: October 20, 2006 8:27:12 AM CDT To: IDM@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [IDM] New NIST Publication: An Ontology of Identity Credentials Reply-To: Identity Management Constituent Group Discussion list <IDM@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Ken,
Yes, we do compare notes with the federal documents where relevant.
For instance, in the Enterprise Authentication Implementation Roadmap, the concepts and terms in some cases cite the OMB M-0404 E-Authentication Guidance for Federal Agencies. However, we also wrote some of our own definitions to either scope a broader term for use in the Roadmap context or explain a concept more simply or clearly. http://www.nmi-edit.org/roadmap/draft-authn-roadmap-03/1- concepts.html.
In short, glossary definitions will be similar, but not the same.
Best, Ann
-----Original Message----- From: Ken Brumbaugh [mailto:Ken.Brumbaugh@CSU.MNSCU.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:54 PM To: IDM@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [IDM] New NIST Publication: An Ontology of Identity Credentials
10/18/06
Ann
Will you, or any one, be doing a terminology/definitions check between glossaries that NMI-Edit has, and what NIST is now disseminating?
If this has not been done, it might be beneficial to the group to have this done by one party - and shared with others.
Using a common glossary could be most advantageous to many - particularly those of us, who are now starting this long IdM/IAM journey with our clientele.
Thanks.
Ken Brumbaugh, Ph.D. System Director, Identity Management & Directory Services Minnesota State Colleges & Universities Office Phone - 651-201-1429 Cell Phone - 651-269-9988
awest@EDUCAUSE.EDU 10/18/2006 12:36 PM >>> All,
If you are reviewing your identifiers and credentials, consider reading the new NIST draft "An Ontology of Identity Credentials - Part 1: Background Formulation" released on October 6.
http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/drafts/sp800-103-draft.pdf
Best, Ann
------------- Ann West NMI-EDIT Outreach Lead, EDUCAUSE Program Manager, Middleware and Security, Internet2 Michigan Technological University
Alan Sill TIGRE Senior Scientist High Performance Computing Center TTU ==================================================================== : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: Alan.Sill@ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ====================================================================
Hi Alan, thanks, but from a quick look these have a very narrow scope, and it doesn't seem to be particularly relevant to the current effort. - Jem
-----Original Message----- From: ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Alan Sill Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 9:48 AM To: ogsa-wg WG Subject: [ogsa-wg] Fwd: [IDM] New NIST Publication: An Ontology of IdentityCredentials
Useful for the dictionary / glossary effort?
Alan
Begin forwarded message:
From: Ann West <awest@EDUCAUSE.EDU> Date: October 20, 2006 8:27:12 AM CDT To: IDM@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [IDM] New NIST Publication: An Ontology of Identity Credentials Reply-To: Identity Management Constituent Group Discussion list <IDM@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Ken,
Yes, we do compare notes with the federal documents where relevant.
For instance, in the Enterprise Authentication Implementation Roadmap, the concepts and terms in some cases cite the OMB M-0404 E-Authentication Guidance for Federal Agencies. However, we also wrote some of our own definitions to either scope a broader term for use in the Roadmap context or explain a concept more simply or clearly. http://www.nmi-edit.org/roadmap/draft-authn-roadmap-03/1- concepts.html.
In short, glossary definitions will be similar, but not the same.
Best, Ann
-----Original Message----- From: Ken Brumbaugh [mailto:Ken.Brumbaugh@CSU.MNSCU.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:54 PM To: IDM@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [IDM] New NIST Publication: An Ontology of Identity Credentials
10/18/06
Ann
Will you, or any one, be doing a terminology/definitions check between glossaries that NMI-Edit has, and what NIST is now disseminating?
If this has not been done, it might be beneficial to the group to have this done by one party - and shared with others.
Using a common glossary could be most advantageous to many - particularly those of us, who are now starting this long IdM/IAM journey with our clientele.
Thanks.
Ken Brumbaugh, Ph.D. System Director, Identity Management & Directory Services Minnesota State Colleges & Universities Office Phone - 651-201-1429 Cell Phone - 651-269-9988
awest@EDUCAUSE.EDU 10/18/2006 12:36 PM >>> All,
If you are reviewing your identifiers and credentials, consider reading the new NIST draft "An Ontology of Identity Credentials - Part 1: Background Formulation" released on October 6.
http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/drafts/sp800-103-draft.pdf
Best, Ann
------------- Ann West NMI-EDIT Outreach Lead, EDUCAUSE Program Manager, Middleware and Security, Internet2 Michigan Technological University
Alan Sill TIGRE Senior Scientist High Performance Computing Center TTU
==================================================================== : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: Alan.Sill@ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ====================================================================
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Thanks Jem and Alan, It sounds like, (a) OGSA-AuthN glossary document, or (b) Glossary section of OGSA-AuthN specification are better place for these security related terms than (c) (general) OGSA Glossary. Just my two cents. Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto Treadwell, Jem wrote:
Hi Alan, thanks, but from a quick look these have a very narrow scope, and it doesn't seem to be particularly relevant to the current effort.
- Jem
-----Original Message----- From: ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Alan Sill Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 9:48 AM To: ogsa-wg WG Subject: [ogsa-wg] Fwd: [IDM] New NIST Publication: An Ontology of IdentityCredentials
Useful for the dictionary / glossary effort?
Alan
Begin forwarded message:
From: Ann West <awest@EDUCAUSE.EDU> Date: October 20, 2006 8:27:12 AM CDT To: IDM@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [IDM] New NIST Publication: An Ontology of Identity Credentials Reply-To: Identity Management Constituent Group Discussion list <IDM@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Ken,
Yes, we do compare notes with the federal documents where relevant.
For instance, in the Enterprise Authentication Implementation Roadmap, the concepts and terms in some cases cite the OMB M-0404 E-Authentication Guidance for Federal Agencies. However, we also wrote some of our own definitions to either scope a broader term for use in the Roadmap context or explain a concept more simply or clearly. http://www.nmi-edit.org/roadmap/draft-authn-roadmap-03/1- concepts.html.
In short, glossary definitions will be similar, but not the same.
Best, Ann
-----Original Message----- From: Ken Brumbaugh [mailto:Ken.Brumbaugh@CSU.MNSCU.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:54 PM To: IDM@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [IDM] New NIST Publication: An Ontology of Identity Credentials
10/18/06
Ann
Will you, or any one, be doing a terminology/definitions check between glossaries that NMI-Edit has, and what NIST is now disseminating?
If this has not been done, it might be beneficial to the group to have this done by one party - and shared with others.
Using a common glossary could be most advantageous to many - particularly those of us, who are now starting this long IdM/IAM journey with our clientele.
Thanks.
Ken Brumbaugh, Ph.D. System Director, Identity Management & Directory Services Minnesota State Colleges & Universities Office Phone - 651-201-1429 Cell Phone - 651-269-9988
> awest@EDUCAUSE.EDU 10/18/2006 12:36 PM >>> All,
If you are reviewing your identifiers and credentials, consider reading the new NIST draft "An Ontology of Identity Credentials - Part 1: Background Formulation" released on October 6.
http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/drafts/sp800-103-draft.pdf
Best, Ann
------------- Ann West NMI-EDIT Outreach Lead, EDUCAUSE Program Manager, Middleware and Security, Internet2 Michigan Technological University Alan Sill TIGRE Senior Scientist High Performance Computing Center TTU
==================================================================== : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: Alan.Sill@ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ====================================================================
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I agree that we should still be scoping the OGSA Glossary as a companion document to the OGSA Architecture document; and not as a comprehensive glossary of all OGSA related specs. Andreas Hiro Kishimoto wrote:
Thanks Jem and Alan,
It sounds like, (a) OGSA-AuthN glossary document, or (b) Glossary section of OGSA-AuthN specification are better place for these security related terms than (c) (general) OGSA Glossary.
Just my two cents. Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto
Treadwell, Jem wrote:
Hi Alan, thanks, but from a quick look these have a very narrow scope, and it doesn't seem to be particularly relevant to the current effort.
- Jem
-----Original Message----- From: ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Alan Sill Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 9:48 AM To: ogsa-wg WG Subject: [ogsa-wg] Fwd: [IDM] New NIST Publication: An Ontology of IdentityCredentials
Useful for the dictionary / glossary effort?
Alan
Begin forwarded message:
From: Ann West <awest@EDUCAUSE.EDU> Date: October 20, 2006 8:27:12 AM CDT To: IDM@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [IDM] New NIST Publication: An Ontology of Identity Credentials Reply-To: Identity Management Constituent Group Discussion list <IDM@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Ken,
Yes, we do compare notes with the federal documents where relevant.
For instance, in the Enterprise Authentication Implementation Roadmap, the concepts and terms in some cases cite the OMB M-0404 E-Authentication Guidance for Federal Agencies. However, we also wrote some of our own definitions to either scope a broader term for use in the Roadmap context or explain a concept more simply or clearly. http://www.nmi-edit.org/roadmap/draft-authn-roadmap-03/1- concepts.html.
In short, glossary definitions will be similar, but not the same.
Best, Ann
-----Original Message----- From: Ken Brumbaugh [mailto:Ken.Brumbaugh@CSU.MNSCU.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:54 PM To: IDM@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [IDM] New NIST Publication: An Ontology of Identity Credentials
10/18/06
Ann
Will you, or any one, be doing a terminology/definitions check between glossaries that NMI-Edit has, and what NIST is now disseminating?
If this has not been done, it might be beneficial to the group to have this done by one party - and shared with others.
Using a common glossary could be most advantageous to many - particularly those of us, who are now starting this long IdM/IAM journey with our clientele.
Thanks.
Ken Brumbaugh, Ph.D. System Director, Identity Management & Directory Services Minnesota State Colleges & Universities Office Phone - 651-201-1429 Cell Phone - 651-269-9988
>> awest@EDUCAUSE.EDU 10/18/2006 12:36 PM >>> All,
If you are reviewing your identifiers and credentials, consider reading the new NIST draft "An Ontology of Identity Credentials - Part 1: Background Formulation" released on October 6.
http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/drafts/sp800-103-draft.pdf
Best, Ann
------------- Ann West NMI-EDIT Outreach Lead, EDUCAUSE Program Manager, Middleware and Security, Internet2 Michigan Technological University Alan Sill TIGRE Senior Scientist High Performance Computing Center TTU
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Alan Sill -
Andreas Savva -
Hiro Kishimoto -
Treadwell, Jem