Hi Hiro, I think these proposals don't address the same functionality as WSRF. WS-Transfer may address part of WS-RP, but it doesn't support lifetime management. WS-Eventing is close to WS-BasicNotification. WS-Enumeration seems more relevant to aspects of DAIS or even InfoD. I don't know whether those WGs have looked at WS-Enumeration. I suspect that many scenarios that could use WS-Enumeration will also need lifetime management, which WS-Enumeration doesn't address. Dave.

-----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto Sent: 01 March 2005 13:18 To: 'Frank Siebenlist' Cc: 'OGSA-WG' Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] RE: GRIDtoday Edition: Tony Hey: 'Challenging Times for GGF & Standards'

Hi Frank,

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Could anyone summarize MS' WS-view, and how it differs from WSRF?

As already discussed, it is almost the same functionality but different way of rendering.

The following is the overview of their specification stack (or silo :-) You can find Enumeration, Transfer, and Eventing.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/webservices/default.aspx?pull=/libra ry/en-us/dnwebsrv/ html/introwsa.asp

Hope it helps, ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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-----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Frank Siebenlist Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:38 AM To: Hiro Kishimoto Cc: 'OGSA-WG' Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] RE: GRIDtoday Edition: Tony Hey: 'Challenging Times for GGF & Standards'

Could anyone summarize MS' WS-view, and how it differs from WSRF?

Thanks, Frank.

Hiro Kishimoto wrote:

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Hi all,

Absorbing article by Tony Hey.

http://news.tgc.com/nview.jsp?appid=360&print=1#342708 ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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GRIDtoday NEWS AND INFORMATION FOR THE GLOBAL GRID COMMUNITY --- February 28, 2005: Vol. 4, No. 8 --- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SPECIAL FEATURES ==============================================================

[ ] M342708 ) WSRF? WS-*? Where is GGF's OGSA Headed? By Tony Hey, Contributing Editor

Tony Hey, director of e-Science for the Engineering and Physical Science Research Council, continues to elaborate the need for open standards in the realm of Web services-based Grid computing. He discusses the great debate of WSRF vs. WS-*, and lays out

what the GGF

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must do with OGSA in order to give e-Science application developers something to rally around.

-- Frank Siebenlist franks@mcs.anl.gov The Globus Alliance - Argonne National Laboratory