Teleconference minutes - 5 December 2005

Minutes attached. Also https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20051205/en/1 Thanks to all who attended. -- Andreas Savva OGSA Teleconference - 5 December 2005 ===================================== * Participants Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu) Mark Morgan (UVa) Takuya Mori (NEC) Andreas Savva (Fujitsu) Jem Treadwell (HP) Minutes: Andreas Savva * November 30 minutes approved with no changes * Jan 2006 F2F update - Reviewed Hiro's revised agenda - Added a 1 hour slot for OGSA 1.5 on Tuesday - Hiro to do attendance survey * GGF16 update - Hiro to send out request for topic ideas to the list for 2 sessions at GGF16 and Friday F2F. * Review of BSP - Secure channel - Review of tracker artifacts based on draft 12 uploaded by Takuya - 1697: Fixed; Closed - 1698: as agreed split off some of the topics to a separate document. Modified Abstract, Introduction, and removed Claims relating to tokens and key information exchange. - Abstract: also delete saml token profile from first paragraph - Agreed to change name of the 'OGSA BSP' to something like 'OGSA BSP - Core' - Proposed that Secure Channel and WSRF profile composition is optional while composition with 'OGSA BSP' is mandatory - Discussed at length with no consensus reached. In particular it is unclear whether the functionality in the Core profile is required by all using the WSRF BP, or not. Also whether there is a real dependency between the Core and the Secure Channel. - Takuya will review and try to clarify the relationship between the Core profile and the Secure Channel further: in particular if there is a dependency between the two (core must be used with secure channel) or a looser relationship (may be combined). And whether there is any change in the relationship with the WSRF BP. E.g., if only the core may expose the claim defined by the WSRF BP should the text currently in the WSRF BP be modified? - Allow 1 week to settle this issue; rather than another document review discuss this issue on the list or on a call with Tom M and Frank S. - Normative and Non-normative references - Should these be separated and if so, should they be split by type of usage? (There are some inconsistent examples.) - Agreed on the call that if they are separated then they should be separated by usage. - Andreas will follow up with the GGF Editor. - Namespace table - The table should be re-checked since some of remaining entries seem unlikely to be used in the document. E.g., soap. - Appendix A. delete obsolete references (the first 2) - Appendix C needs update * OGSA 1.5 review - Andreas gave a quick overview of status - Waiting for 'Data Integrity' section from Andrew G. - Waiting for 'Infrastructure : Representing State' proposal from Jay U. - Waiting for Naming issue to be settled to fix a sub-section in Infrastructure. - Waiting for BES and Naming policy to be fixed to review the EMS revision - Fixing some terminology issues (use case and scenario, acronyms, etc) - Reviewed the glossary draft: new entries for acronyms. - Some concerns with drawing technical references from Wikipedia. The main issue being that the information may change at a later point so a reference might no longer look the way it was when cited. - In principle try to avoid such references. It is fine to put an informative link but there should be a more formal reference to a more stable source, e.g., an RFC.

Hi all, From December 5 telecon minutes;
* GGF16 update
- Hiro to send out request for topic ideas to the list for 2 sessions at GGF16 and Friday F2F.
Since deadline for GGF16 session request is 14 December (Wednesday), I would solicit session topics for; (1) Outreach session at GGF16 e.g. OGSA Town hall meeting (2) Technical session at GGF16 e.g. information model CIM profile guideline discussion (3) Technical sessions at Back-to-back OGSA-WG F2F meeting on Friday. e.g. EMS architecture, security architecture, ... Let's discuss them at upcoming Monday call. Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto

Hiro, On 12 Dec 2005, at 2:33, Hiro Kishimoto wrote:
Hi all,
From December 5 telecon minutes;
* GGF16 update
- Hiro to send out request for topic ideas to the list for 2 sessions at GGF16 and Friday F2F.
Since deadline for GGF16 session request is 14 December (Wednesday), I would solicit session topics for; (1) Outreach session at GGF16 e.g. OGSA Town hall meeting
OK
(2) Technical session at GGF16 e.g. information model CIM profile guideline discussion
OK
(3) Technical sessions at Back-to-back OGSA-WG F2F meeting on Friday. e.g. EMS architecture, security architecture, ...
This is OK for 'internal' OGSA work, but is it time again to actively seek out WGs that need to interact with OGSA. Possibilities include GRAAP - Long time no update on WS-Agreement JSDL - What's in the note book for V2.0? New File Transfer WG/BoF team - They are starting their engines now. Others??? Thoughts? -- Take care: Dr. David Snelling < David . Snelling . UK . Fujitsu . com > Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe Hayes Park Central Hayes End Road Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE +44-208-606-4649 (Office) +44-208-606-4539 (Fax) +44-7768-807526 (Mobile)

David Snelling wrote:
JSDL - What's in the note book for V2.0?
That's all very open to discussion at the moment. http://www.grid-jsdl.org/index.php/Future%20Developments%20in%20JSDL Donal.

Donal K. Fellows wrote:
David Snelling wrote:
JSDL - What's in the note book for V2.0?
That's all very open to discussion at the moment. http://www.grid-jsdl.org/index.php/Future%20Developments%20in%20JSDL
And JSDL-WG has a session scheduled to discuss post-v1 topics at GGF16. Given the timing I think it would be better for people to attend that session. (There's no point repeating the same discussion a couple of days later at the OGSA F2F.) Andreas

Andreas, This sounds good. We (OGSA) should identify a couple of folks to drop in on JSDL to make sure we are listening to them. On 12 Dec 2005, at 9:42, Andreas Savva wrote:
Donal K. Fellows wrote:
David Snelling wrote:
JSDL - What's in the note book for V2.0?
That's all very open to discussion at the moment. http://www.grid-jsdl.org/index.php/Future%20Developments%20in%20JSDL
And JSDL-WG has a session scheduled to discuss post-v1 topics at GGF16. Given the timing I think it would be better for people to attend that session. (There's no point repeating the same discussion a couple of days later at the OGSA F2F.)
Andreas
-- Take care: Dr. David Snelling < David . Snelling . UK . Fujitsu . com > Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe Hayes Park Central Hayes End Road Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE +44-208-606-4649 (Office) +44-208-606-4539 (Fax) +44-7768-807526 (Mobile)
participants (4)
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Andreas Savva
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David Snelling
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Donal K. Fellows
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Hiro Kishimoto