OGSA Teleconference (August 17)
Following is the proposed agenda for OGSA-WG teleconference on
Aug. 17th Thursday from 8:30am - 10:30am (CDT).
Dial-in numbers for Thursday:
Free: +1-888-452-0308
Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505
PIN: 71815
Screen share service will be provided.
URL: http://ogsa.glance.net
Session key: 0817
More explanation:
http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html
1) Early discussion (15 min)
Note taker assignment
Roll call
Telecon minutes approval (Aug. 10th)
(If available)
Telecon minutes approval (Aug. 14th)
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13739?nav=1
OGSA-15 F2F minutes (Roadmap)
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13734?nav=1
Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email)
Agenda bashing
2) OGSA Information Model & Data Model discussion (50 min)
(Ellen and Fred)
Overview of Information Model decisions from OGSA-15 F2F (July).
Material to be used in the call:
- OGSA Information Model & Data Model:
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13738?nav=1
- Information Modeling in OGSA Architecture Paper
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13726?nav=1
3) Common EMS and Data scenarios discussion (50 min)
(Dave/Allen and Steven/Andreas)
> There is a pretty clear need for EMS to be tied into Data. The key
> to making this happen is to have one or more scenarios that both
> EMS and Data agree to and are taking actions to ensure that their
> respective work satisfies those scenarios.
>
> EMS and Data [should] discuss scenarios and come to agreement on a
> plan to first create one or more joint scenarios and, two, to
> coordinate activities to ensure that our mutual work satisfies
> those scenarios in a compatible manner.
4) Wrap up (5 min)
AOB
<*NEXT CALL*>
Aug. 21 (Mon): Joint EGA call
Aug. 24 (Thu): CDDLM joint (Jun, Dejan, and Hiro)
Aug. 28 (Mon): Security (Takuya and Frank)
Aug. 31 (Thu): EMS scenarios (Andreas and Steven)
Sep. 4 (Mon): No call (Labor Day)
Sep. 7 (Thu): Roadmap (Chris), GGF18 prep (Tom and Hiro)
Telecon schedule:
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule/
<*ACTION ITEMS*>
AI-0803a: Hiro to look into an option for a second EMS/Data call
on Sep 7. Tentative; needs confirmation with likely
participants.
AI-0803c: Ellen to book the IBM facility on Thursday afternoon
AI-0803d: Hiro to divide GGF18 B2B F2F survey into three periods:
Thursday afternoon, Friday morning and afternoon.
AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why
using ID/IDREF is not a good idea.
AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment
variables
> From July 20 F2F
- Andreas and Hiro to revise the EMS scenario document (i.e. examples)
so that proposal 2 is fulfilled
+ Andreas will merge Hiro's updates into the next draft
- EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to
contribute use cases.
- Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to
Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes.
<postponed>
- Steve McGough & Andreas to do a mapping from the current JSDL
elements / terminology into the new information model structure
(Proposed split into Description and Requirements)
(from July 18th F2F, postpone until Aug. 17)
Andreas Savva wrote:
Following is the proposed agenda for OGSA-WG teleconference on Aug. 17th Thursday from 8:30am - 10:30am (CDT). [...] <*ACTION ITEMS*>
AI-0803a: Hiro to look into an option for a second EMS/Data call on Sep 7. Tentative; needs confirmation with likely participants. AI-0803c: Ellen to book the IBM facility on Thursday afternoon AI-0803d: Hiro to divide GGF18 B2B F2F survey into three periods: Thursday afternoon, Friday morning and afternoon. AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why using ID/IDREF is not a good idea. AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment variables
From July 20 F2F
- Andreas and Hiro to revise the EMS scenario document (i.e. examples) so that proposal 2 is fulfilled + Andreas will merge Hiro's updates into the next draft - EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to contribute use cases. - Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes.
<postponed> - Steve McGough & Andreas to do a mapping from the current JSDL elements / terminology into the new information model structure (Proposed split into Description and Requirements) (from July 18th F2F, postpone until Aug. 17)
I seem to recall that there was an action item (on me) from the August 10 telecon relating to review and updating of the EMS scenario document. It's important that we don't lose track of these things... Donal.
Hi Donal, Yes, you are right, there is an action item with your name (that you volunteered for and I am very appreciative---"one volunteer is as good as 10 pressed men" as one of my teachers liked to say) but the minutes from Aug 10 are not ready yet. I'm still waiting for the notes from the first hour of the call. I'll update the action list just in case.... Donal K. Fellows wrote:
Andreas Savva wrote: :
<*ACTION ITEMS*>
I seem to recall that there was an action item (on me) from the August 10 telecon relating to review and updating of the EMS scenario document. It's important that we don't lose track of these things...
Donal.
Donal's email motivated me to put the existing action list on the wiki. (This might make it easier to refer to and for other people--besides Hiro--to maintain.) https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.ogsa-wg/wiki/Action... or http://tinyurl.com/pzqs2 (This wiki page is not intended to replace trackers! Trackers record issues on documents.)
I seem to recall that there was an action item (on me) from the August 10 telecon relating to review and updating of the EMS scenario document. It's important that we don't lose track of these things...
Donal.
-- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd
Hi Andreas, Maintaining action items on wiki page is great idea. I like it. I think resolution page, which keeps all closed AIs with date, is also useful. I will create such page when I close some of AIs. May I ask note taker to add new action items to this page when draft minutes is published? Since each wiki page has short URL, I prefer this URL than tinyurl. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569?nav=1 Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto Andreas Savva wrote:
Donal's email motivated me to put the existing action list on the wiki. (This might make it easier to refer to and for other people--besides Hiro--to maintain.)
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.ogsa-wg/wiki/Action... or http://tinyurl.com/pzqs2
(This wiki page is not intended to replace trackers! Trackers record issues on documents.)
I seem to recall that there was an action item (on me) from the August 10 telecon relating to review and updating of the EMS scenario document. It's important that we don't lose track of these things...
Donal.
May I ask note taker to add new action items to this page when draft minutes is published?
As agreed in the past, the note taker's job finishes with uploading the minutes. It is the Chair's job to track actions and formulate agendas. 8-) Andreas Hiro Kishimoto wrote:
Hi Andreas,
Maintaining action items on wiki page is great idea. I like it.
I think resolution page, which keeps all closed AIs with date, is also useful. I will create such page when I close some of AIs.
May I ask note taker to add new action items to this page when draft minutes is published?
Since each wiki page has short URL, I prefer this URL than tinyurl. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569?nav=1
Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto
Andreas Savva wrote:
Donal's email motivated me to put the existing action list on the wiki. (This might make it easier to refer to and for other people--besides Hiro--to maintain.)
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.ogsa-wg/wiki/Action...
(This wiki page is not intended to replace trackers! Trackers record issues on documents.)
I seem to recall that there was an action item (on me) from the August 10 telecon relating to review and updating of the EMS scenario document. It's important that we don't lose track of these things...
Donal.
-- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd
participants (3)
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Andreas Savva -
Donal K. Fellows -
Hiro Kishimoto