Hi all, The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on December 1st Wednesday from 5pm to 7pm (CST). The dial-in number for Wednesday. Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 PIN: 71815 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://hiro.glance.net Session key: 1201 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (if available) Agenda bashing 2) December F2F meeting discussion (30 min) Agenda discussion Any other update 3) Interested party list discussion (30 min) Revised template review. - http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/OGSA_interested_party_survey - http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/BusinessGrid_draft List of expected responders by F2F meetings 4) OGSA arch v1 document update (30 min) Continue with review of v1 public comments. Last spreadsheet: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/documen/ogsa-v1-public-comments... 5) OGSA glossary update (10 min) Continue with review of glossary public comments. Last summary: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/10/msg00008.html 5) Wrap up (10 min) AOB Dec. 6th: No tele-con (Ravi is not available) Dec. 8th - 10th is F2F meeting in Washington D.C. <pending issues> ?) Process discussion until December F2F (?) Agenda items Design teams' deliverable and schedule Solicit attendees from related WG/RG/TCs https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/200412_draft_agenda_ou... e/en/1 ?) Roadmap document review (?) > - Ian had some comments on the revised version and it was decided > that it would be better to have him on the call. The version of the roadmap that came out of the Sept 1st call is on gridforge: http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/draft-ggf-ogsa-roadmap/en/2 ?) GGF12 Action Items () - Andreas will send out shortly ?) Aug F2F meeting Action Item review (?) Action: Heather to send details on the work WSDM is doing on Events. - Ravi and Andrew would like to be involved in this discussion. > Fred will keep an eye on work progress and inform the group > Andreas to send reminder to Heather again > Done Action: Andrew to check with Data team if producing a set of notes each detailing a decision and its rationale (Architecture (AR) notes) would be appropriate to solve the 'communication' problem (what OGSA-WG has discussed and decided) > - Andrew did not receive a positive or negative response so far > - Andrew to talk with people who brought it up; this will likely > not be before GGF12. Action: Frank to ask Ian for an MDS representative to join the Information Services design team > - Frank asked Ian; waiting for reply; will followup. Action: Jay to talk with Ian and Hiro and form a core design team to work on dependencies at architecture level (roadmap). > - Hiro will contact Jay Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto
Hi all, Attached is a draft agenda for F2F meeting next week. Let's discuss it at today's call. https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/200412_draft_agenda_ou... e/en/2 Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto
-----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 3:34 PM To: ogsa-wg@ggf.org Subject: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Dec. 1st call
Hi all,
The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on December 1st Wednesday from 5pm to 7pm (CST).
The dial-in number for Wednesday. Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 PIN: 71815
Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://hiro.glance.net Session key: 1201 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html
1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (if available) Agenda bashing
2) December F2F meeting discussion (30 min) Agenda discussion Any other update
3) Interested party list discussion (30 min) Revised template review. - http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/OGSA_interested_party_survey - http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/BusinessGrid_draft List of expected responders by F2F meetings
4) OGSA arch v1 document update (30 min) Continue with review of v1 public comments. Last spreadsheet: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/documen/ogsa-v1-public-comments...
5) OGSA glossary update (10 min) Continue with review of glossary public comments. Last summary: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/10/msg00008.html
5) Wrap up (10 min) AOB
Dec. 6th: No tele-con (Ravi is not available) Dec. 8th - 10th is F2F meeting in Washington D.C.
<pending issues> ?) Process discussion until December F2F (?) Agenda items Design teams' deliverable and schedule Solicit attendees from related WG/RG/TCs
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/200412_draft_agenda_ou...
e/en/1
?) Roadmap document review (?)
> - Ian had some comments on the revised version and it was decided > that it would be better to have him on the call.
The version of the roadmap that came out of the Sept 1st call is on gridforge: http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/draft-ggf-ogsa-roadmap/en/2
?) GGF12 Action Items () - Andreas will send out shortly
?) Aug F2F meeting Action Item review (?)
Action: Heather to send details on the work WSDM is doing on Events. - Ravi and Andrew would like to be involved in this discussion. > Fred will keep an eye on work progress and inform the group > Andreas to send reminder to Heather again > Done
Action: Andrew to check with Data team if producing a set of notes each detailing a decision and its rationale (Architecture (AR) notes) would be appropriate to solve the 'communication' problem (what OGSA-WG has discussed and decided) > - Andrew did not receive a positive or negative response so far > - Andrew to talk with people who brought it up; this will likely > not be before GGF12.
Action: Frank to ask Ian for an MDS representative to join the Information Services design team > - Frank asked Ian; waiting for reply; will followup.
Action: Jay to talk with Ian and Hiro and form a core design team to work on dependencies at architecture level (roadmap). > - Hiro will contact Jay
Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto
Hi all, Attached is the revised F2F meeting agenda. It includes the dial-in information (see following), too. Tel number: 1-484-644-0505 Pass code: 18907 http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/200412_draft_agenda_outline Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto
-----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:01 AM To: ogsa-wg@ggf.org Subject: Dec. F2F meeting agenda draft (RE: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Dec. 1st call)
Hi all,
Attached is a draft agenda for F2F meeting next week. Let's discuss it at today's call.
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/200412_draft_agenda_ou...
e/en/2
Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto
I'm not sure if I'll have the F2F minutes out by tomorrow's call so here is an excerpt relating to the use case handover to EGR (agenda item (3)):
3) OGSA usecase handover to EGR-RG (20 min) At the Dec. F2F meeting, OGSA-WG agreed to handover our usecase document to EGR-RG.
--- (Dec F2F minutes) --- * OGSA use case & EGR hand-over - Enterprise is 'smaller' than Grids? - (Hence smaller than OGSA so it would make sense to keep some of the use cases in OGSA) - So what happens with non-business grid use cases? - EGR scope seems quite large ('enterprise' is also not well defined); group is not against covering these use cases too - EGR is more than use cases; also requirements analysis - A revised/re-done use case document would probably be identified as an EGR document. - What is the process for getting back use cases or requirements from the use cases? - Still undecided; collecting process is main focus now - OGSA not the only group; EGR is also trying to collect use cases from other groups. - Would still need to do requirements analysis in OGSA-WG if the schedules do not match well. - (And the EGR work might take time to start up.) - It's likely that EGA will also publish its use cases. EGR should probably then (be ready to) tackle those too. - Proposal: Give use cases documents to EGR and receive requirements analysis - It is not clear yet what form the requirements analysis will take. Or the timing. - No objections to this proposal. - Next step is to put the proposal out on the list and make sure that there is consensus. (Hiro) - Ravi to send mail to EGR -----
-----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 12:04 AM To: ogsa-wg@ggf.org Subject: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Dec. 20th call
Hi all,
The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on December 20th Monday from 5pm to 7pm (CST).
The dial-in number for Monday. Free: +1-866-639-4741 Toll: +1-574-935-6703 PIN: 8980700
Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://hiro.glance.net Session key: 1220 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html
1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (Dec. 15 and more) - http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/minutes-20041215/en/2 F2F minutes approval (if available) Agenda bashing
2) Jan F2F meeting logistics discussion (if available) Tentative agreement for late in the last week of January (Wed-Fri, Jan 26-28) in the Chicago area Preferred location at the hotel where the PC meeting will be held
3) OGSA usecase handover to EGR-RG (20 min) At the Dec. F2F meeting, OGSA-WG agreed to handover our usecase document to EGR-RG.
4) OGSA usecase review by SAGA-RG (20 min) SAGA-RG has reviewed our usecase document for their simple API work. Chris, who has attended their F2F meeting last week, will fill us in.
5) GGF13 session plan discussion (20 min) Hiro will send out draft plan before the call.
6) profile and candidate profile discussion (50 min) Continuing discussion on profile definition. Deliverables and schedule discussion. David Snelling and Tom Maguire will lead this discussion.
7) Wrap up () AOB
Dec. 22 (5pm-7pm CDT) v1 doc and glossary group review
Jan. 5 (10am-noon CDT ?) Data design team Jan. 5 (5pm-7pm CDT) Basic profile discussion Jan. 10 (5pm-7pm CDT) Roadmap document discussion Jan. 12 (10am-noon CDT ?) Data design team Jan. 12 (5pm-7pm CDT) Basic profile discussion Jan. 17 (5pm-7pm CDT) EMS design team
<pending issues> ?) OGSA arch v1 document update (?) Continue with review of v1 public comments. Last spreadsheet: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/documen/ogsa-v1-public- comments/
?) OGSA glossary update (?) Continue with review of glossary public comments. Last summary: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/10/msg00008.html
?) Interested party list discussion (?) Revised template review. - http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/OGSA_interested_party_survey - http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/BusinessGrid_draft List of expected responders by F2F meetings
?) Process discussion until December F2F (?) Agenda items Design teams' deliverable and schedule Solicit attendees from related WG/RG/TCs
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa- wg/document/200412_draft_agenda_outlin e/en/1
?) Roadmap document review (?)
> - Ian had some comments on the revised version and it was decided > that it would be better to have him on the call.
The version of the roadmap that came out of the Sept 1st call is on gridforge: http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/draft-ggf-ogsa-roadmap/en/2
?) GGF12 Action Items () - Andreas will send out shortly
?) Aug F2F meeting Action Item review (?)
Action: Heather to send details on the work WSDM is doing on Events. - Ravi and Andrew would like to be involved in this discussion. > Fred will keep an eye on work progress and inform the group > Andreas to send reminder to Heather again > Done
Action: Andrew to check with Data team if producing a set of notes each detailing a decision and its rationale (Architecture (AR) notes) would be appropriate to solve the 'communication' problem (what OGSA-WG has discussed and decided) > - Andrew did not receive a positive or negative response so far > - Andrew to talk with people who brought it up; this will likely > not be before GGF12.
Action: Frank to ask Ian for an MDS representative to join the Information Services design team > - Frank asked Ian; waiting for reply; will followup.
Action: Jay to talk with Ian and Hiro and form a core design team to work on dependencies at architecture level (roadmap). > - Hiro will contact Jay
Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto
Hi all,
5) GGF13 session plan discussion (20 min) Hiro will send out draft plan before the call.
The following is a straw man for discussion; [Outreach session, more than 100 audiences] (1) OGSA status and roadmap (Ian and Hiro) - OGSA definition process - What is profile? - OGSA roadmap 2005/2006 [Design team sessions, less than 50 attendees] (2) Basic Profile session #1 (3) Basic Profile session #2 - Steve Tuecke, Dave Snelling, Steven Newhouse, Ian Foster, Tom Maguire, Mark Morgan, Abdeslem Djaoui, Takuya Mori, <HP>, <EGEE> - Draft review (4) EMS session #1 (EMS design team) (5) EMS session #2 (EMS design team) - Base EM profile discussion - EMS architecture discussion (6) Data service session #1 (data design team) (7) Data service session #2 (data design team) - Base data profile discussion - Data service architecture discussion (8) Naming service session (naming service team) - Review requirement document - Next step discussion (9) Design team report session (Ian and Hiro) - Report on the achievement at GGF13 - Schedule until GGF14 I value your feedback. ---- Hiro Kishimoto
-----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 12:04 AM To: ogsa-wg@ggf.org Subject: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Dec. 20th call
Hi all,
The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on December 20th Monday from 5pm to 7pm (CST).
The dial-in number for Monday. Free: +1-866-639-4741 Toll: +1-574-935-6703 PIN: 8980700
Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://hiro.glance.net Session key: 1220 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html
1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (Dec. 15 and more) - http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/minutes-20041215/en/2 F2F minutes approval (if available) Agenda bashing
2) Jan F2F meeting logistics discussion (if available) Tentative agreement for late in the last week of January (Wed-Fri, Jan 26-28) in the Chicago area Preferred location at the hotel where the PC meeting will be held
3) OGSA usecase handover to EGR-RG (20 min) At the Dec. F2F meeting, OGSA-WG agreed to handover our usecase document to EGR-RG.
4) OGSA usecase review by SAGA-RG (20 min) SAGA-RG has reviewed our usecase document for their simple API work. Chris, who has attended their F2F meeting last week, will fill us in.
5) GGF13 session plan discussion (20 min) Hiro will send out draft plan before the call.
6) profile and candidate profile discussion (50 min) Continuing discussion on profile definition. Deliverables and schedule discussion. David Snelling and Tom Maguire will lead this discussion.
7) Wrap up () AOB
Dec. 22 (5pm-7pm CDT) v1 doc and glossary group review
Jan. 5 (10am-noon CDT ?) Data design team Jan. 5 (5pm-7pm CDT) Basic profile discussion Jan. 10 (5pm-7pm CDT) Roadmap document discussion Jan. 12 (10am-noon CDT ?) Data design team Jan. 12 (5pm-7pm CDT) Basic profile discussion Jan. 17 (5pm-7pm CDT) EMS design team
<pending issues> ?) OGSA arch v1 document update (?) Continue with review of v1 public comments. Last spreadsheet: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/documen/ogsa-v1-public- comments/
?) OGSA glossary update (?) Continue with review of glossary public comments. Last summary: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/10/msg00008.html
?) Interested party list discussion (?) Revised template review. - http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/OGSA_interested_party_survey - http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/BusinessGrid_draft List of expected responders by F2F meetings
?) Process discussion until December F2F (?) Agenda items Design teams' deliverable and schedule Solicit attendees from related WG/RG/TCs
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa- wg/document/200412_draft_agenda_outlin e/en/1
?) Roadmap document review (?)
> - Ian had some comments on the revised version and it was decided > that it would be better to have him on the call.
The version of the roadmap that came out of the Sept 1st call is on gridforge: http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/draft-ggf-ogsa-roadmap/en/2
?) GGF12 Action Items () - Andreas will send out shortly
?) Aug F2F meeting Action Item review (?)
Action: Heather to send details on the work WSDM is doing on Events. - Ravi and Andrew would like to be involved in this discussion. > Fred will keep an eye on work progress and inform the group > Andreas to send reminder to Heather again > Done
Action: Andrew to check with Data team if producing a set of notes each detailing a decision and its rationale (Architecture (AR) notes) would be appropriate to solve the 'communication' problem (what OGSA-WG has discussed and decided) > - Andrew did not receive a positive or negative response so far > - Andrew to talk with people who brought it up; this will likely > not be before GGF12.
Action: Frank to ask Ian for an MDS representative to join the Information Services design team > - Frank asked Ian; waiting for reply; will followup.
Action: Jay to talk with Ian and Hiro and form a core design team to work on dependencies at architecture level (roadmap). > - Hiro will contact Jay
Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto
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Andreas Savva -
Hiro Kishimoto