Today's call is canceled due to lack of quorum. Thanks and apologies to all who came. Andreas
Sorry, I forgot to mention that if any group self-forms at a later point today and decides to have an ad-hoc discussion on any of the topics you should email the list. A number of people came for both the workflow and the security discussion but we were missing the leading figures. Andreas Andreas Savva wrote:
Today's call is canceled due to lack of quorum.
Thanks and apologies to all who came. Andreas -- ogsa-wg mailing list ogsa-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg
I came in early today (normally drive to drop my kids off at school between 7:30 to 8:00 each day) to participate in the requirements discussion for an authentication profile for the HPC use case. I will try to connect to the previously announced number at 8:00 am to see if that conversation can proceed.) In the meantime, any pointers beyond the gridforge pages to work done on the HPC use case in this regard would be useful. If we do connect this morning or in a future meeting, I would be willing to describe the AuthN/AuthZ infrastructure choices possible with which I am familiar for the cluster and HPC conditions. Alan On Dec 14, 2006, at 7:26 AM, Andreas Savva wrote:
Sorry, I forgot to mention that if any group self-forms at a later point today and decides to have an ad-hoc discussion on any of the topics you should email the list.
A number of people came for both the workflow and the security discussion but we were missing the leading figures.
Andreas
Andreas Savva wrote:
Today's call is canceled due to lack of quorum.
Thanks and apologies to all who came. Andreas -- ogsa-wg mailing list ogsa-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg -- ogsa-wg mailing list ogsa-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg
Alan Sill, Ph.D TIGRE Senior Scientist High Performance Computing Center TTU ==================================================================== : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: Alan.Sill@ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ====================================================================
Alan et. al., Having somewhat caught up with this desire within OGSA to create "very simple one-to-one, OGSA Basic Security Authentication Profile proposal", I think that the current "Security considerations" of the latest draft of the "HPC Basic Profile" (http://forge.ggf.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.ogsa-hpcp-wg/do cman.root.drafts.hpc_basic_profile/doc13736/5) might be what you're looking for. That is, we wrote up essentially a "very simple one-to-one, OGSA Basic Security Authentication Profile proposal" based on our collective experiences of the HPC Basic Profile interop demo for SC2006. The question, of course, is: to what extent does your definition of "simple" match our definition of "simple"? We're discussing this "security considerations" tomorrow (11 Eastern) in the OGSA HPC Profile call -- please participate if you're interested... -- Marty -----Original Message----- From: ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Alan Sill Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 8:36 AM To: Andreas Savva Cc: ogsa-wg Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] CALL CANCELLED I came in early today (normally drive to drop my kids off at school between 7:30 to 8:00 each day) to participate in the requirements discussion for an authentication profile for the HPC use case. I will try to connect to the previously announced number at 8:00 am to see if that conversation can proceed.) In the meantime, any pointers beyond the gridforge pages to work done on the HPC use case in this regard would be useful. If we do connect this morning or in a future meeting, I would be willing to describe the AuthN/AuthZ infrastructure choices possible with which I am familiar for the cluster and HPC conditions. Alan On Dec 14, 2006, at 7:26 AM, Andreas Savva wrote:
Sorry, I forgot to mention that if any group self-forms at a later point today and decides to have an ad-hoc discussion on any of the topics you should email the list.
A number of people came for both the workflow and the security discussion but we were missing the leading figures.
Andreas
Andreas Savva wrote:
Today's call is canceled due to lack of quorum.
Thanks and apologies to all who came. Andreas -- ogsa-wg mailing list ogsa-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg -- ogsa-wg mailing list ogsa-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg
Alan Sill, Ph.D TIGRE Senior Scientist High Performance Computing Center TTU ==================================================================== : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: Alan.Sill@ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ==================================================================== -- ogsa-wg mailing list ogsa-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg
Thanks, the information and link below are very helpful. I think a "simple" staring point is helpful, but people may also be interested in practical starting points for secure practices that are already in use. (I find it annoying, for example, as I'm sure you and others do also that the first steps of the Globus tutorials always start with turning off security as being viewed as "too complicated" for beginning users to understand. I think if presented properly, everyone is naturally interested in implementing a starting point that can give good security practices from the outset.) Given that this call appears to be cancelled, I think your suggestion to call in to the OGSA HPC call is a good one -- I'll be happy to join if you'll supply the call-in particulars. Alan On Dec 14, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Marty Humphrey wrote:
Alan et. al.,
Having somewhat caught up with this desire within OGSA to create "very simple one-to-one, OGSA Basic Security Authentication Profile proposal", I think that the current "Security considerations" of the latest draft of the "HPC Basic Profile" (http://forge.ggf.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.ogsa- hpcp-wg/do cman.root.drafts.hpc_basic_profile/doc13736/5) might be what you're looking for.
That is, we wrote up essentially a "very simple one-to-one, OGSA Basic Security Authentication Profile proposal" based on our collective experiences of the HPC Basic Profile interop demo for SC2006.
The question, of course, is: to what extent does your definition of "simple" match our definition of "simple"?
We're discussing this "security considerations" tomorrow (11 Eastern) in the OGSA HPC Profile call -- please participate if you're interested...
-- Marty
-----Original Message----- From: ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Alan Sill Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 8:36 AM To: Andreas Savva Cc: ogsa-wg Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] CALL CANCELLED
I came in early today (normally drive to drop my kids off at school between 7:30 to 8:00 each day) to participate in the requirements discussion for an authentication profile for the HPC use case. I will try to connect to the previously announced number at 8:00 am to see if that conversation can proceed.)
In the meantime, any pointers beyond the gridforge pages to work done on the HPC use case in this regard would be useful. If we do connect this morning or in a future meeting, I would be willing to describe the AuthN/AuthZ infrastructure choices possible with which I am familiar for the cluster and HPC conditions.
Alan
On Dec 14, 2006, at 7:26 AM, Andreas Savva wrote:
Sorry, I forgot to mention that if any group self-forms at a later point today and decides to have an ad-hoc discussion on any of the topics you should email the list.
A number of people came for both the workflow and the security discussion but we were missing the leading figures.
Andreas
Andreas Savva wrote:
Today's call is canceled due to lack of quorum.
Thanks and apologies to all who came. Andreas -- ogsa-wg mailing list ogsa-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg -- ogsa-wg mailing list ogsa-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg
Alan Sill, Ph.D TIGRE Senior Scientist High Performance Computing Center TTU
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