Hi Hiro, Dave and Jem,
We have discussed how to update these two document at the August F2F meeting.
From the meeting minutes;
Attributes document give information background and defines profiles. Hiro proposed to use profile format. Only part of document is profile, and the rest is informational. Part that is a profile can be changed to OGSA format. Tom: still struggling with document structure in OGSA. Discussion if document can be divided in two, to make clear what is normative and what is not. Consensus that will address this in version 2.
Oh, Hiro, you have already addressed the consensus. Please forget about my previous mail.
Personally, I prefer to bring this document back to section 4 and put their version 2 document into section 5.
I think that it is an idea. By doing that, we don't need to make the document conform to the Profile Definition, do we? If nobody argued on it, I'm going to move the entry to section 4.
Authorization document: SAML profile for an authorization service for a client to request authorization decisions. Have 3 or four implementations in the field working. Discussions that SAML was the right decision at this time, but further work will proceed with possibly an XACML authorization query interface as the basis. Tom, Frank: OGSI-oriented, need updates. Discussions on OGSA branding. Discussion with consensus to take current document to change OGSI references (Hiro: change name and re-submit to editor. Von will check with editor and re-submit). Also, create a new document with an OGSA (WSRF) specific version of it (Tom Maguire volunteers to help); part of charter of new extended OGSA-AuthZ WG. Next versions also follow OGSA. Discussions whether the authorization documents are specifications or profiles.
Given that OGSI is deprecated in favor of WSRF and WSN, I think their version 1 document should not be included in the OGSA roadmap. Instead, we should have version 2 description in section 5.
I agree with you. Actually, I was wondering if it is good to put the entry there, although it still has a dependency on OGSI. I'm OK to remove it. Shall we add another entry for the future version of it in the Future Profiles section?
Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto
David Snelling wrote:
Jem et al,
On 2 Sep 2005, at 15:57, Treadwell, Jem wrote:
I'm not making this the Final Call version yet, because I need to clarify something: although Takuya put the AuthZ docs in section 5, and I agree that they're profiles (though the Use of SAML doesn't actually mention the word profile), the versions I found on GridForge don't conform to the OGSA Profile Definition.
I mentioned this in the GFSG review prior to AuthZ going to PC. I'm hoping the Greg and the authors agree in time to use the Profile template, as it would make the document easier to follow and of course match the OGSA document structure. Note that the AuthZ authors are not bound (by their charter) to conform to the Profile template, but I think it would help all around. This may not happen until a later version.
In the meantime, I would list it in the Profile section, but note that it is not in the expected format.
I don't know how the authors responded to the note I put on the document's tracker. Greg, can you help?