29 Sep
2006
29 Sep
'06
9:16 a.m.
Hi all, Since my proposed agenda may give rise to misunderstandings, let me make myself clear: > 4) Removal of container model from BES spec appendix should read 'Clarify OGSA request to include "Container Model" as BES Appendix'. OGSA-BES-WG *is* sole authority of BES-spec and OGSA-WG respects that. We have had discussions in the past and an understanding that this appendix would be included. I would like to discuss the issues and identify a mutually agreeable way forward. I'd like to encourage both OGSA and BES members to attend this part of the call. Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto Hiro Kishimoto wrote: > Hi all, > > The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Oct. 2nd > Monday from 5pm to 7pm (CDT). > > The dial-in number for Monday; > US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or > +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) > UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) > Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) > PIN: 4371991 > See more information: > - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1 > > Screen share service will be provided. > URL: http://ogsa.glance.net > Session key: 1002 > See more explanation: > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584?nav=1 > > 1) Early discussion (20 min) > Note taker assignment > Roll call > Telecon minutes approval (Sept. 25) > - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13903?nav=1 > Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email) > Agenda bashing > > 2) Information/data modeling Xquery (Ellen, 30 min) > > Minutes from GGF18: >> generate 3 to 5 queries that might be issued; would like to use as a > > starter set for usefulness of XML document and to show how it would > > look like in XQuery. > > 3) Separation of service/info model (Tom, 30 min) > > Minutes form Sept. 25: >> - Another open issue is how does the Information Model work (in >> context of DMTF) comes together with the EGA reference model >> (dags). >> - A possible viewpoint is that the EGA Reference Model is the >> overarching model: >> - With specific/concrete stuff mapping to CIM >> - But some more abstract stuff do not map to CIM easily >> - There is some more abstract work in the SMIS space and this >> will end up at some point in DMTF schema >> - So the DMTF might be an eventual consumer for some of this work >> > > Tom will send a note to the list (to: Ellen S and Fred M) > on why the current separation of service/info model may > not be quite right. > > 4) Removal of container model from BES spec appendix (Ellen, 10 min) > > Ellen's email: >> The intent of this appendix is to provide the container model as an >> 'informational' appendix so it can be submitted to DMTF as concrete >> proposal for inclusion in the DMTF CIM and a context for why a container >> model is necessary. >> >> The inclusion of the model in the BES spec does not imply that OGSA must >> implement this CIM container model to implement BES; it is merely an >> abstraction for a general container model where BES can provide context >> for the need and implementation of a specific container model. If this >> point doesn't come across in the appendix text, I have no problem >> modifying the text. > > 5) Wrap up (10 min) > AOB > > <*NEXT CALL*> > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1 > > Oct. 5 (Thu): Security, secure channel profile review > Oct. 9 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap > Oct. 12 (Thu): <No call?> > Oct. 16 (Mon): Information/data modeling > Oct. 19 (Thu): Security, secure channel profile review > Oct. 23 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap > > <*ACTION ITEMS*> > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569?nav=1 > > > From Sept. 25 call. > AI-0925a: Hiro to setup wiki page with names of people who have > expressed interest in the security team > AI-092625b: Jem to pull definitions together and produce a new > merged first draft. > - Send a mail to the ogsa list about this work > - Set Oct. 9 as the target for the first Glossary draft > AI-0925c: Hiro to ask Alan Clark to ask EGA TC member who want to > contribute to join the OGSA list and this convergence work. - > Members may have changed but organizations have not > AI-0925d: Paul Strong to send EGA Glossary MS-Word file to Jem > Treadwell > AI-0925e: Hiro to talk with Andrew Grimshaw and Mark Morgan and > bring back a concrete proposal for the HPC Profile use > case as a convergence candidate. > AI-0925f: Hiro to talk with Ellen Stokes and add more items in DMTF > register in the context of this convergence work > AI-0925g: Tom will send a note to the list (to: Ellen S and Fred M) > on why the current separation of service/info model may > not be quite right. > > > From Sept. 21 call. > AI-0921b: Security members to discuss the BoF proposal(s) further > - For example, one outcome could be some standards > activity to mirror CAOPS activities and tie-in to OGSA > AI-0921c: Dave S (as Standards VP) to talk to the next > Security AD (when one is selected) about the Security Area > task list. > AI-0921d: Dave S to collect additional material in order to identify > security issues better. > - (AI-0921e is an issue instance) > AI-0921i: Dave S to provide an agenda for the next security call. > - Draft agenda items for Oct. 5th: > - What needs to be done to achieve simple interop > generally and to bootstrap more > - Profile to get authentication information from a > secure channel for authentication > - Profile for other methods to get authentication > informatin for authorization > > > From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F > AI-0915a: (A Savva, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to > collect workflow (BPEL) experience > AI-0915b: Ellen to check the status of the items on the > DMTF work register: report which have been done, and what > DMTF is doing for the rest. > AI-0915c: Ellen to propose new text to update the DMTF register > AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker > AI-0915e: Hiro to talk with OGF Editor to start an errata process > > > From Sept. 14 OGSA F2F > AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just > presented into the scenarios document > AI-0914f (Fred Brisard and Hiro Kishimoto): Fix the location of the > next F2F and inform the group vial the mailing list > > > From GGF18 EMS session (Sept. 13) > AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES. > AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities > (short paragraph for each, e.g. time constraint as JSDL > extension.) > AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this “terminate” > method of activity interface. > AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario. > AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM. > AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal on > "ActivityExecutionCandidate." > > > From Sept. 7 call > AI-0907b: Takuya will search for an external reliable source of > strong (or deprecated) ciphers to reference. > AI-0907c: Andreas will revise the explanatory text and send the new > version to Takuya. > AI-0907d: Takuya will update the documents and issue a final call > on the list. (Probably during GGF18.) > > > From Aug. 31 call > AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this > scenario. > AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch > Scenarios document > > > From Aug. 17 call > AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN, > Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and > start a discussion on how they handle data: > - how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled > - how transfers are modeled > - how files are advertised > - how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?) > (Due Oct. 9) > > > From Aug. 3 call > AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why > using ID/IDREF is not a good idea. > AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment > variables > > > From July 20 F2F > - EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to > contribute use cases. > - Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to > Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes. > ---- > Hiro Kishimoto > > > -- > ogsa-wg mailing list > ogsa-wg@ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg > >