14 Oct
2006
14 Oct
'06
1:10 p.m.
Hi all,
The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Oct. 16th
Monday from 5pm to 7pm (CDT).
The dial-in number for Monday;
US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or
+1 408 9616509 (San Jose)
UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London)
Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo)
PIN: 4371991
See more information:
- https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1
Screen share service will be provided.
URL: http://ogsa.glance.net
Session key: <1002>
See more explanation:
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584?nav=1
1) Early discussion (20 min)
Note taker assignment
Roll call
Telecon minutes approval (Oct. 2 & 9)
- https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13917
- https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13942
Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email)
Agenda bashing
2) Nov. F2F meeting update (Ellen Stokes and Fred Brisard, 20 min)
Next interim F2F will be on Nov. 9 and 10 in Tampa, FL
just before SC06.
Review logistics, agenda, and attendees.
- https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1620
3) New DMTF workregister review (Ellen Stokes and Tom Roney, 30 min)
After GGF and EGA merge, OGF need to agree new workregister
with DMTF sooner rather than later.
Tom Roney, OGF liaison to DMTF, is working on new draft.
- https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13947
From Tom's email:
> Please take a look with these notes in mind:
>
> - I added "Background" to the "Mission" heading
> Our (GGF/EGA) mission statements have
> been combined. Modify as you see fit.
> I did remove references to "enterprise"
> grids and "enterprise" grid computing,
> referring now to (simply) grids and
> grid computing.
>
> - Under the heading of "Alliance Scope"
> Please take a look at the third paragraph
> regarding the "Reference Model." Do we
> leave this? I think so.
>
> - After Figure 2
> We should include a corresponding link between
> the OGF's Semantic Grid Research Group and a
> group within the DMTF. What would that group be,
> and who would be the DMTF contact?
>
> - Under the "Milestones" heading
> I have done little with this other than
> to remove what has been accomplished wrt
> the last register for the GGF.
>
> Do we still want the second bullet, regarding
> mapping the work underway, etc.? I think this
> is important, but we (I) did nothing to move it
> forward, and it will take the effort of a good
> many minds.
>
> Please add to and/or modify this list of goals.
>
> - Under the "Contacts" heading
> I have updated the OGF side with respect
> to the once-GGF contacts, noting that the
> Security Area Directors are listed as
> Olle Mulmo and Dane Skow. I do not know
> if this is accurate, and do not see on the
> OGF website where this can be found.
Also, Ellen will bring OGSA-WG related update before the call.
> AI-0915b: Ellen to check the status of the items on the
> DMTF work register: report which have been done, and what
> DMTF is doing for the rest. (by Oct. 13)
> AI-0915c: Ellen to propose new text to update the DMTF register
> (by Oct. 13)
Obsolete GGF-DMTF workregister:
- http://www.ogf.org/documents/liaison/GGF-DMTFWorkRegister.pdf
Obsolete EGA-DMTF work resister
- http://www.dmtf.org/about/register/EGA-DMTFWorkRegister.pdf
4) Wrap up (10 min)
AOB
<*NEXT CALL*>
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1
Oct. 16 (Mon): DMTF Workregister
Oct. 19 (Thu): Information/data modeling,
Security, secure channel profile review
Oct. 23 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap
Oct. 26 (Thu): Information/data modeling, EMS scenarios
Oct. 30 (Mon): <TBD>
Nov. 2 (Thu): Security
Nov. 6 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap
Nov. 9 (Thu): F2F prep
<*ACTION ITEMS*>
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569?nav=1
> From Oct. 8 call.
AI-1009a: Review slide 6 again and clarify what the problem is
(Reference Model Design Team)
AI-1009b: Review the Reference Model 'Manage Job' in more
detail. Specifically look at it from the perspective of
an enterprise application (e.g., a 3-tier app) (Reference
Model Design Team)
AI-1009c: Hiro to ask Jay to provide his comments for Slide 6
- Perspective of submitter vs platform provider and the
hierarchical model connection
AI-1009d: Jem will produce a topic discussion list for the
converged glossary
> From Oct. 5 call.
AI-1005a: Alan Sill willing to take responsibility for pushing
the process for getting a charter ready (by Oct. 19)
AI-1005b: People to send Dave Snelling more information, ideas
for more security calls to complete coverage
(Since this does not have any specific owners, it will
be closed Oct. 19)
> From Sept. 28 call.
AI-0928a: Takuya will issue a final call on BSP-Core on the list.
> From Sept. 25 call.
AI-0925c: Hiro to ask Alan Clark to ask EGA TC member who want to
contribute to join the OGSA list and this convergence work. -
Members may have changed but organizations have not
AI-0925g: Tom will send a note to the list (to: Ellen S and Fred M)
on why the current separation of service/info model may
not be quite right.
> From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F
AI-0915a: (A Savva, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to
collect workflow (BPEL) experience
AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker
AI-0915e: Hiro to talk with OGF Editor to start an errata process
> From Aug. 17 call
AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN,
Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and
start a discussion on how they handle data:
- how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled
- how transfers are modeled
- how files are advertised
- how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?)
(Due Oct. 9)
> From Aug. 3 call
AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why
using ID/IDREF is not a good idea.
AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment
variables
> From July 20 F2F
- EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to
contribute use cases.
- Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to
Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes.
Postponed:
Until Oct. 13 call:
AI-0915b: Ellen to check the status of the items on the
DMTF work register: report which have been done, and what
DMTF is doing for the rest.
AI-0915c: Ellen to propose new text to update the DMTF register
Until next EMS call (Oct. 26):
AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just
presented into the scenarios document
AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES.
AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities
(short paragraph for each, e.g. time constraint as JSDL
extension.)
AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this “terminate”
method of activity interface.
AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario.
AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM.
AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal on
"ActivityExecutionCandidate."
AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this
scenario.
AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch
Scenarios document
AI-0921c: Dave S (as Standards VP) to talk to the next
Security AD (when one is selected) about the Security Area
task list.
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Hiro Kishimoto