One more point: I don't think this should be called the OGSA-BEM BOF or WG. As we've discussed on several occasions, things may be approved as part of OGSA when completed and widely adopted. We can't pre-approve things, or imply that we are pre-approving things, as the name OGSA-BEM does.

Will we see a revised charter? I want to feel that my comments are being taken into consideration, and I don't have that feeling at present.

Ian.

At 04:39 PM 3/7/2005 -0600, Ian Foster wrote:

Three comments:

a) It's important to give time for other people to present. E.g., I suspect Karl Czajkowski will want to present on our behalf. There will likely be others. People should be able to sign up ahead of the meeting and get a time allocation.

b) I don't see how we can require a priori that "the output of the OGSA-BEM will fit into the overall OGSA EMS architecture." I don't know what that means, and in any case, we need to see what people come up with.

c) It is important to say something in the BOF description as to what we expect the scope of "basic execution management service" to be. E.g., "focused on defining Web services interfaces for job submission, monitoring, and management."

Ian.

At 05:31 PM 3/7/2005 -0500, Andrew Grimshaw wrote:

The objective of the BOF is to form the OGSA Basic Execution Management Service Working Group (OGSA-BEM). The output of the OGSA-BEM will fit into the overall OGSA EMS architecture, as initially described in the OGSA V1 Document. It is expected that the OGSA EMS architecture will evolve over time and that evolution will eventually need to be incorporated. Such incorporation may not take place in this working group depending on whether OGSA-BEM completes before changes are made in the overall OGSA-EMS.

Proposed Agenda

Presentation of GGF IP Rules

Pass around sign-up sheet

Background on OGSA EMS

Basic Execution Management A Focus on Minimal Services

            Draft Service Containers description

Charter discussion

            Should charter be extended to include Actors?

            Should the charter be extended to include any form of agreements?

            Milestones

Scheduling of calls

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Ian Foster                    www.mcs.anl.gov/~foster Math & Computer Science Div. Dept of Computer Science Argonne National Laboratory   The University of Chicago    Argonne, IL 60439, U.S.A.     Chicago, IL 60637, U.S.A. Tel: 630 252 4619             Fax: 630 252 1997         Globus Alliance, www.globus.org

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Ian Foster www.mcs.anl.gov/~foster Math & Computer Science Div. Dept of Computer Science Argonne National Laboratory The University of Chicago Argonne, IL 60439, U.S.A. Chicago, IL 60637, U.S.A. Tel: 630 252 4619 Fax: 630 252 1997 Globus Alliance, www.globus.org