Hi Hiro Is it possible to schedule a discussion at OG19 (of the F2F if there is one). I will try and come along. Abdeslem -----Original Message----- From: Hiro Kishimoto [mailto:hiro.kishimoto@jp.fujitsu.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:12 PM To: Andreas Savva Cc: Djaoui, A (Abdeslem); ogsa-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] [update] OGSA Security Profile 1.0 - Secure Channel Hi Abdeslem and Andreas, Let's evaluate WS-Policy separate from BP. I guess OGSA can use this for future development. Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto Andreas Savva wrote:
Abdeslem,
I believe there is already an action on a few people within the group to look into ws-policy and report back. (This is in a slightly different context though.)
This security profile really has to get published; it's been cooking for too long.
Thanks Andreas
Djaoui, A (Abdeslem) wrote:
OK Andreas I didn't realise this is the final re-submission to the Editor. I agree it is too late for major edits.
However WS-Policy has reached last call working draft status and it is used by all current OASIS/W3C Web Services specifications and profiles (which are at an advanced state too). It is also implemented widely. As such and according to GFD.59 it would still qualify the profile for recommended profile status.
I think WS-Policy statements/Assertions should be within the scope of any new specification or profile not just BP. This is because as policy engines are becoming widespread, the meaning of a service description goes beyong WSDL but includes policy documents too.
May be this is the right time for the OGSA-WG to look into the potential uses of WS-Policy for its domain specific requirements and capabilities (e.g. Operational and deployment characteristics, QOS, ...).
Cheers
Abdeslem ////////
-----Original Message----- From: Andreas Savva [mailto:andreas.savva@jp.fujitsu.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:23 AM To: Djaoui, A (Abdeslem) Cc: Takuya Mori; ogsa-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] [update] OGSA Security Profile 1.0 - Secure Channel
Abdeslem,
Though WS-Policy is making its way through the standards process it is a bit too early to make any statements about it in this profile. (It would probably make the type of profile go down to informational if we did---according to GFD.59.)
Also I think it is too late in the process for this document to include substantially new content. This final call is for re-submission to the Editor for publication; not for public comment.
Finally the statements that I think you are after do not seem specific to this profile. They would presumably be more useful in a more basic OGSA profile, perhaps a future version of the OGSA (WSRF) BP or some similar basic profile.
Just my 2 yen. -- Andreas
Djaoui, A (Abdeslem) wrote:
Takuya,
I think a short section on WS-Policy needs to be added before publishing (Sorry for bring this at this late time but I am just catching up with GGF work after a long distraction). This is to allow a service to advertise if it supports and/or requires the use of the profile.
Let me know if it isn't too late.
Abdeslem DJAOUI /////////////////////
-----Or From: ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org]On Behalf Of Takuya Mori Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:07 AM To: ogsa-wg@ogf.org Subject: [ogsa-wg] [update] OGSA Security Profile 1.0 - Secure Channel
Dear All,
I have updated the SP - SC document as we discussed in the Nov 27 conference call, and I think it's ready for FINAL CALL.
Please have a look through the document. Any comments are welcomed.
The updated version of the profile is available on GridForge. OGSA Security Profile 1.0 - Secure Channel: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.ogsa-wg/d...
Changes: - accepted all the change trackers - updated the acknowledgement section - updated the extensibility points since those of the extended profile had been updated - added a sentence on the extensibility points E009 and E011 - updated Table 6 - a number of changes, mainly gramatical errors
Best regards, Takuya
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