13 Dec
2006
13 Dec
'06
8:58 a.m.
Hi all, Ellen has uploaded revised container model document and its diagram to GridForge. Please have a look before the call on Thursday. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14004 https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14004 >> AI.11.09.pm-a: Ellen and Tom to write up a "Information Model >> profile document: BES Container" >> (EJS) Meeting with Tom Maguire on this item Tues 12/12. Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto Hiro Kishimoto wrote: > Hi all, > > The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Dec. 14th > Thursday from 7am - 9am (CST). > > ** attention: new international number ** > > Dial-in numbers for Thursday: > Free: +1-888-452-0308 > Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 > PIN: 71815 > See more information: > - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 > > Screen share service will be provided. > URL: http://ogsa.glance.net > Session key: 1214 > See more explanation: > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 > > 1) Early discussion (20 min) > Note taker assignment > Roll call > Telecon minutes approval (Dec. 11) > - http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14057 > Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email) > Agenda bashing > > 2) Information/data modeling (Ellen and Tom, 40 min) > >> > From Nov. 9 am F2F. >> AI-1109am-a: Ellen and Tom will review the error code/faults issue >> further with a view to put a proposal forward to DMTF. >> (EJS) I had short discussion with DMTF person on this and will >> close with Tom Maguire on this when I meet with Tom on Tues 12/12. >> >> > From Nov. 9 pm F2F. >> AI.11.09.pm-a: Ellen and Tom to write up a "Information Model >> profile document: BES Container" >> (EJS) Meeting with Tom Maguire on this item Tues 12/12. >> >> > From Nov. 10 am F2F >> AI-1110am-a: Ellen to look into WS-Policy and relationships to >> what has been defined so far >> Tom to Look at how to avoid overlap with WS-Policy >> group >> (EJS) Meeting with Tom Maguire on this item Tues 12/12. > > 3) OGSA security discussion (Alan Sill and Andrew Grimshaw, 30 min) > > Very simple one-to-one, OGSA Basic Security Authentication > Profile proposal. > > OGSA-AuthN-WG charter proposal. > http://www.ggf.org/gf/group_info/charter.php?review&group=OGSA-AuthN-WG > > 4) OGSA workflow discussion (Andrew, 30 min) > > Minutes from Nov. 30th call >> - Mark runs the group through the slides "Workflow thoughts" >> provided by Andrew, Steve and Mark >> - OGSA could either pick a specific Workflow language, and alienate >> everybody else >> - Alternatively, OGSA could pick none and create a new one, and also >> alienate everybody else >> - Orchestration and workflow must be separated >> - OGF is best served with simplicity >> - The proposal is as follows >> -- stay away from language and API specification >> -- Tightly scope WFDL (Workflow Definition Language) >> -- Ensure reasonable mappings from existing systems into WFDL >> -- Toos support >> -- Reuse as much existing as possible >> - WFDL is XML based and describes directed graphs >> - Nodes are WFDL, ord JSDL >> - Nodes have labelled input and output >> - Mark walks the group along a sample WFDL instance document >> - Jay: This example is a dataflow graph, not a workflow graph >> -- Mark: Example 2 demonstrates other kinds of dependencies than >> data dependencies >> - Jay: Dependencies should be expressed as resources produced and >> resources consumed >> - The group discusses Jays suggestion >> - Jay points out that the Workflow effort should be very carefully >> evaluated against the current other efforts related to JSDL >> - Chris: Defining (yet another) WF language is probably a bad idea >> -- This would, among others, add delay >> -- Andrew: As pointed out on the slides earlier, picking a >> particular WF language or creating one is a matter of "choose your >> poison". >> -- Fabio: We probably should focus first on listing the requirements >> the languuage should meet >> -- Jay: I believe it is possible to combine this workflow effort >> with current efforts for JSDL and Information modelling >> - The group discusses possible further steps from here on >> - Andrew: After this first initial investigation, does OGSA think that >> the WF issue is important enough to set forth a design team now, or >> postpone for >> the moment >> - Andrew proposes to set up a separate phone connference with a >> specific WF agenda >> -- Jav and Michel support the idea >> - The group discusses the appointment for the next WF call >> - Jay proposes to use OGSA's Gridforge wiki to collect people's >> requirements, dependencies, favourite existing WF solutions, etc. >> together to get an overview >> on what's necessary and what's not. >> -- The group reaches rough consensus to picck up this idea > > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14042 > > 4) Wrap up (10 min) > AOB > > <*NEXT CALL*> > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 > > Dec. 18 (Mon) EGA reference model(Hiro Kishimoto and Paul Strong) > Roadmap document (Chris Jordan) > Jan. 11 (Thu) Information/data modeling (Ellen and Fred) > OGSA workflow (Andrew Grimshaw) > Jan. 15 (Mon) EGA reference model(Hiro Kishimoto and Paul Strong) > DMTF document review (Ellen Stokes) > Jan. 18 (Thu) OGSA security (Alan Sill and Andrew Grimshaw) > OGSA workflow (Andrew Grimshaw) > Jan. 22 (Mon) EGA reference model(Hiro Kishimoto and Paul Strong) > Roadmap document (Chris Jordan) > Jan. 25 (Thu) OGF19 prep (Tom and Hiro) > > > <*ACTION ITEMS*> > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569 > > > From Dec. 11 call > AI-1211a: Hiro to check with Takuya for any last minute changes and > submit "BP - Secure Channel" for publication > AI-1211b: Hiro will arrange for the management software demo session > not to conflict with any OGSA session at OGF19 > > > From Nov. 30 call > AI-11.30a: Michel to talk with Tom and Ellen on how to go about > documenting his current proof of concept in the Info > model Arch doc. > > > From Nov. 9 pm F2F. > AI.11.09.pm-a: Ellen and Tom to write up a "Information Model > profile document: BES Container" > AI.11.09.pm-c: Andrew to produce a document drafting the definition > of QoS > AI.11.09.pm-d: Andrew to contact the HPCP WG regarding future > involvement to create profile(s) on, e.g. BES, JSDL > etc. > > > From Oct. 30 call. > AI-1030a: Ellen will contact the DAIS-WG chairs and request they > arrange a review DSP0225 > > > From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F > AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker > > > From Aug. 17 call > AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN, > Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and > start a discussion on how they handle data: > - how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled > - how transfers are modeled > - how files are advertised > - how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?) > (Due Oct. 9) > > > From July 20 F2F > - EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to > contribute use cases. > - Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to > Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes. > > Postponed: > Until next reference model call (Dec. 11th): > AI-1023c: Tom volunteered to review Hiro's HPC Cluster use case > slides and make appropriate changes to indicate where the > CIM Profile would fit in and how it would link into the > Reference Model. > AI-1023d: Paul will add more items to list on slide 6 of the HPC > Cluster use case > AI-1023g: Hiro will look at other parts of slide 5 and identify > further possible refinements of this use case. > ---- > Hiro Kishimoto > >