that would be great
At 11:26 AM 4/20/2006 -0700, Christopher Smith wrote:
And the SAGA
model can be used (maybe with some refinement) to model all three of ESI,
BES and SAGA state diagrams...
You can probably guess which model I would vote for. :-)
-- Chris
On 20/4/06 11:11, "Ian Foster" <foster@mcs.anl.gov>
wrote:
- It's certainly very desirable that we end up with a single common
model!
- We have the ESI model, that reflects experience in GRAM and Unicore;
the BES model; and the SAGA model.
- Ian.
- At 11:08 AM 4/20/2006 -0700, Christopher Smith wrote:
- And I would encourage BES to pick up this model as well. I was going
to make
- this comment on the BES document, if it ever would show up in
public
- comment.
- -- Chris
- On 20/4/06 08:15, "Andre Merzky" <andre@merzky.net>
wrote:
- > Quoting [Ian Foster] (Apr 20 2006):
- >>
- >> Chris:
- >> I don't understand why SAGA is proceeding with a job state
modeling effort
- >> independent of BES. Can you explain?
- >> Ian.
- >
- > Ah, but we don't :-) SAGA has a very simple state
model
- > (new, running, done, failed, unknown). However, the
states
- > have 'substates', which can be queried, and expose the
- > complete BES state model.
- >
- > The simple model above only exposes those states which can
- > be changed with SAGA calls. As saga calls get added,
e.g.
- > for hold, more stated might get exposed on that level.
- >
- > Please have a look at
- >
http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/png00005.png
- > I hope that state diagram makes that clearer. I am not
sure
- > if it is in sync with the current BES states.
- >
- > Another post to exactly that topic is at
- >
http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/msg00131.html
- >
- > Cheers, Andre.
- >
- >
- >
- >> At 07:18 AM 4/20/2006 -0700, Christopher Smith wrote:
- >>
- >> Hi all,
- >> Per Marvin's comments
...
- >> Here is a pointer to the
proposal for modelling job states that I made
- >> to
- >> the SAGA group last
February.
- >>
- >>
[1]http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/msg00107.htm
- >> l
- >> -- Chris
- >>
- >>
_______________________________________________________________
- >> Ian Foster, Director,
Computation Institute
- >> Argonne National Laboratory &
University of Chicago
- >> Argonne: MCS/221, 9700 S. Cass Ave,
Argonne, IL 60439
- >> Chicago: Rm 405, 5640 S. Ellis Ave,
Chicago, IL 60637
- >> Tel: +1 630 252 4619. Web:
[2]www.ci.uchicago.edu.
- >> Globus
Alliance: [3]www.globus.org.
- >>
- >> References
- >>
- >> 1.
- >>
http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/msg00107.html
- >> 2.
http://www.ci.uchicago.edu/
- >> 3.
http://www.globus.org/
- >
- >
_______________________________________________________________
Ian Foster, Director,
Computation Institute
Argonne National Laboratory & University of Chicago
Argonne: MCS/221, 9700 S. Cass Ave, Argonne, IL 60439
Chicago: Rm 405, 5640 S. Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL 60637
Tel: +1 630 252 4619. Web:
www.ci.uchicago.edu
<http://www.ci.uchicago.edu/> .
Globus Alliance: www.globus.org <http://www.globus.org/> .
_______________________________________________________________
Ian Foster, Director, Computation Institute
Argonne National Laboratory & University of Chicago
Argonne: MCS/221, 9700 S. Cass Ave, Argonne, IL 60439
Chicago: Rm 405, 5640 S. Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL 60637
Tel: +1 630 252 4619. Web: www.ci.uchicago.edu.
Globus Alliance: www.globus.org.