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Agenda for May 12 call
by Andrew Grimshaw 09 May '05

09 May '05

All, Attached are the (short) minutes from the last call. Note: The call-in information has changed!!! Toll-free dial-in: 1-877-422-0036 Toll/International dial-in: 1-314-655-1412 Tie-line dial-in: 422-0036 Participant passcode: 496684 Proposed Agenda: Agenda bashing Continue agreement discussion 20 - minutes Discussion of the question of "how basic is basic?" Steven asked a good question on the call two weeks ago. To paraphrase, is for example, file staging out of scope - because file staging is itself a service that would be invoked and managed by a "job manager". I'll give a more precise definition on the call. Note this is the last call before the F2F on Sunday in London. Steven, do we have a local yet? Andrew

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WS-Naming
by Andrew Grimshaw 09 May '05

09 May '05

All, After a bit of a delay we are ready to start discussions on naming. A few things. First, finding a time that does not collide with other OGSA/GGF calls was a challenge. We decided on Mondays at 11 AM eastern. Dial in information: Toll-free dial-in: 1-877-422-0036 Toll/International dial-in: 1-314-655-1412 Tie-line dial-in: 422-0036 Participant passcode: 496684 The first call will be on Monday, May 16. The proposed agenda is: Charter - specifically scope and timing of documents. Suitability of existing standards and systems to fill the requirements. Specifically, WS-Addressing by itself, WS-Discovery, and Handle. Note to supporters of Handle. The license on the web site is very restrictive. I personally feel it is unacceptable as it stands. Evidence that a different license model is now in use is needed to continue examining Handle in my view. The May 23 call will not take place. Instead interested parties will caucus at the OGSA F2F meeting in London. Second, I am attaching three documents. The strawman draft WS-Name document that we presented in Korea, the naming requirements document draft that the naming design team in OGSA developed, and a revised charter. Andrew Grimshaw

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Roadmap document v7 uploaded
by Treadwell, Jem 09 May '05

09 May '05

Hi, I just uploaded version 7 of the Roadmap document - you can find it at http://tinyurl.com/8p6mj. In this version I created the major sections we'll need to complete, including the data I received from Dave B and Andrew, and accepted all changes so that we have a clean starting point (there were no significant changes other than insertion of these sections). If you're providing roadmap data, please use the latest version of the document as your base - you can cut/paste your section or send the whole document for merging. Thanks! - Jem -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Treadwell, Jem Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 6:18 PM To: ogsa-wg Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] RE: Proposed agenda for Wed May 4th call (need schedule input!) Or maybe not... Only Mark Morgan, Mike Behrens and I were on the call by 6:10, so no meeting was held, and no minutes will be posted :0) I received input from Dave Berry and Allen Luniewski for the Data Architecture doc, which I'll merge into the Roadmap doc, along with anything else I receive. See you on Monday... - Jem -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Treadwell, Jem Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 5:49 PM To: ogsa-wg Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] RE: Proposed agenda for Wed May 4th call (need schedule input!) Hi, I received some input, so we'll go ahead with the call. I'll have a glance session running at ogsa.glance.net, with a session-id of 0504. - Jem -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Treadwell, Jem Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:16 PM To: ogsa-wg Subject: [ogsa-wg] RE: Proposed agenda for Wed May 4th call (need schedule input!) Hi, I haven't received any schedule input for the roadmap. If anybody is planning to have any to discuss at today's meeting can you please let me know, even if you don't have it ready yet? If there's no roadmap input to discuss, and if nobody has any other business for the agenda, we won't have a meeting tonight. If that's the case I'll send a follow-up message by 5:45 pm US Eastern time. Thanks, - Jem -----Original Message----- From: Treadwell, Jem Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:58 AM To: 'ogsa-wg' Subject: Proposed agenda for Wed May 4th call (need schedule input!) Hi, Wednesday's call is intended for discussion of schedule information for the roadmap document. Hiro sent a series of requests to working group and design team leads last week, asking for input for their sections based on the template we reviewed last week. For those who received Hiro's mail: If you're able to provide input for this week's meeting, please try to send it to me in time for me to merge it into the Roadmap doc, so that we can review a single document. If you can't do that, we can still review your input as a separate document, and I can merge it later, but please try to get it to me before the meeting. Thanks! Below is the proposed agenda for the meeting. - Jem The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Wednesday May 4th from 5pm to 7pm (CDT). Dial-in numbers for Wednesday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 PIN: 71815 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 0504 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval Agenda bashing 2) OGSA roadmap document review (60 min) Jem will upload a new version of the document with schedule info before the call (if schedule info has been provided). Tracker for the roadmap: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&at id=789 3) Wrap up (10 min) AOB See telecon schedule until May F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule ---- Jem Treadwell

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RM teleconf ** more info **
by Fred Maciel 09 May '05

09 May '05

Hi again, I just scheduled screen sharing for the teleconference. Let's give it a try. The information below should suffice. Regards, Fred Maciel. ----------------------------- Topic: OGSA RM teleconf Date: Monday, May 9, 2005 Time: 11:00 am, Pacific Daylight Time (GMT -07:00, San Jose) Meeting number: 731 075 248 Meeting password: ogsa-rm Please click the following link to see more information about the meeting, including its agenda, or to join the meeting. <https://btconferencing.webex.com/btconferencing/j.php?ED=86316762&UID=28389 037>

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OGSA-D telcon agenda for May 11 - Storage Management
by Dave Berry 07 May '05

07 May '05

Dear all, Here are the planned topics for upcoming telcons: May 11 - Data storage May 18 - Document review & plan for F2F May 25 - no call? May 26 - F2F, Imperial College London This week's telcon will be on Wednesday (11th May), at the usual time of 8:00am PDT / 11:00am EDT / 4:00pm BST / 5:00pm CEST. PIN for all calls: 632 065 UK Dial In: 0845 245 0224 US Dial In: 1866 838 0046 International Dial In: +44 1452 542309 Here is a provisional agenda for this week. 1) Early discussion (5 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Minutes approval (attached, http://tinyurl.com/d8fvd) Agenda bashing 2) Action report (5 min) - Dave to try to arrange data transfer discussion. - Allen to mail Steve about adding Allen and Dave as GridForge admins [Done] - Mario to further update the access section. - Dave to approach transaction RG re GGF session? 3) WG status (5 min) 4) F2F update (5 min) 5) Technical content (35 min) - Storage Management 6) Wrap up (5 min) AOB DONM Dave Berry Research Manager, National e-Science Centre 15 South College St., Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 6514039

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RM comparison proposal
by Fred Maciel 07 May '05

07 May '05

Hi, Here is a *proposal* for the *format* of the comparison, still without meaningful content. Let's discuss it on the teleconference on Monday. Regards, Fred Maciel Hitachi America R&D

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RM design team -- teleconf minutes and pointers to docs
by Fred Maciel 06 May '05

06 May '05

Hi, First of all, here are the minutes of the teleconference (attached file). BTW, our next teleconference will be next week, at the same time (Tuesday, 11AM PDT). I'll post a reminder on Monday. Here is a list of pointers on the specs that we are going to analyze: - GLUE 1.1: the schemas are in http://www.cnaf.infn.it/~sergio/datatag/glue/index.htm We'll work on the part under the " Computing (FINAL)" link. I also found a good presentation on GLUE 1.1 today. It also metions a certain CRM-WG... :-) http://www.dma.unina.it/~murli/SummerSchool/presentations/InformationModeli… - GLUE 1.2: the development can be followed in the mailing list archives -- see the "Mailing list (archive) " link in the first URL above. The latest draft can be found under: http://www.hicb.org/pipermail/glue-schema/2005/frm00057.html - JSIM: the spec (GFD-I.028) is at: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ggf-editor/document/GFD.28/en/1 There is also a UML diagram, which does not match the spec though: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/cgs-wg/document/JSIM_UML/en/1 - CIM: the schemas are under: http://www.dmtf.org/standards/cim JSIM is in 2.9.1 preliminary. Try 2.9.0 to get also UML files. - JSDL: the latest snapshot is at: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/jsdl-wg/document/draft-ggf-jsdl-spec/e… There's a nice introduction at: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/jsdl-wg/document/JSDL-Introduction/en/ Did I forget anything? Regards, Fred Maciel.

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GGF14 joint session proposals
by Fred Maciel 06 May '05

06 May '05

Hi, (1) The WSDM TC is proposing a joint session with the OGSA-WG in GGF14. Accepted? Apart from that, WSDM will have many activities in GGF14: - A plenary kind of session (29th, 2:00p - 3:30p) in which they will demo WSDM - A "deep dive" session to do a more in-depth technical explanation of the spec - A joint session with the CDDLM-WG, which is already using WSDM in its specs - A face-to-face meeting on the 30th (full-day). (2) The DMTF UCWG (Utility Computing WG) would like to have a joint session with the OGSA-WG. The target is the OGSA-WG as a whole, but especially EM. To give some context, when they draw the diagram of the context they are in, they end up with something like the EM diagram. A joint meeting would be great to align the two. (BTW, the EGA is also requesting a joint session, but I hear that Andrew is co-ordinating that one). (3) I'll probably book a couple of sessions as work sessions for the RM design team to work on models, which might require some coordination with OGSA-BES. More on that later. Regards, Fred Maciel.

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05 May '05

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RE: [ogsa-wg] RE: Proposed agenda for Wed May 4th call (need schedule input!)
by Treadwell, Jem 04 May '05

04 May '05

Or maybe not... Only Mark Morgan, Mike Behrens and I were on the call by 6:10, so no meeting was held, and no minutes will be posted :0) I received input from Dave Berry and Allen Luniewski for the Data Architecture doc, which I'll merge into the Roadmap doc, along with anything else I receive. See you on Monday... - Jem -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Treadwell, Jem Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 5:49 PM To: ogsa-wg Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] RE: Proposed agenda for Wed May 4th call (need schedule input!) Hi, I received some input, so we'll go ahead with the call. I'll have a glance session running at ogsa.glance.net, with a session-id of 0504. - Jem -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Treadwell, Jem Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:16 PM To: ogsa-wg Subject: [ogsa-wg] RE: Proposed agenda for Wed May 4th call (need schedule input!) Hi, I haven't received any schedule input for the roadmap. If anybody is planning to have any to discuss at today's meeting can you please let me know, even if you don't have it ready yet? If there's no roadmap input to discuss, and if nobody has any other business for the agenda, we won't have a meeting tonight. If that's the case I'll send a follow-up message by 5:45 pm US Eastern time. Thanks, - Jem -----Original Message----- From: Treadwell, Jem Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:58 AM To: 'ogsa-wg' Subject: Proposed agenda for Wed May 4th call (need schedule input!) Hi, Wednesday's call is intended for discussion of schedule information for the roadmap document. Hiro sent a series of requests to working group and design team leads last week, asking for input for their sections based on the template we reviewed last week. For those who received Hiro's mail: If you're able to provide input for this week's meeting, please try to send it to me in time for me to merge it into the Roadmap doc, so that we can review a single document. If you can't do that, we can still review your input as a separate document, and I can merge it later, but please try to get it to me before the meeting. Thanks! Below is the proposed agenda for the meeting. - Jem The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Wednesday May 4th from 5pm to 7pm (CDT). Dial-in numbers for Wednesday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 PIN: 71815 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 0504 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval Agenda bashing 2) OGSA roadmap document review (60 min) Jem will upload a new version of the document with schedule info before the call (if schedule info has been provided). Tracker for the roadmap: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&at id=789 3) Wrap up (10 min) AOB See telecon schedule until May F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule ---- Jem Treadwell

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