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Teleconference minutes - 6 March 2006
by Andreas Savva 07 Mar '06

07 Mar '06

Attached. https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20060306/en/1 (Note that April 4-7 at the Bay area was chosen again for the April F2F.) -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd Teleconference minutes - 6 March 2006 ===================================== * Participants Michael Behrens (R2AD, LLC) Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu) Fred Maciel (Hitachi) Tom Maguire (EMC) Andreas Savva (Fujitsu) Ellen Stokes (IBM) Jem Treadwell (HP) Jay Unger (IBM) Peter Ziu (Northrop Grumman) Minutes: Andreas Savva * Summary of Actions Action: Candidate hosts should check availability and facilities for F2F and report back on Wednesday's call Action: Jem will check whether there are any HP branding conditions (or formatting, logos, etc) to the webcast. Action: Hiro to add webcast preparation to the F2F agenda Action: Tom to do a final call for the WSRF BP on the list * Minutes of February 27 approved with no changes * OGSA-HPC design team update (as reported by Hiro) Marvin will be selecting a time slot for the design team teleconferences. Most of the discussion should be done on the mailing list, however. Marvin will join the April F2F by phone and may attend in person if the meeting is held on the West coast. * OGSA 1.5 (Arch and Glossary) status update Final call issued on the list. Deadline is Wednesday's teleconference in order to allow for any last minute changes and submission by the end of the week. * April F2F update Reviewed the survey results and weighted the merits and de-merits of various venues and dates. Re-selected April 4-7 at west coast (Bay Area) as the first choice. Possible hosts: - Hitachi America (Fred to check network connectivity) - IBM (at a choice of location in the Bay area) Action: Candidate hosts should check availability and facilities for F2F and report back on Wednesday's call * Webcast discussion Jem reported that HP can provide the facilities to do an OGSA webcast, including recording and archiving for later use. Features also include polls during the webcast, online chat, keeping track of number of people registering, attendind, how long they attended, etc. There are 3-4 available slots (2 hours long but can use a portion only) and depending on the date between 100-200 can participate. Participants dial in. A moderator controls the session, while people who login as presenters can control the slides. Slides must be static and should be sent in advance. Even if that was not the case it would be good to prepare and have the slides ready 1 week in advance. When scheduled HP will publicise it to other companies. It therefore has the potential to attract people that OGSA can not typically reach. So good preparation is needed. Considering the above, a date late in April is better to allow more time to prepare. The webcast preparation should also be added to the F2F agenda. Action: Jem will check whether there are any HP branding conditions (or formatting, logos, etc) to the webcast. Action: Hiro to add webcast preparation to the F2F agenda * WSRF BP status update Tom has done the edits necessary to bring the BP up to date with the OASIS Standard versions of WSRF. Action: Tom to do a final call for the WSRF BP on the list * Other business Jem has updated the front page of the OGSA-WG gridforge site with text taken from the charter. A table of already published documents may also be added. There was a discussion on whether it is worth waiting for the new version of gridforge or not. Hiro mentioned that the gridforge site may be upgraded before or at GGF17. The new site will also include a wiki. It is not clear yet whether some of the documents, e.g., glossary, should be made into wikis. (Do we want short, precise definitions as in the current document or more explanation, e.g., a page for each term?) * Wednesday call - Review information modeling guidelines (Fred) - Webcast update (Jem)

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April interim F2F meeting survay
by Hiro Kishimoto 07 Mar '06

07 Mar '06

Hi all, At this Monday call, I was given home work assignment to lunch another Zoomerang survey for asking members' availability. Please take a time to answer simple questions at: http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?p=WEB2253FR68F35 We will review and decide date/location at next Monday call. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto From Monday meeting minutes; > The location and dates are still unconfirmed. Agreed to a survey and > to check the results at the next Monday call. > > Action: Hiro to do a survey for the F2F location and dates. > - Simple format: date and location pairs and a yes/no choice > - 3 locations: East coast, West coast, UK (London) > - 2 dates: April 4-7 or April 10-11 (avoid Good Friday) > * April F2F agenda > > Hiro sent out a proposed agenda for the April F2F. > - (Note that the days of the week in the proposal are tentative.) > > Confirmed again that Information model and EMS (including CDDLM > discussions) are the main topics. > - CDDLM joint discussion is on the list. Dejan may not be able to > participate if the meeting is in the UK but there are other CDDLM > people based in the UK. > > OGSA-HPC: Marvin has said that he cannot make the week of April 3rd > in person. Hiro is contacting Marvin to check if he can lead by > phone, or whether someone else (Marty) can lead in person. > > Information services: no person leading this work within OGSA-WG > at the moment. (It is also identified as a 'hole' in the MS > paper.) > > Security: Frank has a clash for both the weeks of April 3rd and > April 10th. Takuya can lead the session and is talking with Frank > on work items.

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GridForge test wiki page
by Hiro Kishimoto 06 Mar '06

06 Mar '06

Hi all, Just FYI GridForge will have wiki feature around (or at) GGF17! SCRM-WG is using this for their landscape document development. http://testforge.ggf.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.scrm-wg/wiki/HomePage Username and password are different from ones for current GridForge. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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CFP: Special Session on "Service Level Agreements" at HPCC-06
by Benno Overeinder 06 Mar '06

06 Mar '06

Please accept our apologies for cross-posting. ********************************************************************** Call for Papers: Special Session on "Service Level Agreements" at HPCC-06 In distributed environments, applications often make use of pre-defined resources (and services) defined statically at the start of application execution. However, such resources may either not be appropriate or available every time execution is requested -- therefore requiring the use of a registry service to discover resources dynamically. It is also possible that resources may be owned by institutions/individuals within another administrative domain -- outside the direct control of the application manager. It is therefore necessary to make use of Service Level Agreements (SLAs) to provide the interface between application users making demands on resources, and resource providers determining what should be made available for external use. An SLA may define: (i) requirements that such an application would place on resources (and services) owned by another third party; (ii) check whether these requirements have been met during use. The complexity of an SLA can vary from a static description of resource names (specified in terms of IP addresses) to complex constraints defined as functions that can be evaluated at deployment time. The aim of this special session is to bring together researchers in high performance computing, networking infrastructure and application sciences to demonstrate how SLAs may be defined, managed, updated and used. The following topics provide some guidance on content appropriate for this special session: * Description techniques for SLAs * Static vs. dynamic SLAs * Validation techniques for SLA parameters * Matchmaking approaches for SLA comparisons * Discovering resources based on SLA descriptions * Comparison of SLA and policy descriptions * Penalty clauses for SLAs + legal issues * Managing user expectations via SLAs * SLA descriptions and Quality of Service * Multi-party SLAs * Aggregating multiple SLAs * SLAs in Virtual Organizations (both multi-party and multiple SLAs) * Negotiating SLAs dynamically * SLA-based co-scheduling and resource reservation * SLAs and Registry Services * SLA-based trust management SUBMISSION GUIDELINES Submissions must include an abstract, five to ten keywords, the e-mail address of the corresponding author and should not exceed ten pages including tables and figures. All paper submissions must already be formatted according to the guidelines for Lecture Notes in Computer Science (LNCS) and represent unpublished and original work. Manuscripts must be submitted in PDF format, usage of LaTeX as a document preparation system is strongly encouraged. Submission of a paper should be regarded as an undertaking that, should the paper be accepted, at least one of the authors will register for the conference and present the work. Submissions to HPCC-06 will be conducted electronically on the conference website. IMPORTANT DATES Paper submission: March 13, 2006 Acceptance notification: May 29, 2006 Camera ready version: June 26, 2006 Conference: September 13-15, 2006 PUBLICATION The accepted papers will be published in proceedings of the HPCC-06 conference by Springer's Lecture Note in Computer Science (LNCS). SPECIAL SESSION WEB SITE http://www.cs.vu.nl/~bjo/sla/sla-cfp.html CONFERENCE WEB SITE http://hpcc06.lrr.in.tum.de/ http://www.hpcc-conference.org/2006/ -- Benno Overeinder IIDS Group, Section Computer Systems, voice: (+31) 20 598 7634 Department of Computer Science, Faculty fax: (+31) 20 598 7653 of Sciences, Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam e-mail: bjo(a)cs.vu.nl Boelelaan 1081a, NL-1081 HV Amsterdam

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Proposed agenda for March 6th call
by Hiro Kishimoto 06 Mar '06

06 Mar '06

Hi all, The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on March 6th Monday from 4pm to 6pm (CST). The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 0306 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (Feb. 27) https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20060227/en/1 OGSA-HPC design team status update (if available) Agenda bashing 2) Document status (20 min) OGSA WSRF BP 1.0 status (Tom) OGSA 1.5 status (Andreas) 3) April F2F meeting schedule (30 min) We will decide date and location at this call. If you don't answer zoomerang survey yet, please take a time to answer simple questions *NOW* : http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?p=WEB2253FR68F35 F2F session proposal; https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/200604F2F_session Survey result as of Today (14 answers). https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/200604_Survey 4) OGSA Webcast (30 min) Jem and HP are kind enough to offer Webcast facility for OGSA-WG. These are our current options: * 4/11/2006 12:30 PM - 2:30 PM Eastern * 4/19/2006 11:30 AM - 1:30 PM Eastern * 4/26/2006 1:30 PM - 3:30 PM Eastern The timing of these are good, as we can either work on something at the f2f or even, if the f2f is the week of 4/10, do it *from* the f2f - provided we had good phone facilities. 5) Wrap up (10 min) AOB <NEXT CALL> March 8 (Wed): Information Model, Fred's guideline review March 13 (Mon): EMS scenarios, Steven's scenarios review March 15 (Wed): CDDLM-WG joint call (Dejan and Steven) March 20 (Mon): OGSA-HPC profile (Marvin) March 22 (Wed): Security Architecture (Takuya and Frank) Telecon schedule: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule/ -- Hiro Kishimoto

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OGSA wikipedia entry
by Treadwell, Jem 03 Mar '06

03 Mar '06

Hi, Andreas and I have had a long-standing action to update the OGSA entry in wikipedia, and I've recently completed a series of updates to it, to bring it into line with our documents. You can see the history of the changes - basically, the first two and last two paragraphs were there when I started, but I've modified them significantly, and the bit in the middle comes from the Roadmap and Architecture documents. My goal was to provide a brief outline, but let the documents provide the detail, so that it can be updated easily as the documents progress. I'm not looking for comments: if you think something needs changing, it's a wiki, so just go ahead and change it. I have a watch on it and will try to keep it up to date if nobody else gets there first, but I'm *not* claiming ownership, in any sense of the word. :0) And on a closely related topic, I notice there's a recently-added CDDLM entry (also nice and brief). - Jem ________________________________ Jem Treadwell Hewlett-Packard Company 6000 Irwin Road Mount Laurel, NJ 08054 Phone: 856-638-6021 Fax: 856-638-6190 E-mail: Jem.Treadwell(a)hp.com <mailto:Jem.Treadwell@hp.com>

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April F2F meeting session proposal
by Hiro Kishimoto 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

Hi all, Please find proposed April F2F meeting sessions attached. It is also uploaded to GridForge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/200604F2F_session > * April F2F agenda > > Hiro sent out a proposed agenda for the April F2F. > - (Note that the days of the week in the proposal are tentative.) > > Confirmed again that Information model and EMS (including CDDLM > discussions) are the main topics. > - CDDLM joint discussion is on the list. Dejan may not be able to > participate if the meeting is in the UK but there are other CDDLM > people based in the UK. > > OGSA-HPC: Marvin has said that he cannot make the week of April 3rd > in person. Hiro is contacting Marvin to check if he can lead by > phone, or whether someone else (Marty) can lead in person. > > Information services: no person leading this work within OGSA-WG > at the moment. (It is also identified as a 'hole' in the MS > paper.) > > Security: Frank has a clash for both the weeks of April 3rd and > April 10th. Takuya can lead the session and is talking with Frank > on work items. > > The location and dates are still unconfirmed. Agreed to a survey and > to check the results at the next Monday call. > > Action: Hiro to do a survey for the F2F location and dates. > - Simple format: date and location pairs and a yes/no choice > - 3 locations: East coast, West coast, UK (London) > - 2 dates: April 4-7 or April 10-11 (avoid Good Friday) -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Proposed agenda for Feb. 27 call
by Hiro Kishimoto 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

Hi all, ** MONDAY TELECONFERENCE DIAL-IN HAS CHANGED FROM THIS WEEK ** The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Feb. 27 Monday from 4pm to 6pm (CST). The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 0227 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (Feb. 22) https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20060222/en/1 Agenda bashing 2) Document status (20 min) OGSA WSRF BP 1.0 status (Tom) OGSA 1.5 status (Andreas) 3) April F2F meeting discussion (30 min) Decide the main topics for the April F2F agenda. Attached is the proposed topics. > The week of April 3 also needs re-confirmation since some people > have said they may not be able to make it. 4) Weekly telecon schedule up until GGF17 (20 min) 5) Wrap up (10 min) AOB Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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No OGSA-WG call on this Wednesday (March 1st)
by Hiro Kishimoto 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

Hi all, We agreed to review OGSA WSRF BP 1.0 re-submission status on this Wednesday but I have not yet talk to Tom. Thus I propose to have NO call on this Wednesday. Next OGSA-WG call will be Monday March 6th. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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RE: [ogsa-wg] New OGSA-HPC design team - Call for Participation
by Subramaniam, Ravi 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Hi, Please use the template that has been put together by the EGR-RG. This is based off of the original OGSA template and can serve to help both the OGSA work and work of other WGs in GGF. We agreed that the EGR would maintain the OGSA use cases as part of the larger collection and collation of GGF and Enterprise Grid use cases. We are also in the process of working with EGA owners of use cases to migrate/provide their use cases into EGR too. Here is the link to the template: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/egr-rg/document/UseCaseTemplate-r0. 2/en/1 Thanks! Ravi -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 6:55 AM To: Stephen.Pickles(a)manchester.ac.uk Cc: OGSA WG Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] New OGSA-HPC design team - Call for Participation Hi Stephen, > Would now be a good time to dust this off? I believe so. > Is there a new template? Last time round I had difficulty > relating the use case in the terminology requested, > which was then rather immature. New template should be one of initial discussion topic for this new design team. We now have OGSA glossary and I am pretty sure it helps a lot to understand terminologies. Marvin: You can find the latest (but rather obsolete use case template) here: Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto Stephen M Pickles wrote: > The RealityGrid use case in the OGSA Tier2 UC document > is also very HPC-oriented. > > Would now be a good time to dust this off? > > Is there a new template? Last time round I had difficulty > relating the use case in the terminology requested, > which was then rather immature. > > Stephen > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On >>Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto >>Sent: 23 February 2006 23:14 >>To: OGSA WG >>Subject: [ogsa-wg] New OGSA-HPC design team - Call for Participation >> >>Hi all, >> >>At the GGF16 OGSA-WG F2F meeting on Friday, we have discussed and >>agreed to form new OGSA-HPC design team. >> >>This design team will focus on the following; >> >> 1. Refine and analyze the HPC job submission use case (input from >> the existing one and other sources, including whether >>it covers >> the necessary functionality); and >> 2. Review existing specs; and >> 3a. If new specs are needed then launch activities to define the >> needed specifications; otherwise >> 3b. Try doing such a vertical profile possibly in a different WG. >> >>OGSA-HPC design team is open for everyone and will use OGSA-WG mailing >>list the same as the other design teams. If you are interested in >>this design team, please contact Marvin <theimer(a)microsoft.com> or me. >> >> From the F2F minutes. >> >>> ACTION: Marvin to start and lead a design team within OGSA-WG to >>> work on the HPC use case immediately. >>> - It should be advertised to the OGSA list >>> - There is an existing use case within OGSA-WG and it >> >>should be used >> >>> as input. (Ravi's use case from the OGSA UC Tier 2 document, >>> already sent out to the list.) Other input will also be >> >>solicited. >> >>> - Allocate time on the ogsa call periodically for a status review >>> - Potentially do a BOF at GGF17, if the scope is clearly >> >>defined by >> >>> then >>> - The design team to be named OGSA-HPC >> >>Presentation at F2F meeting (MUST READ); >>https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/GGF16-F2 >>F-Evolutionary-Approach >> >>Paper proposing "evolutionary vertical design efforts": >>https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/An_Evolu >>tionary_Approach_to_Realizing_the_Grid_Vision >> >>Meeting minutes; >>https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/ggf16-f2 >>f-minutes-20060217 >> >>Thanks, >>-- >>Hiro Kishimoto >> >> >> > > > >

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