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Glossary terms: enterprise, enterprise computing and e-Science
by Treadwell, Jem 31 Oct '06

31 Oct '06

Hi, Per Monday's call I've updated the glossary working document with the three definitions we discussed - enterprise, enterprise computing, and e-Science. The working document is at http://tinyurl.com/yb5kp2. All three definitions are below - note that enterprise is as agreed on the call, I developed the enterprise computing defintion based on the discussion (and please do note the final sentence that begins "Note that..."), and e-Science is abbreviated from the intro in wikipedia. Also note that the terms in italics also have entries in the glossary, and don't need to be spelled out here. If you have any comments please let me know; otherwise I'll move these to the main draft document before next Monday's call. Thanks! - Jem Enterprise: An organization whose primary activities are commercial. Enterprise computing: Computing to support the operation of an enterprise. Characteristics typically include: · Concentration of IT resources into one or more large-scale data centers. · Operation of enterprise applications such as CRM and ERP. · Emphasis on satisfying customer expectations through the use of SLOs. · The need to be able to deploy and re-deploy resources rapidly in response to business changes. · Attention to profitable operation by optimizing resource utilization and by assigning operating costs to business units. Note that many of these characteristics can also be found in non‑enterprise domains. e-Science: Computationally intensive science that is carried out in highly distributed network environments, or science that uses immense data sets that require grid computing. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Science. ________________________________ Jem Treadwell Hewlett-Packard Company 6000 Irwin Road Mount Laurel, NJ 08054 Phone: 856-638-6021 Fax: 856-638-6190 E-mail: Jem.Treadwell(a)hp.com <mailto:Jem.Treadwell@hp.com>

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Teleconference minutes - 30 October 2006
by Andreas Savva 31 Oct '06

31 Oct '06

Also attached. http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13989?nav=1 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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DMTF-OGF work register and profile docs for 10/30 OGSA call agenda
by Ellen Stokes 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

DMTF-OGF work register https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/viewDocument/projects.ogsa-wg/docm… DMTF profiles (slightly outdated but good enough for education) https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/viewDocument/projects.ogsa-wg/docm… Ellen

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Updated: OGSA Teleconference
by Andreas Savva 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

BEGIN:VCALENDAR PRODID:-//Microsoft Corporation//Outlook 11.0 MIMEDIR//EN VERSION:2.0 METHOD:REQUEST BEGIN:VEVENT ATTENDEE;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;RSVP=TRUE:MAILTO:ogsa-wg@ogf.org ORGANIZER:MAILTO:andreas.savva@jp.fujitsu.com DTSTART:20061030T220000Z DTEND:20061031T000000Z TRANSP:OPAQUE SEQUENCE:1 UID:040000008200E00074C5B7101A82E0080000000030855F0E1DFCC6010000000000000000100 000009E5E753160DB2C4DA09DDC7C57E76E5E DTSTAMP:20061030T032058Z DESCRIPTION:When: 2006年10月31日火曜日 7:00-9:00 (GMT+09:00) 大阪、札幌、東京.\n\n*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*\n\n\n*** ATTENTION: NEW time slot for Monday and Thursday ***\n\nMon: 5-7pm ET\, 4-6pm CT\, 2-4pm PT\, 7-9am JST\, 10pm-midnight UK\nThu: 8-10am ET\, 7-9am CT\, 5-7am PT\, 10pm-midnight JST\, 1-3pm UK\n\nThe following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Oct. 30th\nMonday from 4pm to 6pm (CST).\n\nThe dial-in number for Monday\;\n US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or\n +1 408 9616509 (San Jose)\n UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London)\n Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo)\n PIN: 4371991\n See more information:\n - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477\n\nScreen share service will be provided.\n URL: http://ogsa.glance.net\n Session key: 1030\n See more explanation:\n https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584\n\n1) Early discussion (10 min)\n Note taker assignment\n Roll call\n Telecon minutes approval (Oct. 26th)\n - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13975\n Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email)\n Agenda bashing\n\n2) Nov. F2F meeting aganda (Hiro\, 15 min)\n Review and agree on F2F meeting agenda.\n - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1620\n\n I've already got a couple of requests:\n o Move EMS sessions to Thursday afternoon (Andrew)\n o Add Service Modeling Language education session (Ellen)\n\n3) OGSA roadmap document v1.1 update (Chris Jordan\, 15 min)\n ChrisJ will report out the status of roadmap v1.1.\n\n The latest roadmap document:\n - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733\n List of included documents and associated contacts:\n - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1486\n Minutes from Oct. 26th roadmap call:\n - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13973\n\n4) OGF DMTF work register review (Ellen Stokes and Tom Roney\, 20 min)\n\n> Ellen reviewed slides Current dmtf-ggf work register status\n> answers.ppt: Notes/answers included in slides. One notable: WSDM/CIM\n> and WS-MAN/CIM drafts are works in progress and versions are\n> available. Work regisiter can be updated.\n> \n> Tom raised a question about Security/Auth-model which might have been\n> left out of the interaction: The dropping of attributes from\n> attribute certificates. Hiro suggested that this is security team\n> work. If CIM model has semantics\, then need to track security\n> attribute (delegated) for storage services access model (current impl\n> do not do this right). Hiro suggests that perhaps this belongs in\n> charter of new WG or in design team. Tom will document this issue.\n> \n> Tom/Ellen agreed to review this topic again on the Oct 30th telecon\n> call.\n\n5) CIM profile introduction (Ellen Stokes and Tom Maguire\, 40 min)\n\n> - Though normative work is the goal some educational work on what is\n> a CIM profile is needed.\n> \n> AI-1023a: Tom and Ellen will do a CIM Profile Introduction for\n> Oct.30 (45-60 minutes session)\n\n6) Glossary term discussion (Jem Treadwell\, 20 min)\n\n Discuss and seek rough consensus on Enterprise\, Enterprise\n computing\, and e-Science.\n - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13958\n\n7) Wrap up\n AOB\n\n<*NEXT CALL*>\nhttps://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1\n\nNov. 2 (Thu): Information/data modeling\,\n EMS Architecture scenarios\nNov. 6 (Mon): EGA reference model\, OGSA roadmap\n\nNov. 9 & 10: F2F meeting in Tampa\n\n<*ACTION ITEMS*>\nhttps://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569\n\n > From Sept. 21 call.\n AI-0921c: Dave S (as Standards VP) to talk to the next\n Security ADs (Blair Dillaway and David Groep) about the\n Security Area task list.\n\n > From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F\n AI-0915a: (A Savva\, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to\n collect workflow (BPEL) experience\n AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker\n AI-0915e: Hiro to talk with OGF Editor to start an errata process\n\n > From Aug. 17 call\n AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN\,\n Globus\, etc) that have implemented practical grids and\n start a discussion on how they handle data:\n - how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled\n - how transfers are modeled\n - how files are advertised\n - how applications find files (query\, by knowledge\,?)\n (Due Oct. 9)\n\n > From Aug. 3 call\n AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why\n using ID/IDREF is not a good idea.\n AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment\n variables\n\n > From July 20 F2F\n- EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to\n contribute use cases.\n- Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to\n Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes.\n\nPostponed:\nUntil Nov. F2F (Nov. 9):\n AI-1023b: Tom and Ellen will start working on an introductory\n example for the F2F.\n - The exact topic is not decided. It may be good to make\n sure that it aligns with the XQuery examples that Michel\n is using. (Tom will contact Michel.)\n - Michel and Fred should be involved in this work.\n\nUntil next reference model call (Nov. 6?):\n AI-1023c: Tom volunteered to review Hiro's HPC Cluster use case\n slides and make appropriate changes to indicate where the\n CIM Profile would fit in and how it would link into the\n Reference Model.\n AI-1023d: Paul will add more items to list on slide 6 of the HPC\n Cluster use case\n AI-1023f: Paul will review relevant OGF specs and give feedback to\n Hiro for the next version of the use case slide deck.\n AI-1023g: Hiro will look at other parts of slide 5 and identify\n further possible refinements of this use case.\n\nUntil next EMS call (Nov. 2):\n AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just\n presented into the scenarios document\n AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES.\n AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities\n (short paragraph for each\, e.g. time constraint as JSDL\n extension.)\n AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this “terminate”\n method of activity interface.\n AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario.\n AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM.\n AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal on\n "ActivityExecutionCandidate."\n AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this\n scenario.\n AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch\n Scenarios document\n\n\n SUMMARY:Updated: OGSA Teleconference PRIORITY:5 X-MICROSOFT-CDO-IMPORTANCE:1 CLASS:PUBLIC BEGIN:VALARM TRIGGER:-PT15M ACTION:DISPLAY DESCRIPTION:Reminder END:VALARM END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR

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Proposed agenda for Oct. 30th call
by Hiro Kishimoto 29 Oct '06

29 Oct '06

Hi all, *ATTENTION*: Summer time ends this weekend and we will use new time slot for Monday and Thursday Mon: 5-7pm ET, 4-6pm CT, 2-4pm PT, 7-9am JST, 10pm-midnight UK Thu: 8-10am ET, 7-9am CT, 5-7am PT, 10pm-midnight JST, 1-3pm UK The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Oct. 30th Monday from 4pm to 6pm (CST). The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 1030 See more explanation: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (Oct. 26th) - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13975 Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email) Agenda bashing 2) Nov. F2F meeting aganda (Hiro, 15 min) Review and agree on F2F meeting agenda. - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1620 I've already got a couple of requests: o Move EMS sessions to Thursday afternoon (Andrew) o Add Service Modeling Language education session (Ellen) 3) OGSA roadmap document v1.1 update (Chris Jordan, 15 min) ChrisJ will report out the status of roadmap v1.1. The latest roadmap document: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 List of included documents and associated contacts: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1486 Minutes from Oct. 26th roadmap call: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13973 4) OGF DMTF work register review (Ellen Stokes and Tom Roney, 20 min) > Ellen reviewed slides Current dmtf-ggf work register status > answers.ppt: Notes/answers included in slides. One notable: WSDM/CIM > and WS-MAN/CIM drafts are works in progress and versions are > available. Work regisiter can be updated. > > Tom raised a question about Security/Auth-model which might have been > left out of the interaction: The dropping of attributes from > attribute certificates. Hiro suggested that this is security team > work. If CIM model has semantics, then need to track security > attribute (delegated) for storage services access model (current impl > do not do this right). Hiro suggests that perhaps this belongs in > charter of new WG or in design team. Tom will document this issue. > > Tom/Ellen agreed to review this topic again on the Oct 30th telecon > call. 5) CIM profile introduction (Ellen Stokes and Tom Maguire, 40 min) > - Though normative work is the goal some educational work on what is > a CIM profile is needed. > > AI-1023a: Tom and Ellen will do a CIM Profile Introduction for > Oct.30 (45-60 minutes session) 6) Glossary term discussion (Jem Treadwell, 20 min) Discuss and seek rough consensus on Enterprise, Enterprise computing, and e-Science. - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13958 7) Wrap up AOB <*NEXT CALL*> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1 Nov. 2 (Thu): Information/data modeling, EMS Architecture scenarios Nov. 6 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap Nov. 9 & 10: F2F meeting in Tampa <*ACTION ITEMS*> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569 > From Sept. 21 call. AI-0921c: Dave S (as Standards VP) to talk to the next Security ADs (Blair Dillaway and David Groep) about the Security Area task list. > From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F AI-0915a: (A Savva, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to collect workflow (BPEL) experience AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker AI-0915e: Hiro to talk with OGF Editor to start an errata process > From Aug. 17 call AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN, Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and start a discussion on how they handle data: - how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled - how transfers are modeled - how files are advertised - how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?) (Due Oct. 9) > From Aug. 3 call AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why using ID/IDREF is not a good idea. AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment variables > From July 20 F2F - EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to contribute use cases. - Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes. Postponed: Until Nov. F2F (Nov. 9): AI-1023b: Tom and Ellen will start working on an introductory example for the F2F. - The exact topic is not decided. It may be good to make sure that it aligns with the XQuery examples that Michel is using. (Tom will contact Michel.) - Michel and Fred should be involved in this work. Until next reference model call (Nov. 6?): AI-1023c: Tom volunteered to review Hiro's HPC Cluster use case slides and make appropriate changes to indicate where the CIM Profile would fit in and how it would link into the Reference Model. AI-1023d: Paul will add more items to list on slide 6 of the HPC Cluster use case AI-1023f: Paul will review relevant OGF specs and give feedback to Hiro for the next version of the use case slide deck. AI-1023g: Hiro will look at other parts of slide 5 and identify further possible refinements of this use case. Until next EMS call (Nov. 2): AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just presented into the scenarios document AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES. AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities (short paragraph for each, e.g. time constraint as JSDL extension.) AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this “terminate” method of activity interface. AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario. AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM. AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal on "ActivityExecutionCandidate." AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this scenario. AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch Scenarios document ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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Nov. F2F meeting agenda draft
by Hiro Kishimoto 27 Oct '06

27 Oct '06

Hi all, Andreas and I have written up first cut agenda draft for Nov. F2F meeting and put it on wiki page. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1620 Please give us your feedback by email or at the next Monday OGSA-WG call. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thursday Morning (9am - 12:30pm) * Welcome (Tom Maguire and Hiro Kishimoto, 0.5 H) * EMS architecture scenarios (Andreas Savva, 1 H) o final document review * EMS roadmap discussion (Andreas Savva, 1 H) o Future EMS scenarios (capabilities) * Next generation profiles (Andrew Grimshaw, 2 H) o I would like to suggest that we discuss the HPC-profile - and whether a next generation profile should be done as well. Thursday Afternoon (1:30-6pm) * Security (Alan Sill, 1 H) o OGSA-AuthN-WG charter o other security business * Information modeling document review (Ellen Stokes and Fred Machiel, 1.5 H) o Container model document o Modeling guideline * Info model & sercice interface integration discussion (Ellen Stokes and Tom Maguire, 2 H) o Motivating example o The subject is really about the linkage between the services we define in OGSA (of course as guided by the reference model) and the information model that is exposed through those services. In general this has been addressed in the way that SNIA and DMTF build Profiles. Terminology is a bit overloaded here... the way we (OGSA) use profiles is in the WS-I sense. Profiles in the SNIA and DMTF are about refining information models to instance based models (cardinality restrictions on relationships, required and optional properties, etc) and the tie of those instances to tasks (service interfaces). We should consider how we are going to accomplish the same thing in OGSA. Friday Morning (9am - 12:30pm) * JSDL/XQuery/Info Model discussion (Ellen Stokes and Michel Drescher, 3.5 H) Friday Afternoon (1:30-5pm) * OGSA roadmap v1.1 review (Chris Jordan, 1.5 H) * document status review (Hiro Kishimoto, 0.5 H) * Future schedule (Tom Maguire and Hiro Kishimoto, 1.5 H) o Identify tasks and priorities o Gaps and holes o OGF19 session plan o Telecon scheudle

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Teleconfeerence minutes - 26 October 2006
by Michel Drescher 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

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URL for OGSA-WG charter
by Alan Sill 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

Comments: BOF at GGF 19 can be used to set deliverables and provide detailed milestones for this work group. Leadership and charter should be reviewed by new Security Area Directors. http://www.ggf.org/gf/group_info/charter.php?review&group=OGSA-AuthN-WG Alan Sill TIGRE Senior Scientist High Performance Computing Center TTU ==================================================================== : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: Alan.Sill(a)ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ====================================================================

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Regrets today
by Maguire_Tom＠emc.com 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

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BES specs
by Hiro Kishimoto 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

Hi Paul and reference model design team members, > AI-1023e: Hiro will send out references to relevant OGF specs, > e.g., BES and CDDLM The following is BES related materials for reference model discussion. (1) OGSA-BES specification draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13793 (2) OGSA-HPC profile use case document - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13780 (3) OGSA-HPC profile specification draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13736 Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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