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[Invitation] Express Authentication Profile (Duane Merrill) @ 2007-07-02 5pm - 6pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Express Authentication Profile (Duane Merrill) Time: 2007-07-02 5pm - 6pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA Express AuthN profiles (Duane) Duane has updated the three EAP security profile documents on Gridforge with some minor revisions, including clarifications, fixes to requirement-numbering inconsistencies, and added an example SOAP message meeting the requirements of the X.509 message-level binding assertion policy. - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spuc A question for the group: Would it be a good idea to also profile a Kerberos message-level binding assertion policy within the OGSA-SP-SecureSoapMessaging profile? The document currently profiles X.509 and UsernameToken binding policies, primarily because of their widespread use / ease-of-adoption. Thoughts? 3) Tracker item review (Duane) Issue tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/isuc - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spsa - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spss - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spst Minutes approval June 18: Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=Z2tlZmg3MmZuMzVmY2FnOG… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) @ 2007-07-02 6pm - 7pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) Time: 2007-07-02 6pm - 7pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Profile Interoperability (David Snelling) 3) OGSA Primer review (Andrew 30 min) - Agreed that the proposed structure of this document is fine. - Andrew is working on a new draft. He is updating the infrastructure section. He will upload a new draft by the next call. 4) August F2F meeting update (30 min Hiro) Please answer your availability through SurveyMonkey. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=88233875297 - Corporate Inn can give us $129 per night and St. Francis Arms can give us $89. And both hotels still have many available room now. Many people prefer Corporate Inn but St. Francis Arms give us better rate. - Session schedule review - Group dinner (Tuesday or Monday) Minutes approval June 11: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14606 Action Item review AI-0511c: Steve Newhouse volunteered to look into the possible next documents for the EMS Architecture and draw up a proposal AI-0611f: Dave S will use the HPC Profile wiki page as a starting point and produce a first draft for the interop wiki page, by the July 2 call AI-0611g: Jem will ask the people involved in the HP WSRF implementation about the possibility of taking part in the interop. AI-0611h: Once the wiki page is set up, Hiro will ask the IBM and HP OGF Board members for their teams to take part. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NG1rdTYzM2UxNGs3MzdsMX… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Updated Invitation] General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) @ 2007-07-02 6pm - 7pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) Time: 2007-07-02 6pm - 7pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Profile Interoperability (David Snelling) 3) OGSA Primer review (Andrew 30 min) - Agreed that the proposed structure of this document is fine. - Andrew is working on a new draft. He is updating the infrastructure section. He will upload a new draft by the next call. 4) August F2F meeting update (30 min Hiro) Please answer your availability through SurveyMonkey. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=88233875297 - Corporate Inn can give us $129 per night and St. Francis Arms can give us $89. And both hotels still have many available room now. Many people prefer Corporate Inn but St. Francis Arms give us better rate. - Session schedule review - Group dinner (Tuesday or Monday) Minutes approval June 11: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14606 Action Item review AI-0511c: Steve Newhouse volunteered to look into the possible next documents for the EMS Architecture and draw up a proposal AI-0611f: Dave S will use the HPC Profile wiki page as a starting point and produce a first draft for the interop wiki page, by the July 2 call AI-0611g: Jem will ask the people involved in the HP WSRF implementation about the possibility of taking part in the interop. AI-0611h: Once the wiki page is set up, Hiro will ask the IBM and HP OGF Board members for their teams to take part. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NG1rdTYzM2UxNGs3MzdsMX… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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For the minutes
by Laurence Field 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

The person coordinating the Storage Schema is Felix Ehm.. Laurence

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New draft of GLUE 2.0 Specification
by Sergio Andreozzi 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Hi everybody, we have just uploaded a new draft of the GLUE 2.0 specification. Here are the main changes: - clarify difference between computing resource and computing element - from Gerson Galang use case: single computing service in front of two different batch systems - general clean-up - inclusion of first UML Class diagram for Storage Element (description to be added) - added activity entity - promoted share entity as a main concept you can find it in the draft section of GLUE WG document repository: http://forge.ogf.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.glue-wg/docman.roo… we plan to provide a preview of the new changes in the tomorrow call of the OGSA Resource Management Design Team phonecall: http://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=N25vaWg5MjQ4NTRzOWJpdTU0c3VwMWZzcm… (we apologize for the short-term advise) We will set up a phonecall next week for the GLUE WG. Comments/questions are always welcome. Best regards, Sergio and Balazs -- Sergio Andreozzi INFN-CNAF, Tel: +39 051 609 2860 Viale Berti Pichat, 6/2 Fax: +39 051 609 2746 40126 Bologna (Italy) Web: http://www.cnaf.infn.it/~andreozzi

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Re: [ogsa-wg] [glue-wg] New draft of GLUE 2.0 Specification
by Sergio Andreozzi 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Hi Gerson, Gerson Galang wrote: > Thanks for integrating our requirements into the new GLUE 2.0 spec. What > you have in the draft will work for us now. > > The only thing I want to comment on is the ComputingShare's relationship > with the ComputingResource and ComputingService entities. If a > ComputingShare is an abstraction of a queue this is not always the case. That's why we have a different naming/definition. For instance, in the LSF batch system you can use hierarchical fair sharing in order to define different utilization targets for jobs entering the same queue. The scheduling will consider the group to which the job was mapped. Therefore you can have, for instance, one queue with three different utilization targets for group A, B and C or three queues for each of them. At the GLUE level, they will appear the same, via the share concept. > and the ComputingElement is > an abstraction of the Batch System, in the new version, the batch system is associated to the computing resource. I realize that we have to clean up the properties list (moving the batch system specific from computing element to computing resource). > then there should be a direct > > association between the ComputingShare and the ComputingElement. Having > the ComputingShare linked to the ComputingService will introduce a > number of replicated instances of the same ComputingShare on all the > ComputingServices which is not really necessary. Attached is the diagram > again to refresh your memory on what I think it should look like. > Anyway, just my 2 cents.. I think the relationship between a share and the service is needed because you can expose a certain share via a certain service, while another share with another service. You should be able to know which share for which resource is accessible via a certain service interface. We will add detailed information in the doc revision. Cheers, Sergio > > Cheers, > Gerson > > > On 6/27/07, *Sergio Andreozzi* < sergio.andreozzi(a)cnaf.infn.it > <mailto:sergio.andreozzi@cnaf.infn.it>> wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > we have just uploaded a new draft of the GLUE 2.0 specification. > > Here are the main changes: > > - clarify difference between computing resource and computing element > - from Gerson Galang use case: single computing service in front of two > different batch systems > - general clean-up > - inclusion of first UML Class diagram for Storage Element (description > to be added) > - added activity entity > - promoted share entity as a main concept > > you can find it in the draft section of GLUE WG document repository: > http://forge.ogf.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.glue-wg/docman.roo… > <http://forge.ogf.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.glue-wg/docman.roo…> > > we plan to provide a preview of the new changes in the tomorrow call of > the OGSA Resource Management Design Team phonecall: > http://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=N25vaWg5MjQ4NTRzOWJpdTU0c3VwMWZzcm… > <http://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=N25vaWg5MjQ4NTRzOWJpdTU0c3VwMWZzcm…> > > (we apologize for the short-term advise) > > > We will set up a phonecall next week for the GLUE WG. Comments/questions > are always welcome. > > Best regards, > > Sergio and Balazs > > -- > Sergio Andreozzi > INFN-CNAF, Tel: +39 051 609 2860 > Viale Berti Pichat, 6/2 Fax: +39 051 609 2746 > 40126 Bologna (Italy) Web: > http://www.cnaf.infn.it/~andreozzi > <http://www.cnaf.infn.it/%7Eandreozzi> > _______________________________________________ > glue-wg mailing list > glue-wg(a)ogf.org <mailto:glue-wg@ogf.org> > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/glue-wg > <http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/glue-wg> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Sergio Andreozzi INFN-CNAF, Tel: +39 051 609 2860 Viale Berti Pichat, 6/2 Fax: +39 051 609 2746 40126 Bologna (Italy) Web: http://www.cnaf.infn.it/~andreozzi

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Re: [ogsa-wg] [ogsa-authn-bof] Notes from Joint OGSA WG AuthN/AuthZ call
by Richard Sinnott 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

This is something that we at NeSC (and I know many others) are interested in. My own personal perspective on the OGF AuthN and AuthZ work is that it is something everyone recognises as important, but that the detailed specification of the standards is not something many can/are able to usefully contribute to. (I think this is similar across many of the OGF standards areas). Case in point on the recent thread between David and Tom on how to use SAML AuthZ statements vs XACML contexts etc. How many folk in OGF-land are able to decide on the advantages/disadvantages of these things? We at NeSC are predominantly technology end users supporting a wide variety of e-Research projects. We have applied the implementations of the authN/authZ specs, e.g. the SAML AuthZ API, and identified their limitations etc, but it is only when these things have been implemented by the likes of the Globus and PERMIS teams for example, that we can really play an effective role. I think that this resonates across all of OGF activities be it DAIS specs for building data Grids, JSDL/BES specs for compute Grids etc. I am not sure how mature the Shibboleth/authZ has to be to be in order to be explored within OGF. I definitely think that workshops/OGF meetings showing how folk have built VOs/Campus Grids etc using the likes of Shibboleth, VOMS and other AAs, with authZ technologies such as PERMIS is needed/essential, i.e. I think the authN/authZ work should be as much about sharing expertise in how best to build secure Grids/VOs as it is on pursuing standards. Cheers, Rich -----Original Message----- From: ogsa-wg-bounces(a)ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Blair Dillaway Sent: 26 June 2007 01:10 To: David Chadwick Cc: OGSA Authentication WG BoF; OGSA AUTHZ WG; OGSA-WG Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] [ogsa-authn-bof] Notes from Joint OGSA WG AuthN/AuthZ call I don't remember any serious discussion of chartering work in this area, either within the AuthZ WG or elsewhere. So I can only surmise people haven't felt this area is adequately mature. The sessions Von hosted on Grid-Shib technology at OGF's last year certainly indicated a diverse set of approaches were being explored. Did you and Von discuss this in drafting the current charter? Do you believe things have evolved to the point where we could build critical mass around work in this area? (Of course, I'd love to hear from anyone who thinks the OGF should be doing work in this area.) Regards, Blair David Chadwick wrote: > > Hi Blair > > Interestingly there is one aspect of authz that has a significant > amount of user interest and that is merging attributes from Shibboleth > and Grids to be used together for authz decision making. But this is > currently not within the scope of the OGF OGSA Authz group's work plan. > So what does this indicate? > > regards > > David > > ***************************************************************** > David W. Chadwick, BSc PhD > Professor of Information Systems Security The Computing Laboratory, > University of Kent, Canterbury, CT2 7NF Skype Name: davidwchadwick > Tel: +44 1227 82 3221 > Fax +44 1227 762 811 > Mobile: +44 77 96 44 7184 > Email: D.W.Chadwick(a)kent.ac.uk > Home Page: http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/staff/dwc8/index.html > Research Web site: > http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/research/groups/iss/index.html > Entrust key validation string: MLJ9-DU5T-HV8J PGP Key ID is 0xBC238DE5 > > ***************************************************************** -- ogsa-wg mailing list ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg

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[Cancelled Event] Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) @ 2007-06-28 8am - 9am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Hiro Kishimoto cancelled the following event: Title: Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) Time: 2007-06-28 8am - 9am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing ** Detailed Agenda TBD *** Minutes approval June 7: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14603 Action Item review * AI-0607c: Laurence will write up (a) small chart of what this design team will do (plan or schedule) and, (b) generic information services architecture in a simple chart. You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Reminder] Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) @ 2007-06-28 09:00 - 10:00 ()
by Google Calendar 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) Time: 2007-06-28 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) "Container and BES Model in OGSA Grid" Final document review (Ellen Stokes, 30min) Ellen will update the container/service doc early this week so it will be ready for Thursday call where we can announce workgroup last call (in parallel with the MOF chnages being balloted at the TC). 3) GLUE work review (Laurence and Sergio, 30 min) Laurence or Sergio want to discuss/review where things stand with their GLUE work. Minutes approval June 7: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14600 Action Item review * AI-0607a: Doug or Chris S to look at the use cases template and consider mapping the SAS use cases to this template. - Can be added to the wiki or mailed to the group. * AI-0607b: Doug to test if attributes on the Execution Environment can address the need for boolean capabilities. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=N25vaWg5MjQ4NTRzOWJpdT… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Reminder] Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) @ 2007-06-28 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Google Calendar 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) Time: 2007-06-28 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing ** Detailed Agenda TBD *** Minutes approval June 7: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14603 Action Item review * AI-0607c: Laurence will write up (a) small chart of what this design team will do (plan or schedule) and, (b) generic information services architecture in a simple chart. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWNncGZqcjdmc2xsNWxzbz… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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