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RSS Specification Submitted to Editor
by Donal K. Fellows 17 Oct '07

17 Oct '07

The RSS Specification has now been submitted to the Editor. Many thanks to the contributions of everyone who has commented, and especially to Andreas Savva. Donal.

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Re: [ogsa-wg] OGSA-WG activities on the Express Profile
by Hiro Kishimoto 17 Oct '07

17 Oct '07

Hi Duane, Minor procedural comment. > As for the status of the OGSA-SP within the OGF document process, the > OGSA-SP is on schedule to enter public comment within the week. I would say the OGSA-SP is on schedule to make WG final call in this week and submit to the OGF editor for public comments in the following week. Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:OGSA-WG activities on the Express Profile From: Duane Merrill III <dgm4d(a)virginia.edu> To: Alan Sill <Alan.Sill(a)ttu.edu>, Andrew Grimshaw <grimshaw(a)virginia.edu> Cc: "Alan Sill" <Alan.Sill(a)ttu.edu>, "Shannon Hastings" <hastings(a)BMI.OSU.EDU>, "Hiro Kishimoto" <hiro.kishimoto(a)jp.fujitsu.com> Date: 2007/10/17 6:39 > Shannon and Alan, > > It sounds as if the caGrid /getServiceSecurityMetadata/() operation has > similar intent as the OGSA Security Profile (OGSA-SP, a.k.a., "Express > Profile") documents: to advertise and facilitate interoperable, secure > communication (or to cleanly determine if interoperability is not > possible). > > The mechanism for discovery is quite different, however. In part, the > OGSA-SP documents are profiles on WS-Addressing: how to convey > secure-communication requirements within endpoint references (EPRs). If > we were to apply the OGSA-SP to your use-case below, the EPR used by a > client to interact with a resource would indicate that the endpoint > requires a TLS transport layer (possibly also indicating a requirement > for mutual-authentication at the TLS layer). > > Why do this within the EPR? The EPR datastructure plays a crucial role > for addressing resources in the OGSA architecture and is extensively > incorporated into many of its service interfaces (e.g., notification, > execution management, directory services, resource management, etc.). > The utility of the grid derives from the dynamic composition of > services, and EPRs are how services refer to and address each other. > They encapsulate the "invocation context" for a resource: everything one > needs to know to communicate with it. Publishing security requirements > elsewhere (e.g., within WSDL, or exposed through reflective service > operations) incurs extra communication cost, availability and > interoperability risks, etc. > > How are communication requirements expressed? The OGSA-SP documents use > the newly ratified OASIS WS-SecurityPolicy standard to convey > secure-communication requirements. Although resources are free to > express arbitrary security requirements, the OGSA-SP documents define > well-known, composable security policies for common security > mechanisms. (And are perfectly extensible as new mechanisms are > introduced.) For example, the OGSA-SP presently contains composable > policies for server-authenticated TLS, mutually-authenticated TLS, > UsernameToken authentication, mutual-X.509 authentication, digital > signature and encryption of document elements, etc., most of which defer > completely to sections of the WS-I Basic Security Profile. In this > fashion, the OGSA-SP also serves as a location for minor mechanism > clarifications and refinements as Web services security mechanisms are > adapted to the Grid environment. > > As for the status of the OGSA-SP within the OGF document process, the > OGSA-SP is on schedule to enter public comment within the week. The > latest drafts of the OGSA-SP documents (and a potentially-languishing > use-case document) can be found at: > > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.ogsa-wg/doc… > > The OGSA-SP documents themselves are architected in a hierarchical, > extensible fashion. The /OGSA-BSP Secure Addressing/ document defines > the general attachment mechanism for conveying security policy within > EPRs as well as how to make them tamper-resistant through digital > signature. The /OGSA-SP Secure Transport/ document defines well-known > policies for de-facto transport-level secure communication > configurations. The /OGSA-SP Secure SOAP Messaging/ document defines > analogous policies for de-facto message-level security mechanisms. > > If you have someone at OGF and are interested in more detail, I will be > presenting the OGSA-SP documents at the > /OGSA Express Authentication Security Profile/ session on Thursday > afternoon, 3:15 pm - 4:45 pm, and would enjoy discussing them further. > > Cheers, > > Duane > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Sill" <Alan.Sill(a)ttu.edu <mailto:Alan.Sill@ttu.edu>> > To: "Duane Merrill" <dgm4d(a)virginia.edu <mailto:dgm4d@virginia.edu>>; > "Andrew Grimshaw" <grimshaw(a)virginia.edu <mailto:grimshaw@virginia.edu>> > Cc: "Alan Sill" <Alan.Sill(a)ttu.edu <mailto:Alan.Sill@ttu.edu>>; "Shannon > Hastings" <hastings(a)BMI.OSU.EDU <mailto:hastings@BMI.OSU.EDU>>; "Hiro > Kishimoto" <hiro.kishimoto(a)jp.fujitsu.com > <mailto:hiro.kishimoto@jp.fujitsu.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:36 PM > Subject: OGSA-WG activities on the Express Profile > > > Duane and Andrew, > > > > Can you catch us up, including Shannon, on the activities with > > respect to the Express Profile and related documents, as they might > > relate to the use case described below? Shannon works with the > > CaGrid group, and says that they have someone out at OGF who might be > > able to interact with you about this if you are there. Meanwhile, a > > few web links and a status update as regards the use case documents > > and draft profile might be useful. > > > > Thanks, > > Alan > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > >> From: Shannon Hastings <hastings(a)BMI.OSU.EDU > <mailto:hastings@BMI.OSU.EDU>> > >> Date: October 16, 2007 12:43:22 PM CDT > >> To: CAGRID_USERS-L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV <mailto:CAGRID_USERS-L@LIST.NIH.GOV> > >> Subject: Re: operations added by Introduce > >> Reply-To: caGrid Users discussion Forum <CAGRID_USERS-L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV > <mailto:CAGRID_USERS-L@LIST.NIH.GOV>> > >> > >> Please do. We have recently become aware of another similar effort > >> within the grouper group. Maybe this is the same effort. Steve is > >> out > >> at OGF this week so when he gets this email he can try to find those > >> folks as well. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Shannon > >> > >> > >> Shannon Hastings > >> co-Director > >> Software Research Institute > >> Department of Biomedical Informatics > >> Ohio State University > >> > >> Office: (614) 292-9461 > >> Lab: (614) 292-9845 > >> hastings(a)bmi.osu.edu <mailto:hastings@bmi.osu.edu> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: caGrid Users discussion Forum [mailto:CAGRID_USERS- > >> L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV <mailto:L@LIST.NIH.GOV>] > >> On Behalf Of Alan Sill > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:27 PM > >> To: CAGRID_USERS-L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV <mailto:CAGRID_USERS-L@LIST.NIH.GOV> > >> Subject: Re: operations added by Introduce > >> > >> FYI, there is now an effort to define an architecture for > >> specification, advertising and discovery of security requirements of > >> exactly this nature in the context of the OGSA-WG "Express Profile" > >> as a profile under WS-Security. If you are interested in this work, > >> I would be happy to put you in touch with members of that group so > >> you can read the profiles and use cases, and comment. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Alan > >> > >> On Oct 16, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Shannon Hastings wrote: > >> > >>> To be even more specific just in case you are concerned about > >>> security. > >>> > >>> getServiceSecurityMetadata is an operation that is always public on a > >>> service. What it does is tell any client what it required to talk to > >>> the service. It contains no more information than that. It > >>> enables a > >>> client to know that he cannot talk to the service without a using TLS > >>> for example. > >>> > >>> The other three methods are part of the wsrf spec regarding resource > >>> property access. These methods will use whatever security setting > >>> you > >>> put on your service. If you say that your service is secure and set > >>> authorization requirements at he service level in introduce, than > >>> these > >>> methods will also inherit this security. So you have total > >>> control of > >>> whether your resource properties are available. Now keep in mind, > >>> there > >>> are resource properties of the service, not the service properties > >>> (which should be used for internal configuration and are not > >>> available > >>> through any operations). > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Shannon Hastings > >>> co-Director > >>> Software Research Institute > >>> Department of Biomedical Informatics > >>> Ohio State University > >>> > >>> Office: (614) 292-9461 > >>> Lab: (614) 292-9845 > >>> hastings(a)bmi.osu.edu <mailto:hastings@bmi.osu.edu> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: caGrid Users discussion Forum [mailto:CAGRID_USERS- > >>> L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV <mailto:L@LIST.NIH.GOV>] > >>> On Behalf Of Shannon Hastings > >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:41 AM > >>> To: CAGRID_USERS-L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV <mailto:CAGRID_USERS-L@LIST.NIH.GOV> > >>> Subject: Re: operations added by Introduce > >>> > >>> These are required operations of any caGrid service. They are > >>> provide > >>> access to querying the resource properties of the main service as > >>> well > >>> as the security configuration of the service. This security > >>> information > >>> is just metadata about the requirements needed to connect to the > >>> service. This enables a client to know that it will need a > >>> certificate, > >>> or will need to use SSL. You should not disable these operations. > >>> For > >>> more information on them. The resource property ones are related > >>> to the > >>> WS specifications and the getSecurityMetadata is a caGrid only > >>> operation > >>> which you can read about at caGrid.org in the Introduce technical > >>> guide. > >>> > >>> Shannon > >>> > >>> > >>> Shannon Hastings > >>> co-Director > >>> Software Research Institute > >>> Department of Biomedical Informatics > >>> Ohio State University > >>> > >>> Office: (614) 292-9461 > >>> Lab: (614) 292-9845 > >>> hastings(a)bmi.osu.edu <mailto:hastings@bmi.osu.edu> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: caGrid Users discussion Forum [mailto:CAGRID_USERS- > >>> L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV <mailto:L@LIST.NIH.GOV>] > >>> On Behalf Of Joel Schneider > >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:27 AM > >>> To: CAGRID_USERS-L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV <mailto:CAGRID_USERS-L@LIST.NIH.GOV> > >>> Subject: operations added by Introduce > >>> > >>> I noticed that a service created using Introduce has the following > >>> four operations, in addition to the operations I defined by hand: > >>> > >>> getResourceProperty > >>> getMultipleResourceProperties > >>> queryResourceProperties > >>> getServiceSecurityMetadata > >>> > >>> This service in question was originally created using Introduce > >>> 1.0 as > >>> an analytical service, and later migrated to Introduce 1.1. > >>> > >>> The presence of these additional operations raises a number of > >>> questions. > >>> > >>> 1) What is the purpose of the additional operations? > >>> > >>> 2) If these operations are not required by my service, is there an > >>> easy > >>> or recommended way to remove or disable them? > >>> > >>> 3) From a security perspective, I'm concerned these operations might > >>> expose the service's ServiceConfiguration to a remote user. Is > >>> that > >>> the case? (Where is the code which implements these operations?) > >>> > >>> Help with these questions would be much appreciated. > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> Joel > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Joel Schneider National Marrow Donor Program > >>> Software Developer (Contractor) 3001 Broadway Street NE > >>> phone: 612-617-8321 Minneapolis, MN 55413 > >>> email: jschneid(a)nmdp.org <mailto:jschneid@nmdp.org> > http://www.marrow.org/ > > > > Alan Sill, Ph.D > > TIGRE Senior Scientist, High Performance Computing Center > > Adjunct Professor of Physics > > TTU > > > > ==================================================================== > > : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : > > : e-mail: Alan.Sill(a)ttu.edu <mailto:Alan.Sill@ttu.edu> ph. > 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : > > ==================================================================== > >

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Re: [ogsa-wg] OGSA-WG activities on the Express Profile
by Andrew Grimshaw 17 Oct '07

17 Oct '07

Guys, Please have the discussion on the OGSA-wg mailing list so everyone can see _____ From: Duane Merrill III [mailto:dgm4d@virginia.edu] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:40 PM To: Alan Sill; Andrew Grimshaw Cc: Alan Sill; Shannon Hastings; Hiro Kishimoto Subject: Re: OGSA-WG activities on the Express Profile Shannon and Alan, It sounds as if the caGrid getServiceSecurityMetadata() operation has similar intent as the OGSA Security Profile (OGSA-SP, a.k.a., "Express Profile") documents: to advertise and facilitate interoperable, secure communication (or to cleanly determine if interoperability is not possible). The mechanism for discovery is quite different, however. In part, the OGSA-SP documents are profiles on WS-Addressing: how to convey secure-communication requirements within endpoint references (EPRs). If we were to apply the OGSA-SP to your use-case below, the EPR used by a client to interact with a resource would indicate that the endpoint requires a TLS transport layer (possibly also indicating a requirement for mutual-authentication at the TLS layer). Why do this within the EPR? The EPR datastructure plays a crucial role for addressing resources in the OGSA architecture and is extensively incorporated into many of its service interfaces (e.g., notification, execution management, directory services, resource management, etc.). The utility of the grid derives from the dynamic composition of services, and EPRs are how services refer to and address each other. They encapsulate the "invocation context" for a resource: everything one needs to know to communicate with it. Publishing security requirements elsewhere (e.g., within WSDL, or exposed through reflective service operations) incurs extra communication cost, availability and interoperability risks, etc. How are communication requirements expressed? The OGSA-SP documents use the newly ratified OASIS WS-SecurityPolicy standard to convey secure-communication requirements. Although resources are free to express arbitrary security requirements, the OGSA-SP documents define well-known, composable security policies for common security mechanisms. (And are perfectly extensible as new mechanisms are introduced.) For example, the OGSA-SP presently contains composable policies for server-authenticated TLS, mutually-authenticated TLS, UsernameToken authentication, mutual-X.509 authentication, digital signature and encryption of document elements, etc., most of which defer completely to sections of the WS-I Basic Security Profile. In this fashion, the OGSA-SP also serves as a location for minor mechanism clarifications and refinements as Web services security mechanisms are adapted to the Grid environment. As for the status of the OGSA-SP within the OGF document process, the OGSA-SP is on schedule to enter public comment within the week. The latest drafts of the OGSA-SP documents (and a potentially-languishing use-case document) can be found at: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.ogsa-wg/docm an.root.working_drafts.security_profiles_use_case The OGSA-SP documents themselves are architected in a hierarchical, extensible fashion. The OGSA-BSP Secure Addressing document defines the general attachment mechanism for conveying security policy within EPRs as well as how to make them tamper-resistant through digital signature. The OGSA-SP Secure Transport document defines well-known policies for de-facto transport-level secure communication configurations. The OGSA-SP Secure SOAP Messaging document defines analogous policies for de-facto message-level security mechanisms. If you have someone at OGF and are interested in more detail, I will be presenting the OGSA-SP documents at the OGSA Express Authentication Security Profile session on Thursday afternoon, 3:15 pm - 4:45 pm, and would enjoy discussing them further. Cheers, Duane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Sill" < <mailto:Alan.Sill@ttu.edu> Alan.Sill(a)ttu.edu> To: "Duane Merrill" < <mailto:dgm4d@virginia.edu> dgm4d(a)virginia.edu>; "Andrew Grimshaw" < <mailto:grimshaw@virginia.edu> grimshaw(a)virginia.edu> Cc: "Alan Sill" < <mailto:Alan.Sill@ttu.edu> Alan.Sill(a)ttu.edu>; "Shannon Hastings" < <mailto:hastings@BMI.OSU.EDU> hastings(a)BMI.OSU.EDU>; "Hiro Kishimoto" < <mailto:hiro.kishimoto@jp.fujitsu.com> hiro.kishimoto(a)jp.fujitsu.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: OGSA-WG activities on the Express Profile > Duane and Andrew, > > Can you catch us up, including Shannon, on the activities with > respect to the Express Profile and related documents, as they might > relate to the use case described below? Shannon works with the > CaGrid group, and says that they have someone out at OGF who might be > able to interact with you about this if you are there. Meanwhile, a > few web links and a status update as regards the use case documents > and draft profile might be useful. > > Thanks, > Alan > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Shannon Hastings < <mailto:hastings@BMI.OSU.EDU> hastings(a)BMI.OSU.EDU> >> Date: October 16, 2007 12:43:22 PM CDT >> To: <mailto:CAGRID_USERS-L@LIST.NIH.GOV> CAGRID_USERS-L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV >> Subject: Re: operations added by Introduce >> Reply-To: caGrid Users discussion Forum < <mailto:CAGRID_USERS-L@LIST.NIH.GOV> CAGRID_USERS-L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV> >> >> Please do. We have recently become aware of another similar effort >> within the grouper group. Maybe this is the same effort. Steve is >> out >> at OGF this week so when he gets this email he can try to find those >> folks as well. >> >> Thanks, >> Shannon >> >> >> Shannon Hastings >> co-Director >> Software Research Institute >> Department of Biomedical Informatics >> Ohio State University >> >> Office: (614) 292-9461 >> Lab: (614) 292-9845 >> <mailto:hastings@bmi.osu.edu> hastings(a)bmi.osu.edu >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: caGrid Users discussion Forum [mailto:CAGRID_USERS- >> <mailto:L@LIST.NIH.GOV> L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV] >> On Behalf Of Alan Sill >> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:27 PM >> To: <mailto:CAGRID_USERS-L@LIST.NIH.GOV> CAGRID_USERS-L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV >> Subject: Re: operations added by Introduce >> >> FYI, there is now an effort to define an architecture for >> specification, advertising and discovery of security requirements of >> exactly this nature in the context of the OGSA-WG "Express Profile" >> as a profile under WS-Security. If you are interested in this work, >> I would be happy to put you in touch with members of that group so >> you can read the profiles and use cases, and comment. >> >> Thanks, >> Alan >> >> On Oct 16, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Shannon Hastings wrote: >> >>> To be even more specific just in case you are concerned about >>> security. >>> >>> getServiceSecurityMetadata is an operation that is always public on a >>> service. What it does is tell any client what it required to talk to >>> the service. It contains no more information than that. It >>> enables a >>> client to know that he cannot talk to the service without a using TLS >>> for example. >>> >>> The other three methods are part of the wsrf spec regarding resource >>> property access. These methods will use whatever security setting >>> you >>> put on your service. If you say that your service is secure and set >>> authorization requirements at he service level in introduce, than >>> these >>> methods will also inherit this security. So you have total >>> control of >>> whether your resource properties are available. Now keep in mind, >>> there >>> are resource properties of the service, not the service properties >>> (which should be used for internal configuration and are not >>> available >>> through any operations). >>> >>> >>> >>> Shannon Hastings >>> co-Director >>> Software Research Institute >>> Department of Biomedical Informatics >>> Ohio State University >>> >>> Office: (614) 292-9461 >>> Lab: (614) 292-9845 >>> <mailto:hastings@bmi.osu.edu> hastings(a)bmi.osu.edu >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: caGrid Users discussion Forum [mailto:CAGRID_USERS- >>> <mailto:L@LIST.NIH.GOV> L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV] >>> On Behalf Of Shannon Hastings >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:41 AM >>> To: <mailto:CAGRID_USERS-L@LIST.NIH.GOV> CAGRID_USERS-L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV >>> Subject: Re: operations added by Introduce >>> >>> These are required operations of any caGrid service. They are >>> provide >>> access to querying the resource properties of the main service as >>> well >>> as the security configuration of the service. This security >>> information >>> is just metadata about the requirements needed to connect to the >>> service. This enables a client to know that it will need a >>> certificate, >>> or will need to use SSL. You should not disable these operations. >>> For >>> more information on them. The resource property ones are related >>> to the >>> WS specifications and the getSecurityMetadata is a caGrid only >>> operation >>> which you can read about at caGrid.org in the Introduce technical >>> guide. >>> >>> Shannon >>> >>> >>> Shannon Hastings >>> co-Director >>> Software Research Institute >>> Department of Biomedical Informatics >>> Ohio State University >>> >>> Office: (614) 292-9461 >>> Lab: (614) 292-9845 >>> <mailto:hastings@bmi.osu.edu> hastings(a)bmi.osu.edu >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: caGrid Users discussion Forum [mailto:CAGRID_USERS- >>> <mailto:L@LIST.NIH.GOV> L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV] >>> On Behalf Of Joel Schneider >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:27 AM >>> To: <mailto:CAGRID_USERS-L@LIST.NIH.GOV> CAGRID_USERS-L(a)LIST.NIH.GOV >>> Subject: operations added by Introduce >>> >>> I noticed that a service created using Introduce has the following >>> four operations, in addition to the operations I defined by hand: >>> >>> getResourceProperty >>> getMultipleResourceProperties >>> queryResourceProperties >>> getServiceSecurityMetadata >>> >>> This service in question was originally created using Introduce >>> 1.0 as >>> an analytical service, and later migrated to Introduce 1.1. >>> >>> The presence of these additional operations raises a number of >>> questions. >>> >>> 1) What is the purpose of the additional operations? >>> >>> 2) If these operations are not required by my service, is there an >>> easy >>> or recommended way to remove or disable them? >>> >>> 3) From a security perspective, I'm concerned these operations might >>> expose the service's ServiceConfiguration to a remote user. Is >>> that >>> the case? (Where is the code which implements these operations?) >>> >>> Help with these questions would be much appreciated. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Joel >>> >>> -- >>> Joel Schneider National Marrow Donor Program >>> Software Developer (Contractor) 3001 Broadway Street NE >>> phone: 612-617-8321 Minneapolis, MN 55413 >>> email: <mailto:jschneid@nmdp.org> jschneid(a)nmdp.org <http://www.marrow.org/> http://www.marrow.org/ > > Alan Sill, Ph.D > TIGRE Senior Scientist, High Performance Computing Center > Adjunct Professor of Physics > TTU > > ==================================================================== > : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : > : e-mail: <mailto:Alan.Sill@ttu.edu> Alan.Sill(a)ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : > ==================================================================== >

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OGSA-WG sessions on Thursday and F2F meeting on Friday
by Hiro Kishimoto 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

Hi all, As you already know, OGSA-WG will have five consecutive sessions all at Leonesa II room on the 1st floor on Thursday, and full day F2F meeting at Blewett suite on the 7th floor on Friday. http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ogsa.wg%40gmail.com If you want to join these sessions by phone, please let me know session name(s) and skype name (if you have) in advance. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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OGSA roadmap v1.1: WG final call for comments
by Hiro Kishimoto 15 Oct '07

15 Oct '07

Hi all, The OGSA roadmap v1.1 is now available for any final comments before submission to the OGF Editor. You'll find a copy of this document (draft 28) at https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 If you have any comments, please bring them to OGSA-WG F2F general session on this Friday 2:30-4pm or send an email by EoB Friday, October 19. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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OGSA Glossary submitted to OGF Editor
by Treadwell, Jem 15 Oct '07

15 Oct '07

Hi, I've uploaded drafts 009 and 010 of the Glossary v1.6 to GridForge: Draft 009 has changes made following Final Call, and Draft 010 is identical, but has all the changes accepted to give us a clean base for Public Comment. If you want to see how the document has changed from v1.5, please take a look at Draft 009. I've also uploaded Draft 010 to the Editor Project, for Editor Review. Greg, I think I did this correctly, but if you need me to do anything else please let me know. Note that I resolved the tracker I opened with Paul's comment by changing the CIM definition to refer to system management, rather than resource management. Some Data definitions are still being finalized within the OGSA-D working group, and I expect to bring those into alignment following public comment. Thanks for all the contributions and support! - Jem Jem Treadwell Software Engineer HP ESS Software 856.638.6021 office | 856.638.6190 fax | jem.treadwell(a)hp.com<mailto:jem.treadwell@hp.com> 6000 Irwin Road | Mount Laurel | NJ 08054 http://www.hp.com/go/vse [cid:image001.jpg@01C80C15.5D36D420]<http://www.hp.com/go/software>

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***SPAM*** IdM talk at Security Area Meeting
by Blair Dillaway 14 Oct '07

14 Oct '07

Hi All, I wanted to make sure the OGSA WG and HPCP WG members were aware of the invited talk we'll have at the Security Area meeting on Monday, the 15th, at 3:15PM in the Portland Room. Mike Jones, Microsoft's Director of Identity Partnerships, has agreed to join us to discuss Identity standards activity occurring outside the OGF and on-going efforts to ensure broad interoperability. Those of you who are interested in identity management, federations, and authentication should find this interesting. Regards, Blair Dillaway

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OGSA-DAI workshop at OGF21
by Mario Antonioletti 12 Oct '07

12 Oct '07

Hi, Apologies if you receive this multiple time. This originates from Richard Sinnott the OGSA-DAI User Group chair. ................. Dear All, I am putting a workshop at OGF21 together which you may wish to attend. The basic idea is to consider the complete spectrum of data work across OGF, from the higher level vision being defined by the OGSA data architecture group; the data standards being produced such as DAIS and ByteIO; the technologies realising these standards such as OGSA-DAIv3 and then to the end user developers trying to building applications with these technologies. Think of it as microcosm of OGF as a whole. This workshop will take place at OGF21 in the Leonesa-1 room on Tuesday from 3-4.30pm. The agenda for the workshop is: 3pm INTRODUCTION - Richard Sinnott (NeSC Glasgow) 3.05pm The BIG PICTURE::OGSA Data architecture in a nutshell - Allan Luniewski (IBM) 3.25pm THE STANDARDS::OGSA Data standards (DAIS/ByteIO) - Ally Hume (EPCC) 3.45pm THE DEVELOPERS::Applying OGSA-DAIv3 in the Clinical Domain - A.Stell (NeSC Glasgow) 4.0pm WRAP UP/DISCUSSION 4.30pm CLOSE If like me you get a little lost in how OGF the different activities hang together, the idea behind this workshop is to provide a snapshot of what is going on and a reality check of the work in the data area. Rich -- Professor Richard O. Sinnott Technical Director National e-Science Centre University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ Tel: +44-(0)141-330-8606 Fax: -8625 Mob: 0795-2376627 Email: r.sinnott(a)nesc.gla.ac.uk

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Teleconference minutes - 11 October 2007 - Service level terms/Workflow
by Andreas Savva 12 Oct '07

12 Oct '07

Minutes are on gridforge: Service level terms: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14808 Workflow: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14809 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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[Invitation] OGSA workflow @ 2007-10-11 09:00 - 10:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 10 Oct '07

10 Oct '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: OGSA workflow Time: 2007-10-11 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1715 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Agenda bashing 2) workflow discussion (Steve McGough) Workflow session proper Suggestion: when surveying workflow systems, keep to web services based workflows (i.e., those can be accessed as web services and which can consume web services). It was observed, in an opposing view, that task based workflows are important to JSDL but are not part of (current) web services based workflows. 3) AOB Minutes approval - Aug. 9 call: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/14723 - Aug. 14 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/14725 Action Item review - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=dGwyNTZzMG5jaXB2aWNpbX… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Service Level Term @ 2007-10-11 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 10 Oct '07

10 Oct '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Service Level Term Time: 2007-10-11 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Agenda bashing 2) Sample use case (Steve) Steve McGough to set up wiki for the use cases. Define some simple use cases to demonstrate service level terms. o Approx. one page per service describing activity, the service terms, implementation, etc. o Cover: BES (Donal), ByteIO (Andrew/Mark), DMI (Michel) o Issues: Advertising, compensation, payment, repudiation, external, quality of experience Andrew's slide at OGF20 BoF - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14737 3) AoB Minutes approval OGF20 BoF: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14738 June 14: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14614 Aug. 15 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14730 Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NnBicGpudG5iaDRtaGZyaG… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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IEEE TASE special issue on "Scientific Workflow Management and Applications"
by Jinjun Chen 05 Oct '07

05 Oct '07

Call for papers- Special Issue in IEEE Trans. On Automation Science and Engineering about "Scientific Workflow Management and Applications" - http://www.swinflow.org/si/t-ase.htm. Scientific workflow is a new special type of workflow that often underlies many large-scale complex e-science applications such as climate modeling, structural biology and chemistry, medical surgery or disaster recovery simulation. Compared with business workflows, scientific workflow has special features such as computation, data or transaction intensity, less human interaction, and a large number of activities. Some emerging computing infrastructures such as grid computing with powerful computing and resource sharing capabilities present the potential for accommodating those special features. Currently, many efforts are being on this new workflow area, and workshops such as WaGe07, WORKS07, and NSF funded workshop on challenges of scientific workflows have been or are being held to explore scientific workflow issues. Gradually, research results are published and several scientific workflow management systems such as Gridbus workflow, SwinDeW-G, Kepler and Taverna are developed or evolved from existing systems. However, in general, research and development in scientific workflow management are still in their infancy with obscure knowledge of scientific workflow specific features and techniques. This special issue aims to systematically investigate and shape the special features, challenges and new techniques of scientific workflows as well as corresponding applications and underlying computing infrastructures. Original and unpublished high-quality research results are solicited to explore and boost the new area. The topics for contributions include, but are not limited to: * Special features of scientific workflows and their hints on new techniques * Scientific workflow modeling, execution and scheduling * Formal representation, scientific workflow patterns * Control flows and data flows in scientific workflows * Web/grid services based scientific workflows * Application programming interface and Graphical user interface * Scientific workflow verification and validation * Exception handling, Quality of Service, performance and security issues in scientific workflows * Underlying infrastructures targeting scientific workflow support * Real-world scientific workflow applications Important Dates March 31, 2008 Paper submission deadline July 31, 2008 Completion of the first round review November 30, 2008 Completion of the second round review January 15, 2009 Final manuscript due July 2009 Tentative publication date Paper Submission All papers are to be submitted through the Manuscript Central for T-ASE at http://mc.manuscriptcentral.com/t-ase. Please select Special Issue under Manuscript Category of your submission. All manuscripts must be prepared according to the IEEE T-ASE publication guidelines http://www.engr.uconn.edu/~ieeetase/. Papers will be reviewed following the standard IEEE T-ASE review process. Please address inquiries to jchen(a)ict.swin.edu.au. Guest Editors Jinjun Chen Email: jchen(a)ict.swin.edu.au Swinburne University of Technology, Australia Rajkumar Buyya The University of Melbourne, Australia Email: raj(a)csse.unimelb.edu.au W.M.P. van der Aalst Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Email: w.m.p.v.d.aalst(a)tue.nl Michael Rosemann Queensland University of Technology, Australia Email: m.rosemann(a)qut.edu.au Bertram Ludäscher University of California at Davis, USA Email: ludaesch(a)ucdavis.edu Yun Yang Swinburne University of Technology, Australia Email: yyang(a)ict.swin.edu.au Carole Goble University of Manchester, UK Email: carole.goble(a)manchester.ac.uk Best wishes, Jinjun ------ Dr. Jinjun Chen Lecturer in Information Technology CITR - Centre for Information Technology Research Faculty of Information and Communication Technologies Swinburne University of Technology, Hawthorn, Melbourne, Victoria 3122, Australia. Tel: +61 3 9214 8739 Fax: +61 3 9819 0823 Office: EN508a, Engineering Building, Hawthorn Campus Email: jchen(a)ict.swin.edu.au URL: http://www.ict.swin.edu.au/personal/jchen http://www.swinflow.org/~jchen/

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FW: New entry requirements for Japan Travel
by Andrew Grimshaw 04 Oct '07

04 Oct '07

All, My brother sent me this. Is what's good for the goose good for the gander? New Japan Travel Requirements Effective 11/23/07 Japan has recently announced a policy change regarding entry at border crossings for Non-Japanese citizens which will go into effect November 23, 2007. This policy change will affect ALL non-Japanese citizens arriving in Japan regardless of travel purpose, duration of stay or previous entries (except for those traveling on diplomatic or special government related clearance). All travelers will be fingerprinted and photographed upon entry through Japanese Immigration. Travelers who refuse to be subject to fingerprinting and photography will be refused entry and immediately deported or possibly detained. As some travelers feel uncomfortable giving up any more information than necessary when traveling abroad, I would advise disclosure of this policy to anyone traveling to Japan as hesitation or refusal may likely turn into a complicated and expensive situation. What we don't know is how this will effect entry times. There is an expectation that this policy change will result in delays as immigration officers explain the new policy to travelers who are unaware of it. I would expect that they will increase staffing and provide handouts for travelers upon arrival in the terminal or otherwise inform people of the new policy, but expect this to cause delays in entry, limo services, etc as delays tend to create a domino effect.

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Call cancelled
by Andreas Savva 04 Oct '07

04 Oct '07

The Information Services call is canceled. Thanks to Shiraz and Zack for turning up and waiting with me for 20 minutes. Andreas

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OGSA Glossary v1.6: Final call for comments
by Treadwell, Jem 04 Oct '07

04 Oct '07

Hi, The OGSA Glossary v1.6 is now available for any final comments before submission to the OGF Editor. You'll find a copy of the document (draft 8) at http://tinyurl.com/2t4on2. If you have comments please let me have them by the end of Sunday, October 7th. Thanks! - Jem Jem Treadwell Software Engineer HP ESS Software 856.638.6021 office | 856.638.6190 fax | jem.treadwell(a)hp.com 6000 Irwin Road | Mount Laurel | NJ 08054 http://www.hp.com/go/vse <http://www.hp.com/go/software>

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Reminder: OGSA Data Architecture in Public Comment
by Mario Antonioletti 02 Oct '07

02 Oct '07

Hi, This is a short reminder to state that the OGSA Data Architecture is currently undergoing its public comment phase. It is important to get feedback on this document, to let us know if you think anything has been missed out, is wrong or that it is all ok. You can get to the document and comment page from: http://www.ogf.org/gf/docs/?public_comment Thanks in advance, Mario +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Mario Antonioletti:EPCC,JCMB,The King's Buildings,Edinburgh EH9 3JZ. | |Tel:0131 650 5141|mario@epcc.ed.ac.uk|http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/~mario/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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[Invitation] Information service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) @ 2007-10-04 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 02 Oct '07

02 Oct '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Information service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) Time: 2007-10-04 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Agenda bashing 2) Information Services (Felix Ehm) - Identify major usecases - Discuss Information services architecture Laurence and Felix provided document covering the problem description, experience in GIN, overview of existing systems, generalized system and suggested areas for standardization. - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14692 3) Any other business Minutes approval Aug 2 call: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14724 Aug. 15 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14727 Action Item review - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=MTdhYjFkOGpzcjA1dDltMj… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Glossary draft 007 uploaded
by Treadwell, Jem 01 Oct '07

01 Oct '07

Hi, In preparation for tonight's call I've uploaded a new draft (007) of the OGSA Glossary. You can find it at http://tinyurl.com/379fkb. The plan is to send the Glossary for final call after today's review. Thanks, - Jem Jem Treadwell Software Engineer HP ESS Software 856.638.6021 office | 856.638.6190 fax | jem.treadwell(a)hp.com 6000 Irwin Road | Mount Laurel | NJ 08054 http://www.hp.com/go/vse <http://www.hp.com/go/software>

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[Invitation] OGSA primer @ 2007-10-01 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 28 Sep '07

28 Sep '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: OGSA primer Time: 2007-10-01 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1715 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Agenda bashing 2) OGSA primer review (Andrew) In the last revision, most of the pieces are now in place. We still need sections 3.4-3.7, and of course reviews by people. The section on the data center use case is waiting for whoever wanted it in there to write it. The adoption section I'd like to talk about in a conference call to make sure it is a) correct, and b) saying what we want it to say. Summary will wait till the end. The latest draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14408 5) Any other business Minutes approval Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bXBpY21tdHBnanFlcWQ1NW… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Glossary / Roadmap / Logistics @ 2007-10-01 17:00 - 18:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 28 Sep '07

28 Sep '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Glossary / Roadmap / Logistics Time: 2007-10-01 17:00 - 18:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Agenda bashing 2) OGSA Glossary v1.6 final text review (Jem, 15 min) The latest glossary draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13938 Issue tracker - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/tracker/do/listArtifacts/projects.ogsa-wg/tr… 3) OGSA roadmap v1.1 final text review (Chris, 15 min) The latest glossary draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/ Issue tracker - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/tracker/do/listArtifacts/projects.ogsa-wg/tr… 4) proposal for minute taking (Andreas, 15 min) Andreas explains a template for minutes. 5) OGSA registered trademark use (Hiro, 15 min) usage guideline draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1856 Do we want to; (1) trademark the phrase "Open Grid Service Architecture" as well? (2) register these in the UK and Japan also? 6) OGF21 and Friday F2F meeting update (Hiro, if any) Logistics, agenda, invite whom 7) Any other Business Minutes approval July 12: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14664 Aug. 13 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14710 Action Item review - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=MTc5djU2bzNlOTR0YmVuMD… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Last Call: revised 'Execution Environment & Basic Execution Service Model in OGSA Grids
by Ellen Stokes 27 Sep '07

27 Sep '07

This is LAST CALL for 'Execution Environment & Basic Execution Service Model in OGSA Grids' document. It contains the resolution of the public comments and review of those resolutions by the OGSA workgroup during telecon 9/27. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14004?nav=1 Send any comments on these resolutions by replying to this email no later than end of day Thursday October 4. Thanks. Ellen

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[Reminder] Info/data modeling @ 2007-09-27 09:00 - 10:00 ()
by Google Calendar 26 Sep '07

26 Sep '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Info/data modeling Time: 2007-09-27 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1715 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Agenda bashing 2) Public comments review for EE and BES model doc (30 min) Ellen has updated the document per the comments received during the public comment period. Here's the link to see the public comments and their resolution: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/discussion/do/listTopics/projects.ggf-editor… Here's the link the updated document: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14004?nav=1 She has also made 2 other changes: (1) updated OGSA in the title to reflect that it is now a registered trademark. (2) asked Joel Repolgle to get a GFD number assigned to Fred's Guidelines document so I can complete the reference in the reference section of my document. 3) info/data model architecture (if available) https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13726 4) OGF21 info/data session (20 min) http://www.ogf.org/gf/session_request/editreq.php?id=952 Minutes approval July 26 telcon: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14693 Aug. 13 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14711 Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YXIwMGxuOHNvNTFzaTIxbz… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Reminder] OGSA profile interop @ 2007-09-27 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Google Calendar 26 Sep '07

26 Sep '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: OGSA profile interop Time: 2007-09-27 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Agenda bashing 2) OGSA interop festa (Dave Snelling) 3) AoB Minutes approval Aug. 2nd telcon: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14726 Aug. 15th F2F: Steve McGaugh Action Item review - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=Z2w0NzM2Nzd1MWlzZ2ljdD… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] OGSA profile interop @ 2007-09-27 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 25 Sep '07

25 Sep '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: OGSA profile interop Time: 2007-09-27 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Agenda bashing 2) OGSA interop festa (Dave Snelling) 3) AoB Minutes approval Aug. 2nd telcon: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14726 Aug. 15th F2F: Steve McGaugh Action Item review - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=Z2w0NzM2Nzd1MWlzZ2ljdD… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Updated Invitation] Info/data modeling @ 2007-09-27 09:00 - 10:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 25 Sep '07

25 Sep '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: Info/data modeling Time: 2007-09-27 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1715 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Agenda bashing 2) Public comments review for EE and BES model doc (30 min) Ellen has updated the document per the comments received during the public comment period. Here's the link to see the public comments and their resolution: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/discussion/do/listTopics/projects.ggf-editor… Here's the link the updated document: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14004?nav=1 She has also made 2 other changes: (1) updated OGSA in the title to reflect that it is now a registered trademark. (2) asked Joel Repolgle to get a GFD number assigned to Fred's Guidelines document so I can complete the reference in the reference section of my document. 3) info/data model architecture (if available) https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13726 4) OGF21 info/data session (20 min) http://www.ogf.org/gf/session_request/editreq.php?id=952 Minutes approval July 26 telcon: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14693 Aug. 13 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14711 Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YXIwMGxuOHNvNTFzaTIxbz… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Info/data modeling @ 2007-09-27 09:00 - 10:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 25 Sep '07

25 Sep '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Info/data modeling Time: 2007-09-27 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1715 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Agenda bashing 2) Public comments review for EE and BES model doc (30 min) Ellen has updated the document per the comments received during the public comment period. Here's the link to see the public comments and their resolution: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/discussion/do/listTopics/projects.ggf-editor… Here's the link the updated document: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14004?nav=1 She has also made 2 other changes: (1) updated OGSA in the title to reflect that it is now a registered trademark. (2) asked Joel Repolgle to get a GFD number assigned to Fred's Guidelines document so I can complete the reference in the reference section of my document. 3) info/data model architecture (if available) https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13726 4) OGF21 info/data session (20 min) http://www.ogf.org/gf/session_request/editreq.php?id=952 Minutes approval July 26 telcon: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14693 Aug. 13 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14711 Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YXIwMGxuOHNvNTFzaTIxbz… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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updated 'Execution Environment & BES Model in OGSA Grids' document per public comment review
by Ellen Stokes 25 Sep '07

25 Sep '07

Folks, I've updated the referenced document (in the subject of this email) per the comments received during the public comment period. Here's the link to see the public comments and their resolution: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/discussion/do/listTopics/projects.ggf-editor… Here's the link the updated document: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14004?nav=1 I've also made 2 other changes: (1) updated OGSA in the title to reflect that it is now a registered trademark. (2) asked Joel Repolgle to get a GFD number assigned to Fred's Guidelines document so I can complete the reference in the reference section of my document. We'll be reviewing this on the OGSA call this Thurs Sep 27 @ 9am Central....details on the OGSA workgroup GridForge wiki. Ellen

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Re: [ogsa-wg] OGSA Information Services
by Hiro Kishimoto 24 Sep '07

24 Sep '07

Hi all, Discussion material for Information Services by Laurence Field and Felix Ehm is now on the GridForge. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14692 > This document covers the problem description, experience in GIN, > overview of existing systems, generalized system and suggested > areas for standardization. Please have a look before the call today. Felix Ehm will lead the discussion. Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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OGSA Data Architecture Now in Public Comment
by Hiro Kishimoto 24 Sep '07

24 Sep '07

Per Allen's request, I am forwarding his message to ogsa-wg mailing list. The OGSA Data Architecture architecture document has been placed into its 30 day public comment period. Please take a look at it and submit your comments, even if it is little more than "I read it". Thanks. Allen Luniewski, co-chair OGSA Data Architecture Working Group IBM Cross Brand Services IBM Silicon Valley Laboratory 555 Bailey Ave. San Jose, CA 95141 408-463-2255 408-930-1844 (mobile) -- ogsa-d-wg mailing list ogsa-d-wg(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-d-wg

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Re: [ogsa-wg] [OGSA-D-WG] OGSA Data Architecture Now in Public Comment
by Mario Antonioletti 24 Sep '07

24 Sep '07

Hi, For the record you can make your public comments at: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/discussion/do/listTopics/projects.ggf-editor/… and you have to be logged in in order to be able to do this. Happy commenting ... Mario On Sun, 23 Sep 2007, Allen Luniewski wrote: > > The OGSA Data Architecture architecture document has been placed into its > 30 day public comment period. Please take a look at it and submit your > comments, even if it is little more than "I read it". > > Thanks. > > Allen Luniewski, co-chair OGSA Data Architecture Working Group > > IBM Cross Brand Services > IBM Silicon Valley Laboratory > 555 Bailey Ave. > San Jose, CA 95141 > > 408-463-2255 > 408-930-1844 (mobile) +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Mario Antonioletti:EPCC,JCMB,The King's Buildings,Edinburgh EH9 3JZ. | |Tel:0131 650 5141|mario@epcc.ed.ac.uk|http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/~mario/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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SLA terms for data services
by Hiro Kishimoto 22 Sep '07

22 Sep '07

Hi Andrew, Mark, and Steve, OGSA-Data WG has a suggested service level terms (they call policies) in their OGSA data architecture document. - Throughput: the number of access requests that can be satisfied per unit time. - Response time: the time allowed to satisfy an access request. - Availability: the percentage of time that the service must be up. - Recovery time: time allowed for the service to recover from a failure. - Data resiliency: a specification of the effort the service should make to ensure that data is not lost in the face of failures. - Access accuracy: if the primary source of some data is not available, how should the service act? Report an error? Find an alternate source (with potentially stale data)? Return partial answers? Another term for this policy might be degradation of answers. - Currency of data: can the data used by the service, and the data returned, be out of date? If so, by how much? I've put them on GridForge SLT design team wiki page for future reference. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Re: [ogsa-wg] OGSA roadmap v1.1
by Hiro Kishimoto 21 Sep '07

21 Sep '07

Hi Chris, New version and corresponding spreadsheet is now on the GridForge. It includes the following modifications: - Accept confirmed modifications, remove resolved comments, and close most of document tracker entries. - Add spec dependency table for RSS and DMI specs. - Update spec dependency table for ACS, HPCP, BSP-SA, SP-SS, SP-ST, and Summary table in Appendix A. - OGSA is now (r) instead of (tm) https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Please double check if these changes are ok for you. Also, please confirm remaining three tracker entries are properly incorporated in this version. Then I will make them "closed." https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/artf5980 https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/artf5974 https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/artf5971 If everything is ok, I will clean up the document and make a WG final call on the mailing list shortly. Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:OGSA roadmap From: Christopher T Jordan <ctjordan(a)sdsc.edu> To: Hiro Kishimoto <hiro.kishimoto(a)jp.fujitsu.com> Cc: Michael Behrens <michael.behrens(a)r2ad.com>, Savva Andreas <andreas.savva(a)jp.fujitsu.com>, Christopher T Jordan <ctjordan(a)sdsc.edu> Date: 2007/09/11 8:52 > > Hiro, > > No problem. I'll get a new draft uploaded and let you know when I am > passing the pen. > > Thanks. > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Hiro Kishimoto wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> >> We have chatted document status at OGSA general call today. >> >> Before make an OGSA roadmap v1.1 final call for OGF Editor >> submission on the mailing list, I want to have a pen once again if >> you are ok. >> >> Can you upload revise version to the GridForge or send it to me by >> email? >> >> We are still waiting for a new session for GLUE spec but if they >> cannot make on time, we will leave it for public comments. >> >> Thanks, >> >

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OGSA trademark is now fully registered
by Hiro Kishimoto 21 Sep '07

21 Sep '07

Hi all, At last, OGSA trademark is fully registered. From now forward, we should use (R) instead of (TM). Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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minutes from today's session
by Donal K. Fellows 20 Sep '07

20 Sep '07

Minutes for EMS Scenarios 1.1 session online at: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14775?nav=1 Donal.

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RNS experiences document
by Andrew Grimshaw 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

All, We have done an implementation of RNS and have several observations before we write our experiences document. First, the version of the document I am referring to is the September 22, 2006 version. p.4 Add function We're fine with this BUT we had to make some assumptions. You'll note that the function returns an EPR. Our interpretation was: In the case that no EPR was passed in, i.e., I'm creating and linking a new directory, the function is to return an EPR of a new directory resource. If the case that an EPR was passed in, i.e., I'm adding a link to an existing EPR, the EPR that was passed in is returned. We'll call this the "obvious" implementation An alternative interpretation is that a new resource is created for the DIRECTORY ENTRY ITSELF. In this case the EPR of this entry is returned. We'll call this the "entry" implementation. Note that if the "entry" implementation is used, that after the "add" is performed there is no way to subsequently look up or find the EPR of the entry! We therefore use the "obvious" implementation. Both the "entry" and "obvious" implementations have ramifications and/or inconsistencies with later parts of the spec. Note on page 7 the pseudo schema for an entry (returned by "list") <rns:entry> <rns:entry_name> xsd:string </rns:entry_name> {any}* <rns:entry_reference> wsa:EndpointReferenceType </rns:entry_reference> </rns:entry>* This is consistent with our "obvious" interpretation. One of the things we have observed is that for very large directories this may create messages that are larger than the SOAP max - we may need to extend with an iterator. Also note on page 10 the query operation (which takes NO parameters) and returns <rns:EntryProperties> <rns:entry_parent> wsa:EndpointReferenceType </rns:entry_parent> <rns:entry_name> xsd:string </rns:entry_name> {any}* <rns:entry_reference> wsa:EndpointReferenceType </rns:entry_reference> </rns:EntryProperties> The implication of query is that the "entry" interpretation is being using because there is no way to tell the directory which entry to return data about therefore the SOAP headers contain the target in the form of a ws-addressing epr. In other words - this query seems to be targeted to an entry rather than a directory. The objective of the "entry" implementation seems to be to work with query. The only stuff that seems to be added is the concept on a "entry parent" EPR - which in our opinion could be placed in the {any}* part if needed (the whole notion of parents is a bit problematic; it is likely to be a list not a singleton, and using it for garbage collection is difficult in a distributed system.) Thus, query seems mostly to be a highly specific form of list. Thus, we have chosen the "obvious" implementation. That means that the query operation makes no sense by itself (beyond "list") and we have not implemented it. Page 8, move Move takes two parameters, a target directory and a "new" name for the entry, i.e., file1. This seems to imply an "entry" implementation. However, that means the client must be keeping track of the EPR's of the entries in order to do a move. That's the whole point of a directory services. Therefore, we believe that move should be an operation on a directory (i.e., the EPR of the directory is in the SOAP header) and take two parameters, the old name and the new name - in other words this is a rename. Finally, from a interoperability point of view the fact that the RNS spec does not include a normative specification of the schema/WSDL, we don't believe that it is likely for interoperable implementations to exist solely based on the spec. Modulo the above changes we have an implementation of RNS (we don't think that given the existing spec it is possible to completely implement RNS as specified) and a set of tools that interact with RNS name spaces, command line tools for ls, mkdir, etc, as well as a Linux file system software shim that intercepts file system calls and redirects (when appropriate) to RNS/ByteIO space. A

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[Reminder] EMS scenario 1.1 (Andreas Savva and Steven Newhouse) @ 2007-09-20 09:00 - 10:00 ()
by Google Calendar 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: EMS scenario 1.1 (Andreas Savva and Steven Newhouse) Time: 2007-09-20 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1715 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Agenda bashing 2) EMS scenarios 5) AoB Minutes approval Aug. 14 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14717 Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YWFzcDN2NmhwbnFyMDI0Yn… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] EMS scenario 1.1 (Andreas Savva and Steven Newhouse) @ 2007-09-20 09:00 - 10:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: EMS scenario 1.1 (Andreas Savva and Steven Newhouse) Time: 2007-09-20 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1715 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Agenda bashing 2) EMS scenarios 5) AoB Minutes approval Aug. 14 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14717 Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YWFzcDN2NmhwbnFyMDI0Yn… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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JSDL-WG - Activity schema requirements session at OGF21
by Andreas Savva 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

[With apologies for the massive cross-post... Do forward if I have missed anyone.] At OGF21 the JSDL-WG is planning a session on Activity schema requirements. JSDL addresses submission-time requirements but there is clearly a need for more. BES has taken a step forward in defining an ActivityDocument element that encapsulates a JSDL document; for use, for example, in the BES CreateActivity operation. In this session we'd like to explore current work and requirements and discuss how to move forward. So this session will be along the lines of an ad-hoc bof---presentations followed by discussion. We already have some presentations lined up but probably have room for more. If you would like to present at this session please send an email to either Steven McGough <asm(a)doc.ic.ac.uk> or myself. This session is scheduled for Wednesday (10/17) evening. http://www.ogf.org/gf/event_schedule/index.php?id=950 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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[Invitation] Express AuthN Profile @ 2007-09-17 17:00 - 18:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 18 Sep '07

18 Sep '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Express AuthN Profile Time: 2007-09-17 17:00 - 18:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Agenda bashing 2) OGSA Express AuthN profiles (Duane) Duane has uploaded revised profiles onto the GridForge - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spuc Changes of note: * Updates from Hiro's round of comments. * Fixed problem of identifying WSA headers for signing: added XPath expression to indicate all headers containing "IsReferenceParameter=true" attribute. * Fixed duplicate policy id issue with respect to supplemental input/output message protection policies. * Wordsmithing on introduction to "get to the point" quicker. * Other minor edits for clarity. We will review his latest draft, close remaining 10 issues, and make them ready for the WG last call. - Issue tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spsa - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spss - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spst 3) OGF21 EAP session plan Agenda, whom we invite? 4) Any other Business Minutes approval July 30 telcon: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14748 Aug. 30 telcon: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14747 Action Item review - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=Y2tsNTVoNmZsZHJhZW5qYT… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Latest draft
by Andrew Grimshaw 17 Sep '07

17 Sep '07

All, I uploaded to grid forge last week the latest draft of the primer. The early section have changed little, a short discussion of the factory pattern was added. The section on data was added, and it would be great if Dave Berry and Mark Morgan would comment on it - (anybody can - but those two in particular). I filled in two of the scenarios (section 4). Please look at those as well. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14763?nav=1 A

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Bugfix for containers doc
by Donal K. Fellows 17 Sep '07

17 Sep '07

Title should end "OGSA Grids", not "OGSA Grid". Reads better that way. Donal.

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[Invitation] General / Logistics @ 2007-09-17 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 17 Sep '07

17 Sep '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: General / Logistics Time: 2007-09-17 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1715 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Agenda bashing 2) Note taking guide (Andreas, 30 min) New note taker assignment rule - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Minutes template, useful information 3) OGF21 session schedule (Hiro, 20 min) Proposed sessions are o OGSA profiles Interop (David Snelling) o info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) o Workflow (Steve McGough) o Express Authentication Profiles (Duane Merrill) o Information Services (Laurence Field) ?? - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1834 - http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ogsa.wg%40gmail.com F2F meeting at the OGF hotel 4) OGSA Winter F2F update (Hiro) Fujitsu facilities are booked Dec. 10-12. (tentative) 5) AoB Minutes approval July 12: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14664 Aug. 13 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14710 Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YjlwcGR0OHAwbjQ5cjVrcH… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Updated Invitation] AuthZ-WG joint call (David Chadwick and Alan Sill) @ 2007-09-13 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: AuthZ-WG joint call (David Chadwick and Alan Sill) Time: 2007-09-13 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA AuthZ-WG update (David Chadwick) 3) OGSA-AuthN-Wg update (Alan Sill) Minutes approval June 21: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14630 Aug. 14 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14714 Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=ZDV2NWUxcWJ2NzY3cThjb2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Public comment period ends
by Hiro Kishimoto 12 Sep '07

12 Sep '07

Hi all, > Greg Newby: 09/11/2007 9:45 AM CDT > > Authors/editors: > > The tracker for public comments is here: > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/discussion/do/listTopics/projects. > ggf-editor/discussion.info_guidelines_for_ogsa_info_mo > > Please review comments, and respond in that tracker or this one. > When ready to submit the final document, indicate so in this tracker > or via email to the Editor. I ask Fred to look into these comments. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Public comment period ends
by Hiro Kishimoto 12 Sep '07

12 Sep '07

Hi all, > Authors/editors: please read and address comments, either in that > trackers or this one. Decide whether to adjust the final document. > When ready, post a note to this tracker, or email the Editor. Ellen will review and propose resolutions for these public comments next week. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Final call: OGSA Data Architecture
by Dave Berry 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

Dear all, The OGSA Data Architecture is, we believe, ready to submit for public comment. If you would like to review the document before we submit it, you can find the current draft at http://tinyurl.com/ypm4bv. Please give us any feedback by Tuesday September 18th (next week). Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre 15 South College Street, Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039 www.nesc.ac.uk <http://www.nesc.ac.uk/>

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[Invitation] AuthZ-WG joint call (David Chadwick and Alan Sill) @ 2007-09-13 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: AuthZ-WG joint call (David Chadwick and Alan Sill) Time: 2007-09-13 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA AuthZ-WG update (David Chadwick) 3) OGSA-AuthN-Wg update (Alan Sill) Minutes approval June 21: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14630 Aug. 14 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14714 Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=ZDV2NWUxcWJ2NzY3cThjb2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Reminder] General / Logistics @ 2007-09-10 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Google Calendar 09 Sep '07

09 Sep '07

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[Reminder] OGSA primer @ 2007-09-10 17:00 - 18:00 ()
by Google Calendar 09 Sep '07

09 Sep '07

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[Invitation] General / Logistics @ 2007-09-10 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 09 Sep '07

09 Sep '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: General / Logistics Time: 2007-09-10 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Calendar: You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NTY4OWZtaWg4NXIwcG5hcT… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] OGSA primer @ 2007-09-10 17:00 - 18:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 09 Sep '07

09 Sep '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: OGSA primer Time: 2007-09-10 17:00 - 18:00 (Central Time) Calendar: You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=dnVmdHVzdm9nazh0dTRlOX… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Re: [ogsa-wg] OGSA/OGF URI for non-bound or non-functional EPRs
by Dave Berry 01 Sep '07

01 Sep '07

In ther OGSA Data Architecture document we suggest that URI's are needed to name transport protocols, access interfaces, and query languages. I would be surprised if this list were exhaustive. ByteIO, of course, have made a start on naming SOAP transport protocols (SwA, MTOM and DIME). Dave. -----Original Message----- From: ogsa-wg-bounces(a)ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Andre Merzky Sent: 30 August 2007 12:01 To: Michel Drescher Cc: OGSA-DMI ML; OGSA-WG Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] OGSA/OGF URI for non-bound or non-functional EPRs Hi Michel, Quoting [Michel Drescher] (Aug 30 2007): > > Folks, > > - apologies for cross-posting - > > [...] > > Also, while we were discussing this matter on the last DMI call, we > came up with the idea whether it is feasible to pull together a couple > of interested people and create an OGF Community Practice document > that may be based on > GFD.84: "Standardised Namespaces for XML infosets in OGF" > (http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.84.pdf) and defines, at an OGF level, > standardized URIs for things such as > - non-bound EPRs (as discussed) > - Data transport protocol identifies (GridFTP, HTTP, FTP, SRB, RFT, ...) > - ... > > Any ideas or comments? The SAGA groups would happily consume such a document - at the moment, we leave all these specification to either the implementors or (worse) to the end users, and are not satisfied with that solution. Cheers, Andre. > Cheers, > Michel -- "XML is like violence: if it does not help, use more." -- ogsa-wg mailing list ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg

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OGSA/OGF URI for non-bound or non-functional EPRs
by Michel Drescher 30 Aug '07

30 Aug '07

Folks, - apologies for cross-posting - at the last OGSA-F2F, and during the follow-up weeks in the DMI WG we agreed upon and worked on a common URI for the wsa:Address field of an EPR that is either a) unbound to a service (late binding, from GenesisII @ UVa), or b) non-functional at all and merely meant as a container (OGSA-DMI 1.0) Attached is the latest draft of the OGSA-DMI specification containing the first attempt to standardize that URI. I would like to draw your attention to section 4.2.2.2 (page 10 ff.) and in particular to the description of "/dmi:DataEPR/wsa:Address". We would like to invite you to make comments on that section, and actually on the specification at large. Also, while we were discussing this matter on the last DMI call, we came up with the idea whether it is feasible to pull together a couple of interested people and create an OGF Community Practice document that may be based on GFD.84: "Standardised Namespaces for XML infosets in OGF" (http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.84.pdf) and defines, at an OGF level, standardized URIs for things such as - non-bound EPRs (as discussed) - Data transport protocol identifies (GridFTP, HTTP, FTP, SRB, RFT, ...) - ... Any ideas or comments? Cheers, Michel

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F2F after ogf21?
by Andrew Grimshaw 29 Aug '07

29 Aug '07

Is there an OGSA F2F on Friday after ogf? A

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[Invitation] Express AuthN Profile @ 2007-08-30 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 28 Aug '07

28 Aug '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Express AuthN Profile Time: 2007-08-30 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA Express AuthN profiles (Duane) Having a last-call vote the following week for progression to public comment Any comments/suggestions/issues that have cropped up now that we've been socializing and reading the documents with a sharper eye for detail - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spuc - Issue tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/isuc - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spsa - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spss - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spst Minutes approval July 30 telcon: (Chris Kantarjiev?) Aug. 14 F3F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14713 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=dG0wYnZmcXJvNmg4ZG10Zn… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Notes from OGSA roadmap call on August 27
by Hiro Kishimoto 28 Aug '07

28 Aug '07

Hi all, Notes from OGSA roadmap call on August 27. Also available on GridForge. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14741 Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto ---------------------------------------------------------------------- OGSA Teleconference - 27 August 2007 - roadmap ============================================== * Participants Chris Jordan (SDSC) Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu) Michael Behrens (R2AD, LLC) Minutes: Hiro Kishimoto * roadmap document final review Since we don't have a quorum, we've reviewed Chris's latest draft and issue tracker. Confirm and close issue #5842 and #5970. #5948: JSDL HPC Profile Application Extension, V1.0. GFD-R-P.111 should be added to reference table. #5645: Hiro will send text on NAREGI and BG to Chris. OGSA AuthN profiles refer to working group draft version of WS-I BSP. WS-I already published final material. Hiro to ask authors which version AuthN profiles refer to. * Next steps We will do the following on the mailing list. (1) Incorporate all necessary edits into the document and close all issues on tracker. (2) Accept all changes and clean up document (3) Make final call on the mailing list for editor submission

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Revised roadmap document
by Hiro Kishimoto 27 Aug '07

27 Aug '07

Hi all, Chris Jordan has made and uploaded revised roadmap draft onto the GridForge. We will review this draft at the call Today starting 6pm CDT. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Thanks Chris! Talk to you very soon, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Note Taker Proposal
by Hiro Kishimoto 27 Aug '07

27 Aug '07

Hi all, At the last F2F meeting in Sunnyvale, we've tried and succeed on new note taking system. Based on this experiment, we agreed propose new system to our tele-conference as well. In order to share note taking work, take a turn for each one hour slot. Designate from atop of OGSA-WG member list based on the following algorism: - You are exempt if you lead that session. - You are exempt if you pick another slot for note taking. - You are exempt if you are not on the call. - When you accept, your name move to the bottom of the list. - Guest and newbie will join observer list at first. In due time, he/she will become member. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Let's give it a try from this week. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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[Invitation] roadmap @ 2007-08-27 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 25 Aug '07

25 Aug '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: roadmap Time: 2007-08-27 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1715 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document FINAL review (Chris) roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 Minutes approval Aug. 6 telcon: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14704 Aug. 13 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14718 Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=b2Zta3V1a2lwNjFpMnQ2bG… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Updated Invitation] roadmap @ 2007-08-27 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 25 Aug '07

25 Aug '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: roadmap Time: 2007-08-27 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1715 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document FINAL review (Chris) roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 Minutes approval Aug. 6 telcon: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14704 Aug. 13 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14718 Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=b2Zta3V1a2lwNjFpMnQ2bG… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Slides presentation and minutes from OGF20 Service Level terms BoF
by Hiro Kishimoto 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

Hi all, As we discussed at the F2F last week, Mark Morgan asked Andrew to provide slides presentation and minutes from OGF20 Service Level terms BoF. These materials are now on GridForege OGSA-WG's document folder. Slide presentation: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14737 Minutes: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14738 I've asked Joel to put them on OGF20 online schedule also. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Schema location for OGSA BP1.0...
by Donal K. Fellows 19 Aug '07

19 Aug '07

I've been hacking away a bit more at the RSS schemas, and I found I had a small problem. I couldn't find the location of the XSD schema for OGSA Basic Profile 1.0; is it available online anywhere? Like that I'll be able to refer to it directly from my schema editor instead of needing to point things into my own filesystem... Donal.

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Newly Updated EAP Documents re: F2F Suggesions
by Duane George Merrill, III 16 Aug '07

16 Aug '07

I'd like to thank everyone for their participation in the Express Authentication Profile (OGSA Security Profile 2.0) session this week. The level of support behind this is great, and I appreciate everyone's suggestions and help with socializing these documents around. I've already posted a new version (007) of the three documents to GridForge that address the suggestions we discussed (e.g., the handful of minor nits, adding a "referenced specification status and adoption" chart, etc.) and a bunch of clarifications and other misc. edits. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.ogsa-wg/doc… Much appreciated, Duane

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Teleconference minutes: 2 and 9 August 2007: Info Services / Interop / Workflow
by Andreas Savva 15 Aug '07

15 Aug '07

With some delay the minutes from the August 2nd and August 9th teleconferences are now on gridforge: * Aug 9 - Workflow https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14723?nav=1 * Aug 2 - Info Services https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14724?nav=1 - Interop/Logistics https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14726?nav=1 -- Andreas Savva

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Minutes of today's OGSA-AuthN session
by Michel Drescher 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

... are up on gridforge: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14714?nav=1 Cheers, Michel

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Resource Selection Service Specification, Draft 5
by Donal K. Fellows 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

Hi everyone! I'm happy to announce that the fifth draft of the RSS specification is now available. I've fixed most of the critical issues; those that are left are really editorial things (e.g. fixing up references). The draft is available from: http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-rss-wg/draft5 The corresponding schema is available from: http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-rss-wg/schema Any problems? Please report them at: http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-rss-wg/openissues If there's anyone who hasn't received this message that you think needs to read it, please forward it to them. (But don't go silly; it doesn't need to be a full-blown Internet Chain Letter...) Donal Fellows (RSS chair).

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OGSA-WG August F2F meeting
by Hiro Kishimoto 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

Hi all, OGSA-WG F2F meeting will start Monday (Aug. 13) 1pm PDT. Please double check session schedules you will attend (The below Google Calender is shown in CDT instead of PDT). http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ogsa.wg%40gmail.com Also, please upload meeting materials to designated folder on GridForege or put hyperlinks in the calendar event. Meeting Materials and Minutes > Interim Meetings > OGSA-18 - 2007 August http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ogsa18 See you in SF bay area! -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Update OGSA roadmap v1.1 draft
by Hiro Kishimoto 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

Hi Chris, Thank you very much for very successful OGSA roadmap review session today. We are really close to its completion. I've uploaded updated roadmap draft onto GridForege as rev 021. Please take it from here and add the finishing touch on it. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 We will have really final review call on Aug. 27 (Monday). Thanks again, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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EMS Architecture Scenarios v1.0+
by Steven Newhouse 13 Aug '07

13 Aug '07

Where should we go next with EMS Architecture Scenarios? The original document (http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.106.pdf) considered scenarios relating to job execution at a known endpoint, an endpoint selected through RSS type mechanisms, and execution requiring post/pre deployment steps. Open Issues (as I see them!): 1. Progress on defining EPS (as part of RSS) has been slow and AFAIK there has not been much progress towards its submission into the document process. There is however a draft from April of the specification and from June of WSDL/XSD files - http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/projects.ogsa-rss-wg/docman.root.current_d…. This may not matter as work has progressed on the content of RSS - namely the information model and the activity in the GLUE-WG. 2. Review of GLUE information model. The BES specification defined some minimal requirements we should ensure that these have been taken on board by the GLUE-WG team - see http://forge.ogf.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.glue-wg/wiki/HomePage . Do we need more concrete scenarios from EMS to drive this... or are the GLUE scenarios sufficiently comprehensive? 3. Files (or more generally data?). The scenarios say nothing about file movement. The DMI-WG has progressed since then and has generated some scenarios that could for into a revision of this document. The latest draft (http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.ogsa-dmi-wg/…) and the some use cases (http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14666?nav=1 and http://www.ogf.org/OGF19/materials/505/Including%20Data%20in%20Simple%20Job…) are a starting point. Even some sequence diagrams (see https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/sfmain/do/downloadAttachment/projects.rm-wg/… and https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/sfmain/do/downloadAttachment/projects.rm-wg/…) from RM/GLUE discussions that should be reviewed for diffs against the current scenarios. 4. Deployment and Provisioning. Are ACS and CDDLM dead? Should we refactor around work in the Reference Model WG and experience on lightweight deployment experience from UVa and GenesisII (BTW - I'm sure there are other groups who could contribute here). Generally, having scenarios in the current version of the document using specs that are not developing and/or not going to be adopted is a concern to me. There is IMHO a clear benefit in having these sequence diagrams to inform other groups & incorporate their thinking into a single cohesive document. This should be one of our principals for future versions - not to expand into a massive sequence diagram repository but to keep a narrow focus on incremental scenarios in the EMS space. This would be a useful reference for many groups and help to show how the work going on in individual WGs fits together. Steven PS - Many thanks to the those who's documents, emails and thoughts have been collected here!

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Final review of OGSA Roadmap 1.1
by Christopher Jordan 11 Aug '07

11 Aug '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At the next F2F session, we will begin reviewing of the OGSA Roadmap 1.1 document in preparation for submission to the OGF editors. If you get a chance, please review the latest draft of the Roadmap document, available at: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733?nav=1 You may submit any comments you have to me ahead of time, or just bring notes to the session next week. Thanks. Chris Jordan Data Reliability Manager Digital Preservation Initiatives San Diego Supercomputer Center ctjordan(a)sdsc.edu 858.534.8347 http://del.icio.us/tensileacuity “Standards are like toothbrushes, everyone agrees that they’re a good idea but nobody wants to use anyone else’s.” -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFGt7E9PCVtcXn6kg8RApLtAJ9Rx38ilUflQ34JYg9UsH7JzB/mkgCfQ+70 JzKRgMpZhTl1l66Qy+/fTmQ= =HyXa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Integration of GLUE 2 and OGSA-BES
by Sergio Andreozzi 09 Aug '07

09 Aug '07

Hi everybody, in the context of the OMII-Europe project, we are preparing to contribute an implementation of GLUE 2 to be integrated into OGSA-BES implementations (info providers will be available for the OMII-Europe partners, nevertheless the work can be leveraged for other platforms). The idea is to implement the GLUE 2 specification draft that will be available by OGF 21. The aim is to have a prototype implementation to be showed during SuperComputing 2007. Here is a draft document of the possible implementation approaches. You are invited to have a look and contribute for suggestions: http://omii-europe.forge.cnaf.infn.it/jra2/glue/bes-glue-integration Last notice, I will be on holiday for the coming two weeks, therefore we will resume this topic starting from 27 Aug. Cheers, Sergio -- Sergio Andreozzi INFN-CNAF, Tel: +39 051 609 2860 Viale Berti Pichat, 6/2 Fax: +39 051 609 2746 40126 Bologna (Italy) Web: http://www.cnaf.infn.it/~andreozzi

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[Reminder] Workflow (Steve McGough and Michel Drescher) @ 2007-08-09 09:00 - 10:00 ()
by Google Calendar 08 Aug '07

08 Aug '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Workflow (Steve McGough and Michel Drescher) Time: 2007-08-09 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0809 Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1715 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing *** Detailed agenda TBD *** Minutes approval - July 26: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14702 Action Item review AI-0511b: Michel to pulla workflow strawman poposal together AI-0614a: Steven Newhouse will check whether Windows Workflow can also be used with CCS / BES style services AI-0614d: Steve McGough will compile the list and put it on the wiki AI-0614e: Steve McGough will look for the workflow material from the Berlin GGF AI-0726a: Show typical/existing use cases for cyclic dependency declarations (spawned from AI-0508a, owner unspecified) You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=aDE2NG10dWoyaThkYW5rYj… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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***SPAM*** Windows Workflow
by Steven Newhouse 07 Aug '07

07 Aug '07

AI-0614a: Steven Newhouse will check whether Windows Workflow can also be used with CCS / BES style services In under two days I was able to (from scratch) build some custom workflow activities to transfer files to/from a server over FTP and to use the HPCP web service to run a job on a cluster resource. This time also included gaining familiarity with the Visual Studio IDE, the Workflow builder components within that, oh and gaining familiarity with C#. From a developer perspective I'm obviously quite impressed! I did not really explore all of the different workflow activities that come provided (parallel, if/else, while, etc.) but the ones I did all seemed fairly straightforward to use. Its straightforward to give an activity properties and to specify these as customizations within a workflow. This allowed me to move a file from my workflow client to the HPC resource, to start a job on the resource, and to transfer back an output file. There are opportunities for simplifying this... e.g. parsing the JSDL file to extract out the transfer ins & outs. And to make the workflow more complex! There's a whole load of stuff on validation, hibernating/dehibernating running workflows, persistence, etc. that I did not explore. With a set of pre-defined configurable activities I see no reason why a technically competent person (not a programmer) could not use a preconfigured environment to build and run their own workflows. Steven PS: I am sure there are other equally excellent ways of doing this in other environments... my focus was on the Windows tooling.

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[Invitation] Workflow (Steve McGough and Michel Drescher) @ 2007-08-09 09:00 - 10:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 07 Aug '07

07 Aug '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Workflow (Steve McGough and Michel Drescher) Time: 2007-08-09 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0809 Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1715 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing *** Detailed agenda TBD *** Minutes approval - July 26: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14702 Action Item review AI-0511b: Michel to pulla workflow strawman poposal together AI-0614a: Steven Newhouse will check whether Windows Workflow can also be used with CCS / BES style services AI-0614d: Steve McGough will compile the list and put it on the wiki AI-0614e: Steve McGough will look for the workflow material from the Berlin GGF AI-0726a: Show typical/existing use cases for cyclic dependency declarations (spawned from AI-0508a, owner unspecified) You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=aDE2NG10dWoyaThkYW5rYj… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Teleconference minutes - 26 July 2007 - Workflow
by Hiro Kishimoto 07 Aug '07

07 Aug '07

Hi all, Draft workflow minutes from 26 July 2007 attached. It is also uploaded onto the GridForge. - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14702 Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto --------------------------------------------- OGSA Teleconference - 26 July 2007 - Workflow ============================================= * Participants Michel Drescher (Fujitsu) Chris Kantarjiev (Oracle) Fabio Benedetti (IBM) Bahare Rahmanzadeh Donal Fellows (UMAN) Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu) Andreas Savva (Fujitsu) ZackK Minutes: Hiro Kishimoto * Agenda bashing Michel proposes the following as today's session; - Open discussion - Donal report out about Taverna - Discuss a schedule * June 14 minutes accepted * New action item AI-0726a: Show typical/existing use cases for cyclic dependency declarations (spawned from AI-0508a, owner unspecified) * Action items review AI-0508a: Donal to get in contact with Taverna Drill use cases for cyclic dependency declarations Donal has sent out overview of Taverna to the list and also will explain at today's session. AI closed. Since "cyclic dependency" is not covered, new AI specific to "cyclic dependency" is created but no one takes charge of it. AI-0726a (new): Show typical/existing use cases for cyclic dependency declarations (spawned from AI-0508a, owner unspecified) AI-0511b: Michel to pull workflow strawman proposal together No progress, keep it open. AI-0614a: Steven Newhouse will check whether Windows Workflow can also be used with CCS / BES style services No progress, keep it open. AI-0614b: Andreas will put the initial presentation points on the wiki Done. AI-0614c: Andreas will put the initial questionnaire points on the wiki Done. AI-0614d: Steve McGough will compile the list and put it on the wiki This is a list for presentations. Keep it open. We will clarify at the August F2F. AI-0614e: Steve McGough will look for the workflow material from the Berlin GGF Keep it open. * Taverna workflows by Donal Fellows Taverna is not service oriented workflow but data oriented workflow. It is actually data & control oriented workflow. Taverna is scientific oriented, underneath medical or pharmaceuticals resource managements are expected to be free to use. There is no run time authorization mechanism. However a workflow should go through ethics committee and it requires human intervention. How much work will be necessary to Tavarna people adopt standards? It should not be BPEL, Taverna is very very different from BPEL. BPEL workflow document is easy to becomes very large but Taverna is much sophisticate than BPEL. Taverna has very unique view for how to model. They don't depend specific execution environment but use specific meta date. * Next step Donal thinks it is remote chance to succeed workflow standard. No one wants to achieve workflow interoperability. Chris Kantarjiev says interoperability is out of our scope. Donal agrees. Control job dependency is in-scope. Donal thinks it is rather components dependency. Exapmle is just run posix jobs. Donal thinks Steve wants to stay simple cases. Hiro says we work on community practice document as fast track. Consensus is "focus community practice document" (fast track). Job dependency (2nd track) should be postponed and focus community practice document. * OGF21 session plan OGSA-WG will request 5 sessions including workflow. If it is not necessary, we can cancel it later. Chris K, our AD, is ok to submit 5 session request. Hiro will do so shortly.

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OGSA Roadmap Draft 19 uploaded
by Christopher Jordan 06 Aug '07

06 Aug '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Roadmap 1.1 draft v19 has been uploaded to Gridforge. This version includes new sections on the RSS specification, EAP material from Hiro, and two Information Model documents. It is close to a final draft, and I encourage interested parties to review it with an eye towards a near-final review during the F2F. Thanks. Chris Jordan Data Reliability Manager Digital Preservation Initiatives San Diego Supercomputer Center ctjordan(a)sdsc.edu 858.534.8347 http://del.icio.us/tensileacuity "Highways, office blocks, faces and street signs are perceived as if they were elements in a malfunctioning central nervous system." - J.G. Ballard -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFGt6UsPCVtcXn6kg8RAumzAJ4tbb8kqRxdLf05/W7GTc3SsF/TJQCeN5p9 bFMoCmCv1+4Mff70R15b8NU= =T7AW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[Reminder] Roadmap (Chris Jordan) @ 2007-08-06 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Google Calendar 05 Aug '07

05 Aug '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Roadmap (Chris Jordan) Time: 2007-08-06 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1715 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document review (Chris) roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 Minutes approval July 9: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14660 Action Item review AI-0625a: Hiro will check number and status of the info model documents and send the information to Chris J (via tracker) You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bzNtdmNwajZ1NDFucmRyY2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Roadmap (Chris Jordan) @ 2007-08-06 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 04 Aug '07

04 Aug '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Roadmap (Chris Jordan) Time: 2007-08-06 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1715 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document review (Chris) roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 Minutes approval July 9: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14660 Action Item review AI-0625a: Hiro will check number and status of the info model documents and send the information to Chris J (via tracker) You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bzNtdmNwajZ1NDFucmRyY2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Re: [ogsa-wg] [OGSA-D-WG] Definition of "data service"
by Subramaniam, Ravi 02 Aug '07

02 Aug '07

Hi, I would think that data is neither a resource, capability nor service. It is a unique entity/concept/essence. Thinking of data as a capability, resource or service can be problematic. Data is 'manipulated' by resources (could not think of a more appropriate word to represent the concept that I am thinking so I put it in quotes). To clarify data can be stored on a resource (storage), distributed by a resource (network), organised by or as a resource (file), operated on by a resource (CPU). Note: the items in parenthesis in the earlier sentence are resources (or more precisely resource types). A service provides access to or a view of a resource (i.e. a *portal* into one or a set of resources) - this latter part is congruent with the WSRF approach. By this thought process, a 'data service' or 'data resource' is a misnomer. A service is a portal into or the external manifestation of a resource which in turn 'operates' (in a wide sense) on data. Part of the confusion appears on where in this 'concept chain' we are. So if we are at the resource level we introduce terms like 'data resource' or at the service level 'data service'. In the example on files in the earlier part of the thread: The file is a resource used to organise data. The operations performed on a file is the service that is the external manifestations of the resource (i.e. the file) By this definition, we manage resources and not data. Actually data management is only achieved by managing the resources that 'operate' on data. Ravi Ravi Subramaniam -----Original Message----- From: guru prasad [mailto:guru_bn@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 07:55 AM Pacific Standard Time To: Donal K. Fellows Cc: ogsa-d-wg(a)ogf.org; ogsa-wg; Allen Luniewski Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] [OGSA-D-WG] Definition of "data service" > Thank you for your comments Allen. > > In that case I vote for Dave Berry's definition: > > "A service that provides interfaces to the capabilities and data of one > or more data resources within a service-oriented architecture." There is a separate question as to whether the data *is* a capability; I suspect it is, at least in some abstract sense. On the other hand, you might wish to distinguish the data as a special kind of capability that needs non-generic handling. So can you suggest the modification to the definition that will incorporate what you just above? "Donal K. Fellows" <donal.k.fellows(a)manchester.ac.uk> wrote: guru prasad wrote: > Thank you for your comments Allen. > > In that case I vote for Dave Berry's definition: > > "A service that provides interfaces to the capabilities and data of one > or more data resources within a service-oriented architecture." There is a separate question as to whether the data *is* a capability; I suspect it is, at least in some abstract sense. On the other hand, you might wish to distinguish the data as a special kind of capability that needs non-generic handling. > and the Data Resource is ..... A data resource is an abstraction of a file, so I'd imagine that you'd want to describe it as a resource that is an ordered collection of organized information. (The idea is that it doesn't have to be in a file, but it does have many file-like characteristics.) It's strongly beneficial to the overall OGSA if you can have data resources being a subclass of resources (by referencing the OGSA glossary). Donal. --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.

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[Invitation] Profile Interop/General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) @ 2007-08-02 09:00 - 10:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 01 Aug '07

01 Aug '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Profile Interop/General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) Time: 2007-08-02 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Profile Interoperability (David Snelling, 30 min) OGSA WSRF Basic Profile 1.0 Tests page - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1832 Develop interop pages for naming and the security specs. 3) August F2F meeting schedule (Hiro, 15 min) F2F meeting information - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1776 Session owners: Please add detailed agenda into Google Calender 4) OGF21 update (Hiro, if any) - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1834 6) AoB Minutes approval July 23: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14688 Action Item review AI-0511c: Steve Newhouse volunteered to look into the possible next documents for the EMS Architecture and draw up a proposal AI-0611g: Jem will ask the people involved in the HP WSRF implementation about the possibility of taking part in the interop. AI-0611h: Once the wiki page is set up, Hiro will ask the IBM and HP OGF Board members for their teams to take part. AI-0712a: Hiro to ask Steve T about Univa involvement. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=dWtjM2d0MjZ0MHN1aGIyaW… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Information Service (Felix Ehm and Adrian Toth) @ 2007-08-02 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 01 Aug '07

01 Aug '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Information Service (Felix Ehm and Adrian Toth) Time: 2007-08-02 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Information Services (Felix Ehm) Discussion material for Information Services by Laurence Field and Felix Ehm is now on the GridForge. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14692 This document covers the problem description, experience in GIN, overview of existing systems, generalized system and suggested areas for standardization. Minutes approval June 7: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14603 Action Item review * AI-0607c: Laurence will write up (a) small chart of what this design team will do (plan or schedule) and, (b) generic information services architecture in a simple chart. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NG9lcG9sdWRqczBpdGIwaH… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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No roadmap call today
by Hiro Kishimoto 30 Jul '07

30 Jul '07

Hi all, Sorry for the last minutes notice but since Chris Jordan cannot make today's call. We will postpone roadmap call to next Monday (August 6). Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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[Invitation] Express Authentication Profile (Duane Merrill) @ Mon Jul 30 17:00 - 18:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 28 Jul '07

28 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Express Authentication Profile (Duane Merrill) Time: Mon Jul 30 17:00 - 18:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA Express AuthN profiles (Duane) Duane has addressed the majority of the trackers regarding the three EAPdocuments and have uploaded a new version of each to GridForge (v004). - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spuc Duane would appreciate it if, before our Monday call, the authors/interested parties of these trackers could review the relevant updates as per my tracker comments and let me know if there are any deficiencies. 3) Tracker item review (Duane) The items that Duane would like to discuss on Monday (July 30) are: Any outstanding issues for the trackers that Duane has set as "resolved" or "pending" (Currently the pending ones have been assigned to Blair for review.) This includes Duane's update of the Secure SOAP doc to downgrade whole-sale integrity and confidentiality requirements from mandatory to recommended. Thoughts on the signing of secure EPRs Thoughts on Kerberos/SAML ancillary EAP profiles. (Duane will try and have a draft of a Kerberos doc by Monday morning.) Issue tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/isuc - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spsa - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spss - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spst Minutes approval July 2nd: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14654 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bmV0OHFhcDU1dDhqYWw3Nj… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Roadmap (Chris Jordan) @ Mon Jul 30 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 28 Jul '07

28 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Roadmap (Chris Jordan) Time: Mon Jul 30 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0730 Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document review (Chris) roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 Minutes approval July 9: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14660 Action Item review AI-0625a: Hiro will check number and status of the info model documents and send the information to Chris J (via tracker) You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bzNtdmNwajZ1NDFucmRyY2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Re: [ogsa-wg] OGSA-WG F2F session detail (OGSA Express Authentication Profiles)
by Duane Merrill 27 Jul '07

27 Jul '07

Everyone, I've addressed the majority of the trackers regarding the three EAP documents and have uploaded a new version of each to GridForge (v004). I would appreciate it if, before our Monday call, the authors/interested parties of these trackers could review the relevant updates as per my tracker comments and let me know if there are any deficiencies. The items that I would like to discuss on Monday (July 30) are: * Any outstanding issues for the trackers that I've set as "resolved" or "pending" (Currently the pending ones have been assigned to Blair for review.) This includes my update of the Secure SOAP doc to downgrade whole-sale integrity and confidentiality requirements from mandatory to recommended. * Thoughts on the signing of secure EPRs * Thoughts on Kerberos/SAML ancillary EAP profiles. (I'll try and have a draft of a Kerberos doc by Monday morning.) Cheers, Duane Hiro Kishimoto wrote: > Duane, > > > You have another EAP call on next Monday (Aug. 6) 6-7pm EDT. > > We need detailed agenda for the call as well. > > Actually, you have two calls on July 30 (Monday) and Aug. 6 (Monday). > > I need agenda for July 30 at this moment. > > Thanks, > ---- > Hiro Kishimoto

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Minutes for today's info model teleconf
by Michel Drescher 26 Jul '07

26 Jul '07

Folks, the minutes for today's info model session are up on Gridforge: http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc14693?nav=1 Cheers, Michel

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[Reminder] Workflow (Michel Drescher) @ 2007-07-26 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Google Calendar 25 Jul '07

25 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Workflow (Michel Drescher) Time: 2007-07-26 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0726 Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing *** Detailed agenda TBD *** Minutes approval - June 14: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14616 Action Item review AI-0508a: Donal to get in contact with Taverna Drill use cases for cyclic dependancy declarations AI-0511b: Michel to pulla workflow strawman poposal together AI-0614a: Steven Newhouse will check whether Windows Workflow can also be used with CCS / BES style services AI-0614b: Andreas will put the initial presentation points on the wiki AI-0614c: Andreas will put the initial questionnaire points on the wiki AI-0614d: Steve McGough will compile the list and put it on the wiki AI-0614e: Steve McGough will look for the workflow material from the Berlin GGF You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NjBjb2dmcnAxcWk5dXByOG… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) @ 2007-07-26 09:00 - 10:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) Time: 2007-07-26 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0726 Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) coordinated/integrated plan for OGSA model, GLUE, and reference model 3) feedback from DMTF alliance partner session Minutes approval July 12: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14678 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NnJqcXRodjNxNWk2bjlwYj… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Workflow (Michel Drescher) @ 2007-07-26 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Workflow (Michel Drescher) Time: 2007-07-26 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0726 Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing *** Detailed agenda TBD *** Minutes approval - June 14: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14616 Action Item review AI-0508a: Donal to get in contact with Taverna Drill use cases for cyclic dependancy declarations AI-0511b: Michel to pulla workflow strawman poposal together AI-0614a: Steven Newhouse will check whether Windows Workflow can also be used with CCS / BES style services AI-0614b: Andreas will put the initial presentation points on the wiki AI-0614c: Andreas will put the initial questionnaire points on the wiki AI-0614d: Steve McGough will compile the list and put it on the wiki AI-0614e: Steve McGough will look for the workflow material from the Berlin GGF You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NjBjb2dmcnAxcWk5dXByOG… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Re: [ogsa-wg] [OGSA-D-WG] Definition of "data service"
by Dave Berry 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

I attach the current glossary definitions from the OGSA Data WG. The definitions of data service & data resource are as follows: Data resource: An entity (and its associated framework) that provides a data access mechanism or can act as a data source or data sink. Data service: A service that provides interfaces to the capabilities and data of one or more data resources within a service-oriented architecture. When I adapted the OGSA 1.5 document to use the latest definitions from the OGSA Data WG, I realised we still needed a term to describe all the related services as well. The current proposal is to use the term "Data Management Services" (which mirrors "Execution Management Services"): In OGSA, the capability concerned with the storage, description, access, update, location, transfer and other management of data. For the record, there are just two terms left to define in the attached file. I think we need to define "data staging" because this is a term that many people in the industry at large are not familiar with. We probably also need a definition of "storage management" (or possibly just "storage"). Best wishes, Dave. _____ From: ogsa-wg-bounces(a)ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of guru prasad Sent: 20 July 2007 19:52 To: Subramaniam, Ravi; Donal K. Fellows Cc: ogsa-d-wg(a)ogf.org; Allen Luniewski; ogsa-wg Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] [OGSA-D-WG] Definition of "data service" Did we decide on a final definition?

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Teleconference minutes - 23 July 2007 (Glossary & Logistics)
by Andreas Savva 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

The minutes are on gridforge: Glossary: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14659?nav=1 Logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14664?nav=1 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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[Reminder] Glossary (Jem Treadwell) @ 2007-07-23 17:00 - 18:00 ()
by Google Calendar 22 Jul '07

22 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Glossary (Jem Treadwell) Time: 2007-07-23 17:00 - 18:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Glossary publication options (Jem Treadwell) Minutes approval - July 9: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14659 Action Item review AI-0611c: Jem will ask the RM-WG chairs to consider the 'pool' term as part of their glossary AI-0709a: Dave Berry will review the OGSA Arch. 1.5 "Data section" against the OGSA Data Architecture document and estimate how much work is required to bring the two in sync AI-0709b: Andreas Savva will review the OGSA Arch. document and the new/updated glossary terms for consistency and estimate the work needed for bringing the OGSA Arch in sync with the Glossary. AI-0709c: Hiro will update the teleconference schedule to move the July 30 Glossary session to July 23 You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=c28wbGM1NnA0MjFxNzM0OX… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Express AuthN - Kerberos Forwarding Use Case
by Blair Dillaway 22 Jul '07

22 Jul '07

A brief description of the Kerberos forwarding use-case is provided below so we have it recorded. This use-case was identified by Chris and Bill in response to discussion about whether the Express AuthN profiles should include Kerberos mechanisms. They have reviewed the text below and confirmed it describes the use-case they are concerned about. Kerberos Token Forwarding Use Case This use case describes a desired operational mode supporting use of a deployed Kerberos authentication infrastructure for grid access control. The grid environment could be within a single organization, or span multiple organizations if cross-realm Kerberos trusts have been established. The requirement is to support resource access by a job (J) running on behalf of a user (U) based on authenticated user identity and attribute information conveyed in a Kerberos token. The user is assumed to only communicate directly with a scheduling service (S) (for example, a BES container service). S then determines a suitable computational host and communicates the information necessary to run the user's job on that host. It is assumed all the grid services are web services which communicate using SOAP-based protocols. To support this use case, U must be able to authenticate to S using Kerberos. S is then responsible for binding the Kerberos authentication information to U's job request. Note that U doesn't know which execution host will eventually run J, and therefore can not supply a Kerberos service ticket for the execution host. When S schedules J, it authenticates to the execution host based on its identity, and must securely communicates U's Kerberos authentication information as part of the job creating request. The execution host then uses U's Kerberos authentication information (user's account and group membership) to establish the job's security context. This could involve running the job under the user's account or obtaining new Kerberos service tickets on-behalf of the user for any required job resources. The security context provides the authenticated information that determines the job's rights to access local and/or remote resources. Regards, Blair Dillaway

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Guidelines for Information Modeling for OGSA Entities
by Hiro Kishimoto 22 Jul '07

22 Jul '07

Hi all, As we agreed, I've submitted "Guidelines for Information Modeling for OGSA Entities" document (with minor editorial clean-up) to OGF Editor for Public Comment Review. Draft: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc12798 Editor Tracker: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/artf5956 Belatedly arrived comments should be posted during Public Comments Period. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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[Invitation] General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) @ 2007-07-23 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 22 Jul '07

22 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) Time: 2007-07-23 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) August F2F meeting schedule (Hiro, 20 min) F2F meeting information - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1776 Finalize session schedule Session owners: Please add detailed agenda into Google Calender 3) OGF21 session schedule (Hiro, 20 min) Proposed sessions are o OGSA profiles Interop (David Snelling) o info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) o Workflow (Steve McGough) o Express Authentication Profiles (Duane Merrill) ?? o Information Services (Laurence Field) ?? - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1834 Session request dead line is July 27. 4) Profile Interoperability (David Snelling, 20 min) OGSA WSRF Basic Profile 1.0 Tests page - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1832 Develop interop pages for naming and the security specs. Minutes approval July 12: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14664 Action Item review AI-0511c: Steve Newhouse volunteered to look into the possible next documents for the EMS Architecture and draw up a proposal AI-0611g: Jem will ask the people involved in the HP WSRF implementation about the possibility of taking part in the interop. AI-0611h: Once the wiki page is set up, Hiro will ask the IBM and HP OGF Board members for their teams to take part. AI-0712a: Hiro to ask Steve T about Univa involvement. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=Z2Q4MWFpc3FnbmVlbmc4bz… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Glossary (Jem Treadwell) @ 2007-07-23 17:00 - 18:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 22 Jul '07

22 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Glossary (Jem Treadwell) Time: 2007-07-23 17:00 - 18:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Glossary publication options (Jem Treadwell) Minutes approval - July 9: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14659 Action Item review AI-0611c: Jem will ask the RM-WG chairs to consider the 'pool' term as part of their glossary AI-0709a: Dave Berry will review the OGSA Arch. 1.5 "Data section" against the OGSA Data Architecture document and estimate how much work is required to bring the two in sync AI-0709b: Andreas Savva will review the OGSA Arch. document and the new/updated glossary terms for consistency and estimate the work needed for bringing the OGSA Arch in sync with the Glossary. AI-0709c: Hiro will update the teleconference schedule to move the July 30 Glossary session to July 23 You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=c28wbGM1NnA0MjFxNzM0OX… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Int. Grid Interoperability and Interoperation Workshop (IGIIW 2007): Deadline extended until July, 29
by Morris Riedel 21 Jul '07

21 Jul '07

FYI: A possibility to publish interoperability/interoperation work in the context of OGSA Due to several requests for an extension, the deadline is extended to July 29th, 2007. -------------------------------------------------------------------- CALL FOR PAPERS International Grid Interoperability and Interoperation Workshop 2007 (IGIIW 2007) Bangalore, India, December 10th - 13th (1 day), 2007 http://omii-europe.org/OMII-Europe/igiiw2007.html to be held in conjunction with 3rd IEEE - Int. Conference on e-Science and Grid Computing 2007 Bangalore, India, December 10th -- 13th, 2007 http://www.escience2007.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- SCOPE The workshop will discuss the interoperability and interoperation aspects of current Grid and Web technologies, production Grid infrastructures in general, and the interoperability through emerging open standards in particular. In the context of this workshop, the difference between interoperability and interoperation is as follows: Interoperation is specifically defined as what needs to be done to get production Grid infrastructures (e.g. DEISA, EGEE, TeraGrid, OSG) to work together as a fast short-term achievement using as much existing technologies as available today. Hence, this is not the perfect solution and different than interoperability that is defined as the native ability of Grids and Grid middleware (UNICORE, gLite, Globus Toolkit) to interact directly via well defined interfaces and common open standards. This will enable cross-Grid use cases and applications from a growing range of domains in industry and science. The goal of this workshop is to bring together researchers and practitioners working in the area of interoperability and interoperation within Grid infrastructures and distributed environments, to exchange and share their experiences, new ideas, and latest research results as well as open problems. Enough time for intensive discussions will be provided and outcomes of the workshop will be summarized in the session. TOPICS OF INTEREST Topics of interest for the workshop include, but are not limited to: * Cross-Grid scientific and business applications * Grid system components that enable interoperability/interoperation * Boundaries and open problems related to interoperability/interoperation * Scientific/business scenarios for Grid interoperability/interoperation * Cross-Grid brokering and workflows, semantics and languages * Security challenges/solutions for Grid interoperability/interoperation * Management & monitoring of interoperable/interoperating Grids * Visualizations for applications of more than one Grid environment * Grid middleware interoperability/interoperation * Roadmaps of Grid technologies for interoperability/interoperation * Performance evaluation of interoperable/interoperating Grid components * Reliability & fault-tolerance during interoperability/interoperation * Autonomic behavior in Grid interoperability/interoperation PROCEEDINGS Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings. More information can be found at http://www.escience2007.org/Papersubmission.htm PAPER SUBMISSIONS Authors are invited to submit manuscripts reporting original, unpublished research and recent developments in the topics related to the workshop. Submitted papers should be not more than 8 pages, including figures and references, of double column text using single-spaced, 10-point font size on 8.5 x 11 inch pages, as per IEEE 8.5 x 11 manuscript guidelines which can be found at ftp://pubftp.computer.org/press/outgoing/proceedings/. Papers should be submitted electronically in PDF format as an e-mail attachment to igiiw(a)fz-juelich.de. All papers will be peer reviewed and comments will be provided to the authors. IMPORTANT DATES (Old Submissions deadline: July 22th, 2007) Extended Submission deadline: July 29th, 2007 Notification of acceptance: August 30th, 2007 Camera-ready version due: September 14th, 2007 Workshop date: December 10th-13th (1 day), 2007 PROGRAM CHAIR Morris Riedel (Forschungszentrum Jülich, Germany) PROGRAM COMMITTEE John Brooke (University of Manchester, UK) Ake Edlund (Royal Institute of Technology KTH, Sweden) Laurence Field (CERN, Switzerland) Ian Foster (University of Chicago, USA) Geoffrey Fox (Indiana University, USA) Wolfgang Gentzsch (D-Grid, Germany) Antonia Ghiselli (INFN, Italy) Fredrik Hedman (Royal Institute of Technology KTH, Sweden) Neil Chu Hong (EPCC, UK) Dieter Kranzlmueller (Linz University, Austria) Erwin Laure (CERN, Switzerland) Daniel Mallmann( Forschungszentrum Jülich, Germany) Moreno Marzolla (INFN, Italy) John-Paul Navarro (Argonne National Laboratory, USA) Steven Newhouse (Microsoft, USA) Ruth Pordes (Fermilab, USA) Ralf Ratering (Intel GmbH, Germany) Markus Schulz (CERN, Switzerland) David Snelling (Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe, UK) Thomas Soddemann (RZG, Germany) Valerio Venturi (INFN, Italy) Von Welch (National Center for Supercomputing Applications, USA) Philipp Wieder (Forschungszentrum Jülich, Germany) ADDITIONAL INFORMATION For further information please refer to http://omii-europe.org/OMII-Europe/igiiw2007.html or send e-mail to igiiw(a)fz-juelich.de .

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Teleconference minutes - 12 July 2007 - info model
by Hiro Kishimoto 19 Jul '07

19 Jul '07

Hi all, Minutes is up on the GridForge. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14678 Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto ---------------------------------------------------------------- OGSA Teleconference - 12 July 2007 - Info model =============================================== * Participants Chris Kantarjiev (Oracle) Ellen Stokes (IBM) Adrian Toth (Univ of Miskolc) Dave Snelling (Fujitsu) Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu) ZackK Minutes: Hiro Kishimoto * June 28 minutes accepted * Container model doc final review (Ellen Stokes) Ellen asks if there are any last minute change request except Hiro’s comments? WG discusses what is the recommendation for copyrights issue. ** copyrights issue Ellen explains how SNIA works with DMTF. - SNIA maintains their own MOF. - DMTF maintains CIM. Ellen believes that SNIA model should work for OGF, too. Mike Baskey, DMTF chair, says that OGF is the only org asking this copyrights dilemma. Ellen will talk to Mark Carlson, DMTF alliance VP, about this issue at DMTF F2F meeting next week. ** reference format Ellen will update reference format soon. ** OGF Editor submission Ellen asks if there are any other comments? Ellen has already made final call two week ago thus no farther final call is necessary. Ellen will clean up this document and pass it to Hiro. Hiro will bring to GFSG (our AD: Chris Kantarjiev). * Modeling guideline document update (Fred Machiel) Fred will update his document soon and will make a final call sometime around this weekend. * Modeling work next step (Ellen Stokes) ** OGSA/GLUE/RM collaboration Ellen will talk to Sergio (GLUE-WG) and Paul Strong (RM-WG) in Portland next week. Ellen will also attend RM-WG call tomorrow. Sergio will attend the call on behalf of GLUE-WG and explain GLUE model there. Ellen will report outcome of the discussion about OGSA/GLUE/RM collaboration July 26 call. ** Information services Adrian asks information services using this modeling? Ellen answers she does not cover client implementation yet. ** Nest week Ellen explains about DMTF partner alliance technical symposium in Portland next week. Glue session and technical committee meeting will be on Tuesday. OGSA info model, reference model, general alliance session is on Wednesday. And alliance committee meeting is on Thursday. Thus Ellen can make only first half of the OGSA call. Meeting adjourned.

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[Cancelled Event] Service Level Terms - TBD @ 2007-07-19 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 19 Jul '07

19 Jul '07

Hiro Kishimoto cancelled the following event: Title: Service Level Terms - TBD Time: 2007-07-19 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0719 Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing ** Detailed Agenda TBD *** Minutes approval (June 14) Mark's minutes: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14614 Andrew's slides with notes: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14615 Action Item review You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Service Level Terms - TBD @ 2007-07-19 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 18 Jul '07

18 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Service Level Terms - TBD Time: 2007-07-19 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0719 Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing ** Detailed Agenda TBD *** Minutes approval (June 14) Mark's minutes: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14614 Andrew's slides with notes: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14615 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=ZjNmN2hvaWNjbDJjM3NiN2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Execution Environment and BES Model in OGSA Grids doc editor submission
by Hiro Kishimoto 18 Jul '07

18 Jul '07

Hi all, As we agreed, I've submitted "Execution Environment and BES Model in OGSA Grids" document (with minor editorial clean-up) to OGF Editor for Public Comment Review. Draft: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14004 Editor Tracker: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/artf5952 Chris Kantarjiev, our Area Director, already gave it green light. Public comment review will start shortly. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Link to OGF Errata process
by Andreas Savva 17 Jul '07

17 Jul '07

Following up on the discussion we had on the Glossary call the proposed OGF Errata process is available on the OGF Editor project: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/projects/ggf-editor The direct link is http://forge.ogf.org/short/ggf-editor/errata -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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Hotel for August F2F
by Andreas Savva 13 Jul '07

13 Jul '07

For those planning to come to the OGSA F2F (August 13-15) and have not booked a hotel yet. Many of us will be staying at the following place: * Corporate Inn Sunnyvale o 805 E El Camino Real, Sunnyvale, CA 94087 United States o Phone: 408 220-1000 or Toll Free 888.411.2208 o 129 USD/night (Group rate under "Fujiau" instead of "Fujitsu corporate rate") See also https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.ogsa-wg/wiki/2007A… -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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Final Call for comments on Modeling Guidelines document
by Fred Maciel 13 Jul '07

13 Jul '07

Hi all, I uploaded a new version to GridForge, which I think that's ready for public review by the OGF. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc12798?nav=1 Main changes in this version are: - Mention Ellen's document - Corrected references to the GGF (the remaining ones should be correct). Regards, Fred Maciel Hitachi America R&D www.hitachi.com/truestories

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container model doc (output from workgroup last call)
by Ellen Stokes 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

I've updated the container model doc ( https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14004?nav=1 ) to reflect: (1) updates from workgroup last call (minor title change from Grid to Grids) (2) MOF return code text reflects BES doc changes from Invalid Request Message to Invalid Activity Identifier on interfaces TerminateActivity, GetActivityStatus, and GetActivityDocuments This version matches the change request that was approved by the DMTF CIMCore workgroup (6/26) and DMTF Technical Committee (7/10) that will be released in CIMv2.16 (August 2007). I believe this informational document is now ready to be sent to the GFSG to initiate the 1 month public comment period. Let's discuss on this Thursday's OGSA call (7/12). Ellen

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[Invitation] Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) @ 2007-07-12 9am - 10am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) Time: 2007-07-12 9am - 10am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing *** Detailed agenda TBD **** Minutes approval June 28: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14651 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YTNpNW40dXVicHJrZGhjb2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Profile interop, F2F, and OGF21 (Hiro Kishimoto) @ 2007-07-12 8am - 9am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Profile interop, F2F, and OGF21 (Hiro Kishimoto) Time: 2007-07-12 8am - 9am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Profile Interoperability (David Snelling, 20 min) OGSA WSRF Basic Profile 1.0 Tests page - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1832 3) OGF21 session schedule (Hiro, 10 min) Which sessions we will have at OGF21? - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1834 4) August F2F meeting update (Hiro, 10 min) Please answer your availability through SurveyMonkey. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=88233875297 5) Action Item management tool (Andreas, if time permits) 6) AoB Minutes approval July 2: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14655 Action Item review AI-0511c: Steve Newhouse volunteered to look into the possible next documents for the EMS Architecture and draw up a proposal AI-0611f: Dave S will use the HPC Profile wiki page as a starting point and produce a first draft for the interop wiki page, by the July 2 call AI-0611g: Jem will ask the people involved in the HP WSRF implementation about the possibility of taking part in the interop. AI-0611h: Once the wiki page is set up, Hiro will ask the IBM and HP OGF Board members for their teams to take part. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=MDAyNzdkNGU4M3YxZTluZz… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Teleconference minutes - 9 July 2007 - Roadmap & Glossary
by Andreas Savva 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

Minutes are on gridforge: Roadmap: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14660?nav=1 Glossary: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14659?nav=1 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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Last call for additions to the Roadmap
by Christopher Jordan 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Fellow OGSA working group members, We are currently trying to finalize the document list for the OGSA Roadmap document. In order to ensure that we have all the appropriate documents listed in the Roadmap, I am sending this request that document authors and editors review the following list of documents which are currently described in the OGSA Roadmap draft. If there are documents on this list which have changed title or function in the past few months, or there are documents which are not on the list but should be, please send a note either to myself or to the OGSA-WG list, or join one of the Roadmap calls, to discuss any additions or changes which need to be made. The list below only includes document titles and versions. To view the full description and schedule for each of the documents, please consult the latest draft of the Roadmap document, available from: http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc13733?nav=1 (New additions, to be discussed today but not on the list below are the Express Authentication Profile, Resource Modeling, and the EGA Reference Model reconciliation document) Informational Documents _____________________ OGSA Architecture Version 1.5 OGSA Glossary Version 1.5 OGSA ByteIO Use-Cases Version 1.0 OGSA Data Architecture Version 1.0 Naming Issues in Distributed Systems Version 1.0 OGSA EMS Architecture Scenarios Version 1.0 Normative Documents ___________________ OGSA ByteIO Interface Document Version 1.0 OGSA Basic Execution Services Interface Document Version 1.0 Job Submission Description Language Specification Version 1.1 Resource Namespace Service Specification Version 1.0 WS-Naming Specification Version 1.0 Application Content Service Specification Version 1.0 WS-Agreement Specification Version 1.0 Attributes Used in OGSA Authorization Version 1.0 Recommended Profiles _________________________ OGSA WSRF Basic Profile Version 1.0 OGSA Security Profile 1.0 – Secure Channel OGSA Basic Security Profile 1.0 – Anonymous Channel Thanks. Chris Jordan Data Reliability Manager Digital Preservation Initiatives San Diego Supercomputer Center ctjordan(a)sdsc.edu 858.534.8347 http://del.icio.us/tensileacuity "I have lots of problems. But they belong to me." - Sex, Lies, and Videotape -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFGkp7EPCVtcXn6kg8RAmi7AKDbxMOdGYfyvHjnabCm8p27WXJYswCgsmGh pPJt2wucW+7WnhsZ3q9hrmA= =c1B3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [ogsa-wg] [OGSA-D-WG] Definition of "data service"
by guru prasad 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Thank you for your comments Allen. In that case I vote for Dave Berry's definition: "A service that provides interfaces to the capabilities and data of one or more data resources within a service-oriented architecture." and the Data Resource is ..... Allen Luniewski <luniew(a)us.ibm.com> wrote: My comments below. Allen Luniewski IBM Cross Brand Services IBM Silicon Valley Laboratory 555 Bailey Ave. San Jose, CA 95141 408-463-2255 408-930-1844 (mobile) guru prasad <guru_bn(a)yahoo.com> wrote on 07/06/2007 12:46:49 PM: > In essence, it is clear with the discussions we have been having > that it is not enough to define a data service as something that > "exposes the capabilities and data of data resource". > > I agree to dave's definition. However, I think we need to define > Data Resource in conjunction with the definition of the Data > Service. I have also compiled all the comments we are exchanging See my note below. We have done this as part of the Data Architecture. I believe that the definitions of data resource and data service are consistent with one another > back and forth in this single mail. > > > Quesiton 1: > If the Data Service is advertising the capabilities and the data, > will the onus be on the data resource to provide QoS. No. The data service is responsible for agreeing to, and providing, QoS. Obviously it will do using whatever capabilities the data resource provides. Moreover, it is quite reasonable to expect that the ability of a data service to provide QoS is constrained by the QoS capabilities of the data resource. But that is an implementation issue and not one that the user of the data service is aware of. > > Say for example: My data service says that a data resource provides > "copy" feature on a certain data. Then who should ensure that copy > feature is available, and upon invoking with right credentials and > parameters that it "copy" is successful? Will that be data resource? > or the me who is invoking the "copy" capaibility? In all cases, the answer is the data service. > > This is important because the definitions we have/are > proposed/proposing do not make these vital things clear. All we are > saying is service exposes capabilities and the data while the data > resource that holds the data and provides various mechanisms to > access the data. > > Question 2: > > What about the possibility of a single data source and different > capabilities on that source provided by different data resources. As posed, this is an issue outside of the context of the data architecture - the operations provided by a data resource are outside of the architecture. To put your question differently, it is quite possible, and reasonable, for their to be many data services that use the same data resource. > > For Example: I am a employee table. I have a "update" capability > from data resource one on view1. I have "add" capability provided by > data resource two on view2. Effectively, I am still the same physical table. This question is outside of the data architecture since you are proposing a direct interaction with the data resource. If I substitute "data service" for "data resource" in your question, then the operations you can perform are dependent on whether you access via view1 or view2. In this example, the effect will to make changes to the same data resource. > > > > Related conversations. > > DONAL: > > guru prasad wrote: > > I have the following opinion about the proposed definition for a data > > > service: "A service that exposes the capabilities or data of one or > more > > data resources within a service-oriented architecture." > > I'm trying to understand why there should be a distinction between > "capabilities" and "data" in this context. Data's interesting for what > you can do with it. :-) > > > The definition just tells me that Data Service just exposes the > > capabilities and/or data of data resource(s). But, it does not tell > me > > if I can access this service to invoke those capabilities or the data > of > > a data resource. > > It's exposing the capabilities, not (necessarily) a description of > them. > > > If this is true, then, 'service' is too strong a term. > > It should be 'data resource descriptor'. Else, 'service that exposese > > > the capabilities or data' has to be rephrased. Because it is not only > > > exposing but also allowing the user to access those capabilities. > > A capability isn't exposed if it isn't (at least in principle) > accessible. > > Donal: > > guru prasad wrote: > > This brings me to this question: What is the difference between and > data > > source and a data resource? > > A data source is an origin endpoint for a data transfer, and is > typically positioned on a data resource. A data resource is some > structured information (==data) that can be used by an activity, > monitored for changes, lifetime-managed, etc. (==resource); i.e. a data > resource is data that is a resource. Obvious really. :-) > > > Is former just the container for data and latter is responsible for > > managing one or more data sources? > > Now you're getting mixed up between the service instances that > implement > the concept space and the concepts themselves. Both "data source" and > "data resource" are concepts, and they map respectively to things like > a > service instance that can stream the results of a database query or a > file. It might be that the two things are implemented in the same > component, but that's not required. Also, a single data resource may > have many different sources associated with it (corresponding to views > of the data, transfer methods, etc.) > > If it helps, remember that I regard the act of data transfer as an > activity. > > Donal. > > Allen Luniewski: > > From the Data Architecture glossary: > Data sink: A data resource that receives the data copied by > a data transfer mechanism from a source. > Data Source: A data resource that contains the data to be > copied to a sink via a data transfer mechanism. > Informally, Data Architecture, and DMI for that matter, use these > terms to denote the end points of a data transfer operation. > > A data resource is defined as: > An entity (and its associated framework) that provides a > data access mechanism or can act as a source or sink. > (This is what currently on Grid Forge but source/sink really mean > data source/sink). > > So, a data resource is the "thing" that both holds data and provides > mechanisms for accessing its contents. > > Think of a data resource as something like a relational database or > a file system as we have had for decades while the Data Architecture > defines interfaces (services) that "front" a data resource, making > it a participant in the service oriented architecture being defined by OGSA. > > > Dave Berry: > > I suppose there is an ambiguity arising throught the phrase "expose the > capabilities", as we don't have a definition of "expose". Perhaps we > could find better words to express the intended meaning. I wondered > about "make available the capabilities and data", but this might be > confused with provisioning. (I notice that the OGSA definition of > "virtualization" has dropped the phrase "make available"). > > How about: > > "A service that provides interfaces to the capabilities and data of one > or more > data resources within a service-oriented architecture." > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see > what's on, when. --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.

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OGSA Glossary revision 5 uploaded for July 9th call
by Treadwell, Jem 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Hi, I've uploaded an updated draft (Draft 5) of the OGSA Glossary - you can find it at: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13938?nav=1 This is for discussion on the July 9th telecon (next Monday). Please take a look, and if you're not going to be on the call please let me have any comments as soon as possible. Note that: o Once comments have been addressed this draft will wrap up the OGSA/Reference Model glossary convergence activity. o For now, please just review the terms. I haven't yet fully addressed the changes needed to the front and end sections. o This draft includes several terms from the forthcoming OGSA Data Architecture document, supplied by the OGSA-D WG. The Data section in the OGSA Architecture doc will need to be revised in line with these changes; no firm plan for that at the moment. o On Monday's call we'll discuss next steps for the document - i.e. when and in what form to propose it for publication, and how to sync with the related documents. Thanks! - Jem Jem Treadwell Software Engineer HP ESS Software 856.638.6021 office | 856.638.6190 fax | jem.treadwell(a)hp.com 6000 Irwin Road | Mount Laurel | NJ 08054 www.hp.com/go/software <http://www.hp.com/go/software>

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[Reminder] Glossary (Jem Treadwell) @ 2007-07-09 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Google Calendar 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Glossary (Jem Treadwell) Time: 2007-07-09 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0709 Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Full document review (Jem Treadwell) Jem has uploaded an updated draft (Draft 5) of the OGSA Glossary - you can find it at: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13938?nav=1 Please take a look, and if you're not going to be on the call please let me have any comments as soon as possible. Note that: o Once comments have been addressed this draft will wrap up the OGSA/Reference Model glossary convergence activity. o For now, please just review the terms. I haven't yet fully addressed the changes needed to the front and end sections. o This draft includes several terms from the forthcoming OGSA Data Architecture document, supplied by the OGSA-D WG. The Data section in the OGSA Architecture doc will need to be revised in line with these changes; no firm plan for that at the moment. o On Monday's call we'll discuss next steps for the document - i.e. when and in what form to propose it for publication, and how to sync with the related documents. 3) when we publish (Jem Treadwell) How (or if) to publish the glossary separately from Architecture doc Minutes approval - June 11: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14605 Action Item review AI-0611a: Jem/Hiro will add to the agenda of the next Glossary call a discussion on how to publish the Glossary document AI-0611b: Jem will ask Donal F and Dave S to review the definition of 'state' and finalize it AI-0611c: Jem will ask the RM-WG chairs to consider the 'pool' term as part of their glossary AI-0611d: Jem will talk with Dave B on how to proceed with the Data terms and report back on the next call AI-0611e: Hiro will add to the next Roadmap call agenda a discussion on the relation of OGSA and Reference Model; and whether to include a description of that relation in the Roadmap. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=MGxoMzY3MWhrMTVhMzFhbW… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Reminder] Roadmap (Chris Jordan) @ 2007-07-09 17:00 - 18:00 ()
by Google Calendar 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Roadmap (Chris Jordan) Time: 2007-07-09 17:00 - 18:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0709 Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document review (Chris) roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 3) glossary publication process discussion (Jem, if time permits) How (or if) to publish the glossary separately from Architecture doc Minutes approval June 25: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14632 Action Item review * AI-0618b: The figure in Appendix A needs some rework. In particular delete WS-BaseNotification 1.3 from the WSRF box and format the text boxes (WSRF, WSN) so that they are both in 'foundation' or outside * AI-0618c: Chris J will add and assign a tracker artifact to check the status of all documents AI-0625a: Hiro will check number and status of the info model documents and send the information to Chris J (via tracker) AI-0625b: Chris J will send a mail to the list asking people if there are other documents that need to be added - Include a list of documents that are currently in the Roadmap for easy reference You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWxsMm5vaWE1Mzdwc3R2Zm… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Glossary (Jem Treadwell) @ 2007-07-09 6pm - 7pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Glossary (Jem Treadwell) Time: 2007-07-09 6pm - 7pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0709 Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Full document review (Jem Treadwell) Jem has uploaded an updated draft (Draft 5) of the OGSA Glossary - you can find it at: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13938?nav=1 Please take a look, and if you're not going to be on the call please let me have any comments as soon as possible. Note that: o Once comments have been addressed this draft will wrap up the OGSA/Reference Model glossary convergence activity. o For now, please just review the terms. I haven't yet fully addressed the changes needed to the front and end sections. o This draft includes several terms from the forthcoming OGSA Data Architecture document, supplied by the OGSA-D WG. The Data section in the OGSA Architecture doc will need to be revised in line with these changes; no firm plan for that at the moment. o On Monday's call we'll discuss next steps for the document - i.e. when and in what form to propose it for publication, and how to sync with the related documents. 3) when we publish (Jem Treadwell) How (or if) to publish the glossary separately from Architecture doc Minutes approval - June 11: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14605 Action Item review AI-0611a: Jem/Hiro will add to the agenda of the next Glossary call a discussion on how to publish the Glossary document AI-0611b: Jem will ask Donal F and Dave S to review the definition of 'state' and finalize it AI-0611c: Jem will ask the RM-WG chairs to consider the 'pool' term as part of their glossary AI-0611d: Jem will talk with Dave B on how to proceed with the Data terms and report back on the next call AI-0611e: Hiro will add to the next Roadmap call agenda a discussion on the relation of OGSA and Reference Model; and whether to include a description of that relation in the Roadmap. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=MGxoMzY3MWhrMTVhMzFhbW… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Roadmap (Chris Jordan) @ 2007-07-09 5pm - 6pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Roadmap (Chris Jordan) Time: 2007-07-09 5pm - 6pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0709 Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document review (Chris) roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 3) glossary publication process discussion (Jem, if time permits) How (or if) to publish the glossary separately from Architecture doc Minutes approval June 25: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14632 Action Item review * AI-0618b: The figure in Appendix A needs some rework. In particular delete WS-BaseNotification 1.3 from the WSRF box and format the text boxes (WSRF, WSN) so that they are both in 'foundation' or outside * AI-0618c: Chris J will add and assign a tracker artifact to check the status of all documents AI-0625a: Hiro will check number and status of the info model documents and send the information to Chris J (via tracker) AI-0625b: Chris J will send a mail to the list asking people if there are other documents that need to be added - Include a list of documents that are currently in the Roadmap for easy reference You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWxsMm5vaWE1Mzdwc3R2Zm… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Updated Invitation] Roadmap (Chris Jordan) @ 2007-07-09 5pm - 6pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: Roadmap (Chris Jordan) Time: 2007-07-09 5pm - 6pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0709 Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document review (Chris) roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 3) glossary publication process discussion (Jem, if time permits) How (or if) to publish the glossary separately from Architecture doc Minutes approval June 25: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14632 Action Item review * AI-0618b: The figure in Appendix A needs some rework. In particular delete WS-BaseNotification 1.3 from the WSRF box and format the text boxes (WSRF, WSN) so that they are both in 'foundation' or outside * AI-0618c: Chris J will add and assign a tracker artifact to check the status of all documents AI-0625a: Hiro will check number and status of the info model documents and send the information to Chris J (via tracker) AI-0625b: Chris J will send a mail to the list asking people if there are other documents that need to be added - Include a list of documents that are currently in the Roadmap for easy reference You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWxsMm5vaWE1Mzdwc3R2Zm… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Re: [ogsa-wg] [OGSA-D-WG] Definition of "data service"
by Dave Berry 06 Jul '07

06 Jul '07

I suppose there is an ambiguity arising throught the phrase "expose the capabilities", as we don't have a definition of "expose". Perhaps we could find better words to express the intended meaning. I wondered about "make available the capabilities and data", but this might be confused with provisioning. (I notice that the OGSA definition of "virtualization" has dropped the phrase "make available"). How about: "A service that provides interfaces to the capabilities and data of one or more data resources within a service-oriented architecture." Dave. > >guru prasad wrote: > > The definition just tells me that Data Service just exposes the > > capabilities and/or data of data resource(s). But, it does not tell me > > if I can access this service to invoke those capabilities or the data of > > a data resource. > Donal Fellows replied: > It's exposing the capabilities, not (necessarily) a description of them. > A capability isn't exposed if it isn't (at least in principle) accessible.

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Re: [ogsa-wg] [OGSA-D-WG] Definition of "data service"
by guru prasad 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

I have the following opinion about the proposed definition for a data service: "A service that exposes the capabilities or data of one or more data resources within a service-oriented architecture." The definition just tells me that Data Service just exposes the capabilities and/or data of data resource(s). But, it does not tell me if I can access this service to invoke those capabilities or the data of a data resource. If this is true, then, 'service' is too strong a term. It should be 'data resource descriptor'. Else, 'service that exposese the capabilities or data' has to be rephrased. Because it is not only exposing but also allowing the user to access those capabilities. I also agree to what bob natale had to say. The definition of data resource should evolve and be included with the definition of data service. Allen Luniewski <luniew(a)us.ibm.com> wrote: >From the Data Architecture glossary: Data sink: A data resource that receives the data copied by a data transfer mechanism from a source. Data Source: A data resource that contains the data to be copied to a sink via a data transfer mechanism. Informally, Data Architecture, and DMI for that matter, use these terms to denote the end points of a data transfer operation. A data resource is defined as: An entity (and its associated framework) that provides a data access mechanism or can act as a source or sink. (This is what currently on Grid Forge but source/sink really mean data source/sink). So, a data resource is the "thing" that both holds data and provides mechanisms for accessing its contents. Think of a data resource as something like a relational database or a file system as we have had for decades while the Data Architecture defines interfaces (services) that "front" a data resource, making it a participant in the service oriented architecture being defined by OGSA. Allen Luniewski IBM Cross Brand Services IBM Silicon Valley Laboratory 555 Bailey Ave. San Jose, CA 95141 408-463-2255 408-930-1844 (mobile) guru prasad <guru_bn(a)yahoo.com> Sent by: ogsa-wg-bounces(a)ogf.org 07/05/2007 10:54 AM To Mario Antonioletti <mario(a)epcc.ed.ac.uk>, Dave Berry <daveb(a)nesc.ac.uk> cc ogsa-d-wg(a)ogf.org, ogsa-wg <ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org> Subject Re: [ogsa-wg] [OGSA-D-WG] Definition of "data service" This brings me to this question: What is the difference between and data source and a data resource? Is former just the container for data and latter is responsible for managing one or more data sources? Mario Antonioletti <mario(a)epcc.ed.ac.uk> wrote: Hi, > Currently we're looking at something like the following: > > A service that exposes the capabilities or data of one or more > data resources within a service-oriented architecture. I think it should be "the capabilities and data" as opposed to "or". Similarly for the definition below. However, I think the one above is more succinct and thus gets my vote. > or > > A service that exposes the capabilities of one or more data > resources within a service-oriented architecture. These capabilities > might include data access, data transfer or data management. Mario +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Mario Antonioletti:EPCC,JCMB,The King's Buildings,Edinburgh EH9 3JZ. | |Tel:0131 650 5141|mario@epcc.ed.ac.uk|http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/~mario/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- ogsa-wg mailing list ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.-- ogsa-wg mailing list ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.

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Definition of "data service"
by Dave Berry 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

We invite comments on the definition of "data service" for the OGSA Data Architecture (and hence the OGSA Glossary). Currently we're looking at something like the following: A service that exposes the capabilities or data of one or more data resources within a service-oriented architecture. or A service that exposes the capabilities of one or more data resources within a service-oriented architecture. These capabilities might include data access, data transfer or data management. We think either of these would be a significant improvement on our previous definition. The emphasis in these new proposals is on linking data resources into an SOA, which fits nicely with the OGSA definition of a service: A software component participating in a service-oriented architecture that provides functionality and/or participates in realizing one or more capabilities. Our previous definition mentioned specific types of interfaces, which we think is too specific and not resistant to change: A service that is primarily intended to provide access to data stored in one or more data resources. A data service will provide one or more of the data access, data source or data sink interfaces defined in the OGSA Data Architecture. Comments welcome, especially before Monday's OGSA-WG call. Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre 15 South College Street, Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039 www.nesc.ac.uk <http://www.nesc.ac.uk/>

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express profile documents
by Blair Dillaway 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

Hi Duane , Here are some additional comments on the express profile specs dated June 28, 2007. Overall I think these are considerably improved over the initial drafts. Secure-Addressing: - Line 69: "Extend the requirements of the WS-I ..." doesn't sound right. Perhaps "Address additional grid interoperability requirements not covered in WS-i..." - Line 86 "client to engage in secure communication." How about "client to engage in secure communication and effectively use an OGSA web service". This at least acknowledges concerns raised by David Chadwick about providing the tokens needed to authZ actions at the service. - Line 173: It should be WS-SecurityPolicy 1.2, not 1.5. - Line282: Add to end of the paragraph - "The INITIATOR may need the RECIPIENT's token to supply a verifiable key used for message-level encryption of an initial request message. - Section 4.3: If we're specifying a 'secure endpoint reference' then we should say something about how these EPR documents are distributed. There are several possible attacks from modifying these documents in transit (man-in-the-middle attacks, failing to sign and/or encrypt the message correctly). One option is to provide for signing of these documents by the service, in which case we should spec how they are signed. This is the most scalable approach. One could also assume distribution via trusted server over TLS/SSL, but that's likely unacceptable in a lot of environments. Secure-Transport - Line 248, 252: You reference the ciphersuites in WS-SecurityPolicy. This is a fine list of strong suites, but unfortunately doesn't include a cross-reference to the TLS/SSL standard ciphersuite identifiers. You provide an example translation on Line 384. A simple mapping table would likely help out people reading this spec who are familiar with the TSL/SSL suite names. - Line 312: Providing to EPR document signing would help address the issue you raise regarding EPRs coming from untrusted sources. Secure-Soap - Line 285: It says ".. this Profile requires encrypted communication". Based on prior discussions, I had thought it was agreed integrity protection was a MUST but confidentiality was optional? - Section 7: I still have a problem with the wording here. Stating in C0701 that "UsernameToken credentials SHOULD NOT be used for message authentication..", and then having Section 7.2 explain how to indicate they should be used for message level client authentication, seems contradictory. C0701 also says username tokens "are not cryptographically verifiable.". Of course, if one uses password digest (with nonce & timestamp) one can get cryptographically strong verification the sender knew the password and the token wasn't pasted in from some other message. Was your intent in C0701 to warn people that username tokens should be used with caution since they: 1) don't provide a basis for ensuring overall message integrity; 2) the binding between the token and message is weak? Perhaps just remove C0701 since it's the only numbered security consideration in the document and the requirements in Section 4.2 already ensure it can't be used unless you're using secure transport. Regards, Blair Dillaway

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Taverna workflows
by Donal K. Fellows 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

It's been an action on me to find out about Taverna. Since the workflow session today was cancelled (national holidays? pah!) I'll report what I've learned so far here before I forget due to vacation. :-) Taverna is a data-oriented workflow system (as opposed to control-oriented, though it also supports control links between processors) for automating tasks as seen from the client-side; it's intended to replace "human workflows" which involved cutting and pasting chunks of text between web pages (previously a time-consuming and error-prone process). It's not designed to handle cases with complex recovery from failures, but is instead focussed on automated handling of sets of data. It's GUI-oriented (though there is a command-line execution module) and as such it has got a number of features to enable scaling of the complexity of workflows to scientifically-useful levels: in particular, it has recursive decomposition and a way to mark processing nodes as "not interesting" and hence normally hidden. One limitation is that Taverna essentially assumes that the processing nodes are free to use (both by the user *and* by anyone else) which has a consequence in terms of its (non-existent) security model[*]. It's also not designed with dynamic instantiation of services in mind (there's a plugin for service discovery, but it's not integrated into the workflow system itself, just the GUI design tool). In short, if you're doing scientific workflows that use local components and free static services available over the web, Taverna is very good. But it's got substantial weaknesses for domains where services are secured, costly or dynamic. Far more information than I've mentioned is available online at http://taverna.sourceforge.net/index.php?doc=docroot.html I hope this is informative. :-) Donal. [* I understand that there's work ongoing to add some kind of security support, but I don't know how that's progressing. It's not in the latest production release for sure. ]

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WS-SecurityPolicy becomes an OASIS Standard
by Hiro Kishimoto 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Hi all, As I mentioned at the OGSA Express Authentication Profile call, WS-SecurityPolicy becomes an OASIS Standard. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WS-SecurityPolicy becomes an OASIS Standard Members have approved version 1.2 of WS-SecurityPolicy as an OASIS Standard. WS-SecurityPolicy defines a base set of assertions that describe how messages are to be secured in the WS-Policy framework. Congratulations to Web Services Secure Exchange (WS-SX) TC co-chairs, Kelvin Lawrence of IBM and Chris Kaler of Microsoft, and to all WS-SX TC members for this accomplishment. http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/200707/msg00001.html -- Hiro Kishimoto

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No OGSA call on July 5
by Hiro Kishimoto 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

Hi all, June 4th is US holiday and many US folks have vacation on July 5th. Thus I would propose to have NO call on July 5th. If you want to have a call on this Thursday (Service Level Terms or Workflow), please let me know. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Teleconference minutes - 2 July 2007 - Security / Logistics
by Andreas Savva 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

Teleconference minutes are on gridforge: Security (M. Behrens) https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14654?nav=1 Logistics (A. Savva) https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14655?nav=1 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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Re: [ogsa-wg] Open Science Grid: TIGRE site does not show up in ReSS ISSUE=3712 PROJ=71
by Alan Sill 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Hmm. Idle batch queue was supposed to be open to all grid users. Does TIGRE have its own queue? WIll have to review this again tomorrow... On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Chaffin, David wrote: > I mentioned previously that there aren't any tigre users defined to > lsf. > cms appears to be the only grid users that are defined. > > David

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Re: [ogsa-wg] Open Science Grid: TIGRE site does not show up in ReSS ISSUE=3712 PROJ=71
by Alan Sill 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Queue rearrangements appear to have been destructive to all except CMS OSG jobs: alansill@tigretest ~]$ globusrun-ws -submit -F https:// antaeus.hpcc.ttu.edu:9443 -Ft LSF -streaming -c /usr/bin/id Delegating user credentials...Done. Submitting job...Done. Job ID: uuid:ab39016c-28de-11dc-ba50-003018a434f4 Termination time: 07/03/2007 20:56 GMT Current job state: Failed Destroying job...Done. Cleaning up any delegated credentials...Done. globusrun-ws: Job failed: The executable could not be started. idle: User cannot use the queue. Job not submitted. I get this when mapped as wither a TIGRE or CDF user, but not when I assert a CMS proxy. On Jul 2, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Alan Sill wrote: > Don't knwo why OSG monitoring is failing on antaeus, will check it > out. Alan Sill, Ph.D TIGRE Senior Scientist, High Performance Computing Center Adjunct Professor of Physics TTU ==================================================================== : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: Alan.Sill(a)ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ====================================================================

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Notes from Joint OGSA WG AuthN/AuthZ call
by Alan Sill 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

OGSA AuthN/AuthZ joint call Chris David Mark Morgan Andrew Grimshaw FrankSiebenlist Jack Hiro Kishimoto Alan Sill Andreas Savva Stephen Agenda items: OGSA-AuthZ update (David Chadwick) OGSA-AuthN update (Alan Sill) David summarized the current state of the OGSA-AuthZ work. No progress or changes have taken place since OGF-20 on the document set from the AuthZ work groupl Jargon for below: PDP = policy decision point PEP = policy enforcement point PIP = policy information point GFD-66 and 67 (65?) status GFD-66 was intended to describe the relation between PDPs and PEPs Previous version of GFD-66 based on SAML 1.1 was implemented by several groups and found to be insufficient. An architecture document was written by David and others to propose 3 protocols: one for pull of credentials from an IdP or AA according to any of several protocols profiled by OASIS and others, an XACML protocol, and a credential validation service profile defined according to WS-trust. Alan requested that David get a document number for this architecture document and David agreed to move this along the path to formalization. It would be good to publish this as an informational document, with the 3 protocols pulled into separate documents. Frank said that progress at Argonne on this has been slowed by work being done for GT4.2 - all security programmers have been pulled onto that work and have not had sufficient time available for standards work. GFD-66 had value but does not extend to sufficiently realistic complex real-world use case requirements, for example validating signed credentials, interactions with PIPs, etc. For requirements gathering, David put up a wiki but got very few submissions. Stephen points out that people see a need for security but do not see the relevance of the work done here, and socialization of the work being done here is not sufficiently seen as connected to real-world needs. Alan agreed that this is an important component of the work and is exactly what Duane, mark and Andrew have been trying to do in the requirements-gathering work they have been doing for the short-term AuthN documentation work they have been done. Frank did not understand the disconnect, as the XACML work for example has been driven by strong communication between developers and community segments that have requested this work. Andrew says that the exercise of writing a use-case document has proven itself even in circumstances in which the use cases are thought to be well- known. Stephen and Alan felt this to be true even though writing such documents can be a chore. People are often stuck on simple cases when the community doing work on standards is often focused on more advanced use cases. Andrew pointed out that documenting even the simple use cases is of value and must be written down to get rid of this barrier for users; some of the work being done for the HPC profile was driven by this need. Last week David sent out a document written from the point of view of Authorization meant to match some of the current "simple AuthN" work. Mark more or less simultaneously requested such a document. Discussion followed as to whether AuthZ can be folded into the current security profile "express" documentation work being done, or instead whether another document to address "express authZ" should be written. Andrew prefers simple short documents over grand scheme documents at this stage. Another document in this series entitled "OGSA Security Profile 2.0 - Authorization" would be helpful. David agreed to look at this and will go through the current set from this perspective. Moving on to authentication topics Alan is ready now to restart work on the OGSA-AuthN topics. Motivations here include examining the technical requirements of implementations and ensuring that the documentation and standards set offered by OGSA is sufficiently flexible and well-specified to allow interoperable implementations based on different technologies. As an example, Alan asks why Ws- Security is so SOAP-oriented, when grid implementations can be written based on the same WSDL and XML that could provide code using different RPC methods? Other motivations include ensuring that Shibboleth grid integration can be done on a well-defined standards basis within OGSA, and while this is largely an AuthZ question, we need to make sure that the OGSA-AuthN pieces and basis for this work are sufficiently documented, understood and specified. A documentation call series will be started sometime in July to get this work going. Simultaneously, work should be continued to complete the "express profile" documentation series. Hiro asked about the timing of the next joint call. David has Sep. 13 down as the next joint call. Hiro offered time at the Sunnyvale F2F Aug. 13-16. Alan Sill, Ph.D TIGRE Senior Scientist, High Performance Computing Center Adjunct Professor of Physics TTU ==================================================================== : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: Alan.Sill(a)ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ====================================================================

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Primer v2
by Andrew Grimshaw 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

All, I've uploaded the latest draft to gridforge. A http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc14652?nav=1

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Call for Book Chapters: Market-Oriented Grid Computing
by Rajkumar Buyya 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Dear All: Considering the recent collection of use-cases on "Resource Barter Services" and pricing grid services, I thought some of you might be interested in contributing a chapter for the proposed book on: Market-Oriented Grid Computing We have been interacting with Wiley who have shown strong interest in publishing the proposed book. A formal Call for Chapters is enclosed. Those untested in contributing a chapter, please contact me directly. Also, if you know a colleague who might be interested in this topic, please share the attached documents. Best regards Raj ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Rajkumar Buyya Associate Professor and Reader Grid Computing and Distributed Systems (GRIDS) Lab Dept. of Computer Science and Software Engineering The University of Melbourne ICT Building, 111, Barry Street, Carlton Melbourne, VIC 3053, Australia Phone: +61-3-8344 1344 (office); +61-0431385688 (home) Fax: +61-3-9348 1184; Email: raj(a)csse.unimelb.edu.au URL: http://www.buyya.com | http://www.gridbus.org/~raj ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Teleconference minutes - 28 June 2007 - Info model
by Hiro Kishimoto 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Minutes for Info model session attached. Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14651 Thanks Donal for taking nodes, -- Hiro Kishimoto OGSA Teleconference - 28 June 2007 - Info model =============================================== * Participants Chris Kantarjiev (Oracle) Laurence Field (CERN) Felix Ehm (CERN) Ellen Stokes (IBM) Balazs Konya (Lund University) Donal Fellows (UMAN) Sergio Andreozzi (INFN) Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu) Andreas Savva (Fujitsu) ZackK Minutes: Donal Fellows * June 7 minutes accepted * action items review See GLUE-WG minutes from 14 June - http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/glue-wg/2007-June/000070.html 1: draft use case docs: DONE, uploaded to Glue Wiki 2: Ellen to speak to rm-wg: NOT DONE 3: pull jds & ogsa on opening storage discussion: DONE but no response 4: upload Glue 1.3: DONE 5: coordinator(==Felix) introduce himself to telecon: DONE worries about SE schema being driven by SRM transfer relevant ogsa AIs to GlueWG: Agreed and closed at OGSA-WG side. * AI-0607a: Doug or Chris S to look at the use cases template and consider mapping the SAS use cases to this template. - Can be added to the wiki or mailed to the group. * AI-0607b: Doug to test if attributes on the Execution Environment can address the need for boolean capabilities. * Ellen's CIM doc progress draft 8 reflects progress so far now being balloted hoping for a "slam dunk" major change: how to define a container model object use Computer System specialize with profile (open Q: where to do profiling work, DMTF or OGF) on target for publish in Aug/Sept doc to go to WG Final Call; end date: July 12, 2007 please get comments to Ellen by EOB July 9, 2007 * glue 2.0 discussion getting comments/feedback need more work on storage element ALL: please send suggestions for places to advertise the use-case doc 2.0 draft: some questions about how to communicate which Computing Share (queue) to use during submission some bugs with picture rendering WGs to contact re storage element schema: OGSA-DATA OGSA-DMI OGSA-ByteIO What about relationship with CIM schema? Extension? Ellen is best person to talk to first Sergio is going to do presentation on Glue to DMTF Alliance Parter Technology Summit (July 17-21 Portland Oregon)

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[Invitation] Express Authentication Profile (Duane Merrill) @ 2007-07-02 5pm - 6pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Express Authentication Profile (Duane Merrill) Time: 2007-07-02 5pm - 6pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA Express AuthN profiles (Duane) Duane has updated the three EAP security profile documents on Gridforge with some minor revisions, including clarifications, fixes to requirement-numbering inconsistencies, and added an example SOAP message meeting the requirements of the X.509 message-level binding assertion policy. - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spuc A question for the group: Would it be a good idea to also profile a Kerberos message-level binding assertion policy within the OGSA-SP-SecureSoapMessaging profile? The document currently profiles X.509 and UsernameToken binding policies, primarily because of their widespread use / ease-of-adoption. Thoughts? 3) Tracker item review (Duane) Issue tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/isuc - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spsa - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spss - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spst Minutes approval June 18: Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=Z2tlZmg3MmZuMzVmY2FnOG… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) @ 2007-07-02 6pm - 7pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) Time: 2007-07-02 6pm - 7pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Profile Interoperability (David Snelling) 3) OGSA Primer review (Andrew 30 min) - Agreed that the proposed structure of this document is fine. - Andrew is working on a new draft. He is updating the infrastructure section. He will upload a new draft by the next call. 4) August F2F meeting update (30 min Hiro) Please answer your availability through SurveyMonkey. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=88233875297 - Corporate Inn can give us $129 per night and St. Francis Arms can give us $89. And both hotels still have many available room now. Many people prefer Corporate Inn but St. Francis Arms give us better rate. - Session schedule review - Group dinner (Tuesday or Monday) Minutes approval June 11: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14606 Action Item review AI-0511c: Steve Newhouse volunteered to look into the possible next documents for the EMS Architecture and draw up a proposal AI-0611f: Dave S will use the HPC Profile wiki page as a starting point and produce a first draft for the interop wiki page, by the July 2 call AI-0611g: Jem will ask the people involved in the HP WSRF implementation about the possibility of taking part in the interop. AI-0611h: Once the wiki page is set up, Hiro will ask the IBM and HP OGF Board members for their teams to take part. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NG1rdTYzM2UxNGs3MzdsMX… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Updated Invitation] General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) @ 2007-07-02 6pm - 7pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) Time: 2007-07-02 6pm - 7pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Profile Interoperability (David Snelling) 3) OGSA Primer review (Andrew 30 min) - Agreed that the proposed structure of this document is fine. - Andrew is working on a new draft. He is updating the infrastructure section. He will upload a new draft by the next call. 4) August F2F meeting update (30 min Hiro) Please answer your availability through SurveyMonkey. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=88233875297 - Corporate Inn can give us $129 per night and St. Francis Arms can give us $89. And both hotels still have many available room now. Many people prefer Corporate Inn but St. Francis Arms give us better rate. - Session schedule review - Group dinner (Tuesday or Monday) Minutes approval June 11: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14606 Action Item review AI-0511c: Steve Newhouse volunteered to look into the possible next documents for the EMS Architecture and draw up a proposal AI-0611f: Dave S will use the HPC Profile wiki page as a starting point and produce a first draft for the interop wiki page, by the July 2 call AI-0611g: Jem will ask the people involved in the HP WSRF implementation about the possibility of taking part in the interop. AI-0611h: Once the wiki page is set up, Hiro will ask the IBM and HP OGF Board members for their teams to take part. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NG1rdTYzM2UxNGs3MzdsMX… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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For the minutes
by Laurence Field 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

The person coordinating the Storage Schema is Felix Ehm.. Laurence

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New draft of GLUE 2.0 Specification
by Sergio Andreozzi 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Hi everybody, we have just uploaded a new draft of the GLUE 2.0 specification. Here are the main changes: - clarify difference between computing resource and computing element - from Gerson Galang use case: single computing service in front of two different batch systems - general clean-up - inclusion of first UML Class diagram for Storage Element (description to be added) - added activity entity - promoted share entity as a main concept you can find it in the draft section of GLUE WG document repository: http://forge.ogf.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.glue-wg/docman.roo… we plan to provide a preview of the new changes in the tomorrow call of the OGSA Resource Management Design Team phonecall: http://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=N25vaWg5MjQ4NTRzOWJpdTU0c3VwMWZzcm… (we apologize for the short-term advise) We will set up a phonecall next week for the GLUE WG. Comments/questions are always welcome. Best regards, Sergio and Balazs -- Sergio Andreozzi INFN-CNAF, Tel: +39 051 609 2860 Viale Berti Pichat, 6/2 Fax: +39 051 609 2746 40126 Bologna (Italy) Web: http://www.cnaf.infn.it/~andreozzi

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Re: [ogsa-wg] [glue-wg] New draft of GLUE 2.0 Specification
by Sergio Andreozzi 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Hi Gerson, Gerson Galang wrote: > Thanks for integrating our requirements into the new GLUE 2.0 spec. What > you have in the draft will work for us now. > > The only thing I want to comment on is the ComputingShare's relationship > with the ComputingResource and ComputingService entities. If a > ComputingShare is an abstraction of a queue this is not always the case. That's why we have a different naming/definition. For instance, in the LSF batch system you can use hierarchical fair sharing in order to define different utilization targets for jobs entering the same queue. The scheduling will consider the group to which the job was mapped. Therefore you can have, for instance, one queue with three different utilization targets for group A, B and C or three queues for each of them. At the GLUE level, they will appear the same, via the share concept. > and the ComputingElement is > an abstraction of the Batch System, in the new version, the batch system is associated to the computing resource. I realize that we have to clean up the properties list (moving the batch system specific from computing element to computing resource). > then there should be a direct > > association between the ComputingShare and the ComputingElement. Having > the ComputingShare linked to the ComputingService will introduce a > number of replicated instances of the same ComputingShare on all the > ComputingServices which is not really necessary. Attached is the diagram > again to refresh your memory on what I think it should look like. > Anyway, just my 2 cents.. I think the relationship between a share and the service is needed because you can expose a certain share via a certain service, while another share with another service. You should be able to know which share for which resource is accessible via a certain service interface. We will add detailed information in the doc revision. Cheers, Sergio > > Cheers, > Gerson > > > On 6/27/07, *Sergio Andreozzi* < sergio.andreozzi(a)cnaf.infn.it > <mailto:sergio.andreozzi@cnaf.infn.it>> wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > we have just uploaded a new draft of the GLUE 2.0 specification. > > Here are the main changes: > > - clarify difference between computing resource and computing element > - from Gerson Galang use case: single computing service in front of two > different batch systems > - general clean-up > - inclusion of first UML Class diagram for Storage Element (description > to be added) > - added activity entity > - promoted share entity as a main concept > > you can find it in the draft section of GLUE WG document repository: > http://forge.ogf.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.glue-wg/docman.roo… > <http://forge.ogf.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.glue-wg/docman.roo…> > > we plan to provide a preview of the new changes in the tomorrow call of > the OGSA Resource Management Design Team phonecall: > http://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=N25vaWg5MjQ4NTRzOWJpdTU0c3VwMWZzcm… > <http://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=N25vaWg5MjQ4NTRzOWJpdTU0c3VwMWZzcm…> > > (we apologize for the short-term advise) > > > We will set up a phonecall next week for the GLUE WG. Comments/questions > are always welcome. > > Best regards, > > Sergio and Balazs > > -- > Sergio Andreozzi > INFN-CNAF, Tel: +39 051 609 2860 > Viale Berti Pichat, 6/2 Fax: +39 051 609 2746 > 40126 Bologna (Italy) Web: > http://www.cnaf.infn.it/~andreozzi > <http://www.cnaf.infn.it/%7Eandreozzi> > _______________________________________________ > glue-wg mailing list > glue-wg(a)ogf.org <mailto:glue-wg@ogf.org> > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/glue-wg > <http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/glue-wg> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Sergio Andreozzi INFN-CNAF, Tel: +39 051 609 2860 Viale Berti Pichat, 6/2 Fax: +39 051 609 2746 40126 Bologna (Italy) Web: http://www.cnaf.infn.it/~andreozzi

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Re: [ogsa-wg] [ogsa-authn-bof] Notes from Joint OGSA WG AuthN/AuthZ call
by Richard Sinnott 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

This is something that we at NeSC (and I know many others) are interested in. My own personal perspective on the OGF AuthN and AuthZ work is that it is something everyone recognises as important, but that the detailed specification of the standards is not something many can/are able to usefully contribute to. (I think this is similar across many of the OGF standards areas). Case in point on the recent thread between David and Tom on how to use SAML AuthZ statements vs XACML contexts etc. How many folk in OGF-land are able to decide on the advantages/disadvantages of these things? We at NeSC are predominantly technology end users supporting a wide variety of e-Research projects. We have applied the implementations of the authN/authZ specs, e.g. the SAML AuthZ API, and identified their limitations etc, but it is only when these things have been implemented by the likes of the Globus and PERMIS teams for example, that we can really play an effective role. I think that this resonates across all of OGF activities be it DAIS specs for building data Grids, JSDL/BES specs for compute Grids etc. I am not sure how mature the Shibboleth/authZ has to be to be in order to be explored within OGF. I definitely think that workshops/OGF meetings showing how folk have built VOs/Campus Grids etc using the likes of Shibboleth, VOMS and other AAs, with authZ technologies such as PERMIS is needed/essential, i.e. I think the authN/authZ work should be as much about sharing expertise in how best to build secure Grids/VOs as it is on pursuing standards. Cheers, Rich -----Original Message----- From: ogsa-wg-bounces(a)ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Blair Dillaway Sent: 26 June 2007 01:10 To: David Chadwick Cc: OGSA Authentication WG BoF; OGSA AUTHZ WG; OGSA-WG Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] [ogsa-authn-bof] Notes from Joint OGSA WG AuthN/AuthZ call I don't remember any serious discussion of chartering work in this area, either within the AuthZ WG or elsewhere. So I can only surmise people haven't felt this area is adequately mature. The sessions Von hosted on Grid-Shib technology at OGF's last year certainly indicated a diverse set of approaches were being explored. Did you and Von discuss this in drafting the current charter? Do you believe things have evolved to the point where we could build critical mass around work in this area? (Of course, I'd love to hear from anyone who thinks the OGF should be doing work in this area.) Regards, Blair David Chadwick wrote: > > Hi Blair > > Interestingly there is one aspect of authz that has a significant > amount of user interest and that is merging attributes from Shibboleth > and Grids to be used together for authz decision making. But this is > currently not within the scope of the OGF OGSA Authz group's work plan. > So what does this indicate? > > regards > > David > > ***************************************************************** > David W. Chadwick, BSc PhD > Professor of Information Systems Security The Computing Laboratory, > University of Kent, Canterbury, CT2 7NF Skype Name: davidwchadwick > Tel: +44 1227 82 3221 > Fax +44 1227 762 811 > Mobile: +44 77 96 44 7184 > Email: D.W.Chadwick(a)kent.ac.uk > Home Page: http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/staff/dwc8/index.html > Research Web site: > http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/research/groups/iss/index.html > Entrust key validation string: MLJ9-DU5T-HV8J PGP Key ID is 0xBC238DE5 > > ***************************************************************** -- ogsa-wg mailing list ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg

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[Cancelled Event] Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) @ 2007-06-28 8am - 9am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Hiro Kishimoto cancelled the following event: Title: Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) Time: 2007-06-28 8am - 9am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing ** Detailed Agenda TBD *** Minutes approval June 7: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14603 Action Item review * AI-0607c: Laurence will write up (a) small chart of what this design team will do (plan or schedule) and, (b) generic information services architecture in a simple chart. You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Reminder] Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) @ 2007-06-28 09:00 - 10:00 ()
by Google Calendar 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) Time: 2007-06-28 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) "Container and BES Model in OGSA Grid" Final document review (Ellen Stokes, 30min) Ellen will update the container/service doc early this week so it will be ready for Thursday call where we can announce workgroup last call (in parallel with the MOF chnages being balloted at the TC). 3) GLUE work review (Laurence and Sergio, 30 min) Laurence or Sergio want to discuss/review where things stand with their GLUE work. Minutes approval June 7: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14600 Action Item review * AI-0607a: Doug or Chris S to look at the use cases template and consider mapping the SAS use cases to this template. - Can be added to the wiki or mailed to the group. * AI-0607b: Doug to test if attributes on the Execution Environment can address the need for boolean capabilities. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=N25vaWg5MjQ4NTRzOWJpdT… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Reminder] Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) @ 2007-06-28 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Google Calendar 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) Time: 2007-06-28 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing ** Detailed Agenda TBD *** Minutes approval June 7: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14603 Action Item review * AI-0607c: Laurence will write up (a) small chart of what this design team will do (plan or schedule) and, (b) generic information services architecture in a simple chart. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWNncGZqcjdmc2xsNWxzbz… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) @ 2007-06-28 9am - 10am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) Time: 2007-06-28 9am - 10am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) "Container and BES Model in OGSA Grid" Final document review (Ellen Stokes, 30min) Ellen will update the container/service doc early this week so it will be ready for Thursday call where we can announce workgroup last call (in parallel with the MOF chnages being balloted at the TC). 3) GLUE work review (Laurence and Sergio, 30 min) Laurence or Sergio want to discuss/review where things stand with their GLUE work. Minutes approval June 7: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14600 Action Item review * AI-0607a: Doug or Chris S to look at the use cases template and consider mapping the SAS use cases to this template. - Can be added to the wiki or mailed to the group. * AI-0607b: Doug to test if attributes on the Execution Environment can address the need for boolean capabilities. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=N25vaWg5MjQ4NTRzOWJpdT… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) @ 2007-06-28 8am - 9am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) Time: 2007-06-28 8am - 9am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing ** Detailed Agenda TBD *** Minutes approval June 7: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14603 Action Item review * AI-0607c: Laurence will write up (a) small chart of what this design team will do (plan or schedule) and, (b) generic information services architecture in a simple chart. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWNncGZqcjdmc2xsNWxzbz… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Teleconference minutes - 25 June 2007 - Roadmap
by Andreas Savva 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Attached Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14632?nav=1 -- Andreas Savva OGSA Teleconference - 25 June 2007 - Roadmap ============================================ * Participants Chris Jordan (SDSC) Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu) Fred Maciel (Hitachi) ZackK Andreas Savva (Fujitsu) Dave Snelling (Fujitsu) Minutes: Andreas Savva * Summary of New Actions AI-0625a: Hiro will check number and status of the info model documents and send the information to Chris J (via tracker) AI-0625b: Chris J will send a mail to the list asking people if there are other documents that need to be added - Include a list of documents that are currently in the Roadmap for easy reference * Minutes, 18 June 2007, approved with no changes * Action Item Review - AI-0416b: Received information about WS-Naming and added new table. Closed - AI-0416c: Entry updated. Closed - AI-0416e: Removed; Closed - AI-0416f: Not done yet but created a new tracker artifact for it; closed - AI-0418a: Updated; Closed - AI-0418b: This is for Michael B. Chris J will contact him - AI-0418c: Assign tracker to Chris J; to check overall status; specific portions could be delegated to other people. Hiro has already checked a number of documents. * Roadmap review - Should the Reference Model be added to the Roadmap document? - Agreed that it should. It is not an OGSA document but it is relevant and the Roadmap is not just for OGSA produced documents - At the moment there are two documents but these will end up as a single normative document - The 'Reconciliation' document is a separate (third) informational document and another entry will have to be added - Hiro created a tracker for these documents and assigned it to Chris J who will contact Paul S and Dave S and get this information - Information model documents? Still three documents. AI-0625a: Hiro will check number and status of the info model documents and send the information to Chris J (via tracker) - The window for adding new entries in this version of the Roadmap is closing. AI-0625b: Chris J will send a mail to the list asking people if there are other documents that need to be added - Include a list of documents that are currently in the Roadmap for easy reference Next call is July 9

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link to kepler
by Andrew Grimshaw 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

http://kepler-project.org/

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[Cancelled Event] Glossary (Jem Treadwell) @ 2007-06-25 17:00 - 18:00 ()
by OGSA WG 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

OGSA WG cancelled the following event: Title: Glossary (Jem Treadwell) Time: 2007-06-25 17:00 - 18:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0625 Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Full document review (Jem Treadwell) Revised draft will be available before the call. 3) when publish (Jem Treadwell) How (or if) to publish the glossary separately from Architecture doc Minutes approval - June 11: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14605 Action Item review AI-0611a: Jem/Hiro will add to the agenda of the next Glossary call a discussion on how to publish the Glossary document AI-0611b: Jem will ask Donal F and Dave S to review the definition of 'state' and finalize it AI-0611c: Jem will ask the RM-WG chairs to consider the 'pool' term as part of their glossary AI-0611d: Jem will talk with Dave B on how to proceed with the Data terms and report back on the next call AI-0611e: Hiro will add to the next Roadmap call agenda a discussion on the relation of OGSA and Reference Model; and whether to include a description of that relation in the Roadmap. You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Roadmap (Chris Jordan) @ 2007-06-25 6pm - 7pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 23 Jun '07

23 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Roadmap (Chris Jordan) Time: 2007-06-25 6pm - 7pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0625 Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document review roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 Minutes approval June 18: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14620 Action Item review * AI-0416b: Chris J to ask andrew grimshaw for implementation status of WS-Naming * AI-0416c: Andreas S to update JSDL entry * AI-0416e: Chris J to remove IUDD from the spreadsheet * AI-0416f: Chris J to look into status of RSS (Donal Fellows) and whether it should be included in the Roadmap * AI-0618a: Chris J will update WS-Naming table to reflect the new status (implemented) * AI-0618b: The figure in Appendix A needs some rework. In particular delete WS-BaseNotification 1.3 from the WSRF box and format the text boxes (WSRF, WSN) so that they are both in 'foundation' or outside * AI-0618c: Chris J will add and assign a tracker artifact to check the status of all documents You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=Nmg3OXJwZThsc2xhbmhlb2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Glossary (Jem Treadwell) @ 2007-06-25 5pm - 6pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 23 Jun '07

23 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Glossary (Jem Treadwell) Time: 2007-06-25 5pm - 6pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0625 Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Full document review (Jem Treadwell) Revised draft will be available before the call. 3) when publish (Jem Treadwell) How (or if) to publish the glossary separately from Architecture doc Minutes approval - June 11: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14605 Action Item review AI-0611a: Jem/Hiro will add to the agenda of the next Glossary call a discussion on how to publish the Glossary document AI-0611b: Jem will ask Donal F and Dave S to review the definition of 'state' and finalize it AI-0611c: Jem will ask the RM-WG chairs to consider the 'pool' term as part of their glossary AI-0611d: Jem will talk with Dave B on how to proceed with the Data terms and report back on the next call AI-0611e: Hiro will add to the next Roadmap call agenda a discussion on the relation of OGSA and Reference Model; and whether to include a description of that relation in the Roadmap. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YTNicjVybTB2Y2x1NWhrbm… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Stroage Schema Definition
by Laurence Field 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

Dear All, The Glue Schema working group would like to start work on the Storage Schema. Initially the focus will be collecting the use cases. After the the use cases have been collected, version 1.3 of the schema can be evaluated against these use cases and the work to define version 2.0 can start. We are sending this message to invite anyone interested in contributing to this effort to get in touch with the group. If you are interested in participating or know of anyone we should contact, please send an email to the Glue Schema mailing list (glue-wg(a)ogf.org) Thanks Laurence

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OGSA-WG August F2F meeting update
by Hiro Kishimoto 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

Hi all, Since we could not have a quorum for today's general/logistics session, I will ask several questions by email. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1776 (1) Please let us know your availability. If you have not yet answered, please do so through the following SurveyMonkey page sooner than later. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=88233875297 So far, the following folks will plan to come: Attendees in person (9) * Hiro Kishimoto, Fujitsu * Fred Maciel, Hitachi * Michel Drescher, Fujitsu * Mark Morgan, UVa * Ellen Stokes, IBM * David Snelling, Fujitsu * Donal Fellows, UoM * Steve McGough, IC * Chris Kantarjiev, Oracle Dial-in (5) * Hugo Mills, OMII * Laurence Field, CERN * Bahareh Rahmanzadeh Heravi * Adrian Toth, University of Miskolc * David Chadwick, Kent U Apologies (2) * Andrew Grimshaw, UVa * Frank Siebenlist, ANL (2) Accommodation Which hotel should we choose? Corporate Inn can give us $129 per night and St. Francis Arms can give us $89. And both hotels still have many available room now. Many people prefer Corporate Inn but St. Francis Arms give us better rate. (3) Agenda The following is my first-cut session schedule. Comments welcome. * August 13 (Mon): 1-6pm o Workflow (Steve McGough, 2 hour) o JSDL 2.0 reporting (Steve McGough, 2 hour) * August 14 (Tue): 9am-12:30pm o Express Authentication Profiles (Duane Merill and Mark Morgan, 2 hour) o OGSA profile interop (David Snelling, 1.5 hour) * August 14 (Tue): 1:30-6pm o OGSA Roadmap final review (Chris Jordan, 1 hour) o General / Administrative (Hiro Kishimoto, 3 hour) * August 15 (Wed): 9am-12:30pm o Modeling (Ellen, Fred, 2 hour) o Information Services (Laurence Field, 1.5 hour) * August 15 (Wed): 1:30-6pm o Service Level Terms (Steve McGough, 1 hour) o Reference Model report back (Dave, Paul, 1 hour) o DMI reporting (Michel, 1 hour) (4) Group dinner Both Monday and Tuesday work for everyone. But Tuesday is more preferred. Is it ok to have Group dinner on Tuesday? Name 13 (M) 14 (T) 15 (W) Hiro Kishimoto available available available Mark Morgan available preferable ? David Snelling available preferable available Michel Drescher available available available Ellen Stokes available available NA Steve McGough available available available Donal Fellows available preferable available Chris Kantarjiev preferable available available Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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[Reminder] AuthZ-WG joint call (David Chadwick and Alan Sill) @ 2007-06-21 09:00 - 10:00 ()
by Google Calendar 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: AuthZ-WG joint call (David Chadwick and Alan Sill) Time: 2007-06-21 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0621 Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA AuthZ-WG update (David Chadwick) 3) OGSA-AuthN-Wg update (Alan Sill) You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=dGJjNm9nc2o4cjUzZnY1Ym… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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JSDL documents in public comment
by Andreas Savva 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

[Apologies for the cross-posting.] This is a reminder that JSDL-WG has two documents in public comment until July 10. We'd appreciate people reviewing these documents and posting their comments to the public comment tracker. In particular the "JSDL HPC Profile Application Extension" document has already been implemented as part of the HPC Profile SC06 interop. It would be fine for people that have already implemented it to put in a comment to that effect. The second document "JSDL SPMD Application Extension" addresses MPI application requirements. Both documents are fairly short and should not take too long for you to review. > I'd like to alert you to two new documents that have started public > comment. Please find all documents in public comment here: > http://www.ogf.org/gf/docs/?public_comment > > For the recommendation track: > > JSDL HPC Profile Application Extension, Version 1.0. M. Humphrey > et al., via JSDL-WG. > > JSDL SPMD Application Extension, Version 1.0. A. Savva, via > JSDL-WG. > -- Andreas Savva

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[Reminder] Express Authentication Profile (Andrew Grimshaw and Duane... @ 2007-06-18 17:00 - 18:00 ()
by Google Calendar 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Express Authentication Profile (Andrew Grimshaw and Duane Merrill) Time: 2007-06-18 17:00 - 18:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Minutes approval Action Item Review Agenda bashing 2) Express Authentication Profiles review (Andrew and Duane) Current drafts (4 documents) - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spuc Issue tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/isuc - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spsa - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spss - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spst Blair's comments Minutes approval Apr. 31: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14579 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=dnA4NWFuMGhzYmszNm1uYT… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Teleconference minutes - 18 June 2007 - Roadmap
by Andreas Savva 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

Attached and on Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14620?nav=1 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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[Invitation] AuthZ-WG joint call (David Chadwick and Alan Sill) @ 2007-06-21 9am - 10am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: AuthZ-WG joint call (David Chadwick and Alan Sill) Time: 2007-06-21 9am - 10am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0621 Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA AuthZ-WG update (David Chadwick) 3) OGSA-AuthN-Wg update (Alan Sill) You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=dGJjNm9nc2o4cjUzZnY1Ym… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) @ 2007-06-21 8am - 9am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) Time: 2007-06-21 8am - 9am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA Primer review (Andrew 30 min) - Agreed that the proposed structure of this document is fine. - Andrew is working on a new draft. He is updating the infrastructure section. He will upload a new draft by the next call. 3) August F2F meeting update (30 min Hiro) Minutes approval June 11: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14606 Action Item review AI-0511c: Steve Newhouse volunteered to look into the possible next documents for the EMS Architecture and draw up a proposal AI-0511d: Hiro to do another zoomerang to confirm summer F2F dates Hiro has issued the survey. He has received only 10 responses. Hiro will re-send the request and include who has replied so far AI-0611f: Dave S will use the HPC Profile wiki page as a starting point and produce a first draft for the interop wiki page, by the July 2 call AI-0611g: Jem will ask the people involved in the HP WSRF implementation about the possibility of taking part in the interop. AI-0611h: Once the wiki page is set up, Hiro will ask the IBM and HP OGF Board members for their teams to take part. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YXZibGI3cjFmanE4c3RtMX… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Express Authentication Profile (Andrew Grimshaw and Duane... @ 2007-06-18 5pm - 6pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Express Authentication Profile (Andrew Grimshaw and Duane Merrill) Time: 2007-06-18 5pm - 6pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Minutes approval Action Item Review Agenda bashing 2) Express Authentication Profiles review (Andrew and Duane) Issue tracker Blair's comments Minutes approval Apr. 31: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14579 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=dnA4NWFuMGhzYmszNm1uYT… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Reminder] Roadmap (Chris Jordan) @ 2007-06-18 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Google Calendar 17 Jun '07

17 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Roadmap (Chris Jordan) Time: 2007-06-18 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document review roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 Minutes approval June 4: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14580 Action Item review * AI-0402d: Chris J to add new table for 5.2.2 (Core) * AI-0416a: Chris J to confirm the adoption levels for the WS-Addressing and WSRF and WS-N specs * AI-0416b: Chris J to ask andrew grimshaw for implementation status of WS-Naming * AI-0416c: Andreas S to update JSDL entry * AI-0416d: Michael B to remove IUDD from text (ACS entry) * AI-0416e: Chris J to remove IUDD from the spreadsheet * AI-0416f: Chris J to look into status of RSS (Donal Fellows) and whether it should be included in the Roadmap * AI-0604a: Michael B will check SOAP/http usage in Architecture document and update text, probably to say just 'SOAP' * AI-0604b: Michael B will check the formatting of "web services" term and make it consistent through the document * AI-0604c: Michael will revise Figure according to comments You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=cWRxOTE5MDBvdjg2Mm1mZ2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Updated Invitation] Roadmap (Chris Jordan) @ 2007-06-18 6pm - 7pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 16 Jun '07

16 Jun '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: Roadmap (Chris Jordan) Time: 2007-06-18 6pm - 7pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document review roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 Minutes approval June 4: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14580 Action Item review * AI-0402d: Chris J to add new table for 5.2.2 (Core) * AI-0416a: Chris J to confirm the adoption levels for the WS-Addressing and WSRF and WS-N specs * AI-0416b: Chris J to ask andrew grimshaw for implementation status of WS-Naming * AI-0416c: Andreas S to update JSDL entry * AI-0416d: Michael B to remove IUDD from text (ACS entry) * AI-0416e: Chris J to remove IUDD from the spreadsheet * AI-0416f: Chris J to look into status of RSS (Donal Fellows) and whether it should be included in the Roadmap * AI-0604a: Michael B will check SOAP/http usage in Architecture document and update text, probably to say just 'SOAP' * AI-0604b: Michael B will check the formatting of "web services" term and make it consistent through the document * AI-0604c: Michael will revise Figure according to comments You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=cWRxOTE5MDBvdjg2Mm1mZ2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Roadmap (Chris Jordan) @ 2007-06-18 6pm - 7pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 16 Jun '07

16 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Roadmap (Chris Jordan) Time: 2007-06-18 6pm - 7pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document review roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 Minutes approval June 4: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14580 Action Item review * AI-0402d: Chris J to add new table for 5.2.2 (Core) * AI-0416a: Chris J to confirm the adoption levels for the WS-Addressing and WSRF and WS-N specs * AI-0416b: Chris J to ask andrew grimshaw for implementation status of WS-Naming * AI-0416c: Andreas S to update JSDL entry * AI-0416d: Michael B to remove IUDD from text (ACS entry) * AI-0416e: Chris J to remove IUDD from the spreadsheet * AI-0416f: Chris J to look into status of RSS (Donal Fellows) and whether it should be included in the Roadmap * AI-0604a: Michael B will check SOAP/http usage in Architecture document and update text, probably to say just 'SOAP' * AI-0604b: Michael B will check the formatting of "web services" term and make it consistent through the document * AI-0604c: Michael will revise Figure according to comments You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=cWRxOTE5MDBvdjg2Mm1mZ2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Teleconference minutes - 14 June 2007 - Workflow
by Andreas Savva 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

Workflow call minutes are attached. Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14616?nav=1 OGSA Teleconference - 14 June 2007 - Workflow ============================================= * Participants Donal Fellows (UMAN) Andrew Grimshaw (UVA) Chris Kantarjiev (Oracle) Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu) Steve McGough (IC) Mark Morgan (UVA) Steven Newhouse (Microsoft) Bahareh Rahmanzadeh Andreas Savva (Fujitsu) Adrian Toth (Univ of Miskolc) Minutes: Andreas Savva * Approved Minutes with no changes - Apr. 26: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14416 - OGF20 workflow: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc1445 - OGF20 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 * Summary of New Actions AI-0614a: Steven Newhouse will check whether Windows Workflow can also be used with CCS / BES style services AI-0614b: Andreas will put the initial presentation points on the wiki AI-0614c: Andreas will put the initial questionnaire points on the wiki AI-0614d: Steve McGough will compile the list and put it on the wiki AI-0614e: Steve McGough will look for the workflow material from the Berlin GGF - Assign AI-0508a to Donal Fellows * Action Items Review ** AI-0508a: - The action to contact Taverna has no owner - One immediate question, following from the OGF20 discussion, is whether contacting projects for end-user use cases is the right approach - They might have actual use cases; it is worth asking - Taverna is based in Manchester and Donal is the person closest - Donal agreed to contact them, but cannot do so until the week after next - This is not a problem since the next workflow call is in three weeks time - Eventually ask them to do a introductory presentation (see discussion further down) - Assigned action to Donal - Andreas will send reminder to Donal after 1 week * Recap of discussion from the last F2F and followup - Consensus at the last F2F was for a community practice document, before making any decisions on technical work. - Who will contribute? - No volunteers at this time. - Some people indicated that they would be interested in the output; but not to work on producing it - Which language? Unclear - Does it include tools in addition to languages? - Yes, if we are dealing with end user requirements. - Donal mentioned that his current project has a relevant survey report (a project deliverable) but unfortunately it cannot be released yet - It was suggested that the goal should be to do workflow with the services currently available/defined (BES, etc) - What tools are people using? - Windows Workflow was mentioned. Also Platform, Kepler, ... AI-0614a: Steven Newhouse will check whether Windows Workflow can also be used with CCS / BES style services - Andrew volunteered to contact the Kepler project and arrange for a 30 minutes presentation on a future call; with a focus on the use cases they are addressing. - Agreed to postpone this until the group can work out in more detail what the presentations should focus on - Andrew will send an email with the url of their website [done] ** Agreed on the following approach - Prepare a questionnaire and ask projects to fill it in - Select which projects to invite to give presentations based on the questionnaire replies - Provide an outline or key points that the presentations should address - Send invitations to projects once we decide what the presentations should focus on ** Suggested presentation points (initial draft) - How web services fit in - How security is handled - What use cases are addressed - What standard tooling and standards are being using AI-0614b: Andreas will put the initial presentation points on the wiki ** Suggested questionnaire points (initial draft) - User base: grid or not - Technologies used: web services, or .. - Standard tools and standards are they basing their work on - If using a standard why did you choose it? - if chose to build your own; why? - User's key requirements; key decision making - number of deployments/ and how many users they have - What is their future release plan, i.e., where are they planning to be after one year (there were some reservations with adding this in) AI-0614c: Andreas will put the initial questionnaire points on the wiki ** Initial candidate list for presentations - Taverna - Kepler - Triana - OMII-bpel - Microsoft - Platform - Condor - Unicore - ... AI-0614d: Steve McGough will compile the list and put it on the wiki In addition to sending emails to specific projects it was agreed to send emails to the OGSA-WG list and to other related lists. One other list mentioned was the Workflow Management RG. Even though their current focus might be different. There are a number of communities represented there. ** Other input There was an ad-hoc BOF on workflow at the Berlin GGF. It might be worth reviewing the material from there, if available. AI-0614e: Steve McGough will look for the workflow material from the Berlin GGF * Next workflow call -- July 5th

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Grid workflow site
by totha＠iit.uni-miskolc.hu 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

I think, it could be an usable starting point: http://www.gridworkflow.org Regards, Adrian ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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RSS QoS terms
by Donal K. Fellows 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

The RSS QoS terms are listed in the latest draft, at: http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-rss-wg/draft4 Donal.

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[Updated Invitation] Workflow (Steve McGough) @ 2007-06-14 9am - 10am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: Workflow (Steve McGough) Time: 2007-06-14 9am - 10am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Recap on last f2f - The group reached consensus to create a Community Practice track document summarizing the experiences taken so far with workflows. - Discussion of who wishes to be involved with this document. - Discussion of possible languages to reflect on. - Discuss of how to achieve the document. 3) Use cases - Are the current use cased good? - Are we asking the correct people? - Do they match the idea of a community Practice track document. - We need to find people who have had problems with existing languages not just fans. - collection of fail-use-cases? 4) AOB Minutes approval - Apr. 26: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14416 - OGF20 workflow: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc1445 - OGF20 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 Action Item review AI-0508a: Get in contact with Taverna Drill use cases for cyclic dependancy declarations AI-0511b: Michel to pulla workflow strawman poposal together You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=c2xpMGxpcDdmb3Fsampkb2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Workflow (Steve McGough) @ 2007-06-14 9am - 10am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Workflow (Steve McGough) Time: 2007-06-14 9am - 10am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Recap on last f2f - The group reached consensus to create a Community Practice track document summarizing the experiences taken so far with workflows. - Discussion of who wishes to be involved with this document. - Discussion of possible languages to reflect on. - Discuss of how to achieve the document. 3) Use cases - Are the current use cased good? - Are we asking the correct people? - Do they match the idea of a community Practice track document. - We need to find people who have had problems with existing languages not just fans. - collection of fail-use-cases? 4) AOB Minutes approval - Apr. 26: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14416 - OGF20 workflow: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc1445 - OGF20 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 Action Item review AI-0508a: Get in contact with Taverna Drill use cases for cyclic dependancy declarations AI-0511b: Michel to pulla workflow strawman poposal together You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=c2xpMGxpcDdmb3Fsampkb2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Reminder] Service Level Terms (Andrew Grimshaw and Mark Morgan) @ 2007-06-14 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Google Calendar 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Service Level Terms (Andrew Grimshaw and Mark Morgan) Time: 2007-06-14 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0614 Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing ** Detailed Agenda TBD *** Minutes approval Mar. F2F QoX: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14322 OGF20 BoF: ??? Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=aTloMDM1aG5wcDI1cDJobm… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Service Level Terms (Andrew Grimshaw and Mark Morgan) @ 2007-06-14 8am - 9am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Service Level Terms (Andrew Grimshaw and Mark Morgan) Time: 2007-06-14 8am - 9am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0614 Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing ** Detailed Agenda TBD *** Minutes approval Mar. F2F QoX: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14322 OGF20 BoF: ??? Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=aTloMDM1aG5wcDI1cDJobm… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Updated Invitation] Service Level Terms (Andrew Grimshaw and Mark Morgan) @ 2007-06-14 8am - 9am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: Service Level Terms (Andrew Grimshaw and Mark Morgan) Time: 2007-06-14 8am - 9am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0614 Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing ** Detailed Agenda TBD *** Minutes approval Mar. F2F QoX: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14322 OGF20 BoF: ??? Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=aTloMDM1aG5wcDI1cDJobm… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Accommodation for August F2F
by Hiro Kishimoto 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

Hi all, I am now negotiating with our favorite hotels in Sunnyvale about discount room rate. Corporate Inn can give us $129 per night and St. Francis Arms can give us $89. And both hotels still have many available room now. Many people prefer Corporate Inn but St. Francis Arms give us better rate. Which hotel should we choose this time? Thoughts? At latest, we will decide on 21 June General/Logistics call. * [Corporate Inn Sunnyvale|http://www.corpinn.com/] ** 805 E El Camino Real, Sunnyvale, CA 94087 United States ** Phone: 408 220-1000 or Toll Free 888.411.2208 ** 129 USD/night Its sister hotel if Corporate Inn is not available. * [St. Francis Arms|http://stfrancisarms.com/html/location.html ] ** 739 E El Camino Real, Sunnyvale, CA 94087 ** Toll Free: 800.626.7338 ** Voice: 408.738.0505 ** Fax: 408.738.7050 ** E-Mail: mail(a)stfrancisarms.com ** 89 USD/night https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1776 Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Teleconference schedule on calendar
by Andreas Savva 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

As explained on today's logistics call the teleconference schedule is now available *only* on the group's Google calendar, which you can access via the 'Calendar' button on the gridforge ogsa-wg page or using the links at the bottom of this email. One important process change is that we are now putting agendas-in-progress directly into each calendar entry. We are also encouraging design team leaders to edit the agendas of their event entries directly in the calendar. (You can, of course, continue sending agenda updates to Hiro or I, if you prefer.) Please send me an email if you are a design team leader and have a google calendar account and want edit rights to the calendar. [HTML] http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ogsa.wg%40gmail.com [ICAL] http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/ogsa.wg%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics [XML Feed] http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/ogsa.wg%40gmail.com/public/basic -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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Teleconference minutes - 11 June 2007 - Glossary/Logistics
by Andreas Savva 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

Minutes for Glossary and Logistics sessions attached. Gridforge: Glossary: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14605?nav=1 Logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14606?nav=1 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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OGSA-WG Summer interim F2F survey
by Hiro Kishimoto 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

Hi all, OGSA-WG are going to have an interim F2F meeting from August 13 to 15 in Sunnyvale CA. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1776 If you have not yet answered, please let us know your availability through the following SurveyMonkey page sooner than later. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=88233875297 So far, the following folks will plan to come: Attendees in person (8) * Hiro Kishimoto, Fujitsu * Fred Maciel, Hitachi * Michel Drescher, Fujitsu * Mark Morgan, UVa * Ellen Stokes, IBM * David Snelling, Fujitsu * Donal Fellows, UoM * Steve McGough, IC Dial-in (1) * Hugo Mills, OMII Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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[Reminder] General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) @ 2007-06-11 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Google Calendar 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) Time: 2007-06-11 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA primer update (10 min, Andrew) 3) Profile interop update (10 min, David Snelling) 4) New telecon procedure using Google Calendar (10 min, Andreas) Proposal and trial Schedule review 5) Summer F2F meeting update (10 min, Hiro) 6) AoB Minutes approval Mar. F2F data grid: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14322 Mar. F2F JSDL 2.0: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14327 Apr. 5 profile interop: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14390 Apr. 23 logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14411 OGF20 profile interop: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14483 F2F EMS scenarios & logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 May 21 logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14553 Action Item review AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker AI-0314pm-a: Jay (and Andrew) to write up a short paper describing the resolution of data grid usecase/requirements AI-0511c: Steve Newhouse volunteered to look into the possible next documents for the EMS Architecture and draw up a proposal AI-0511d: Hiro to do another zoomerang to confirm summer F2F dates You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NmViYnRiYXRzcjFtaXBla2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Reminder] Glossary (Jem Treadwell) @ 2007-06-11 17:00 - 18:00 ()
by Google Calendar 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Glossary (Jem Treadwell) Time: 2007-06-11 17:00 - 18:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0611 Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA glossary review Jem will send out revised glossary draft before the call. Minutes approval Mar. 1: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14272 Apr. 12: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14399 OGF20 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YTZwaWxvZWd1dDc1ZTUxaD… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) @ 2007-06-11 6pm - 7pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) Time: 2007-06-11 6pm - 7pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA primer update (10 min, Andrew) 3) Profile interop update (10 min, David Snelling) 4) New telecon procedure using Google Calendar (10 min, Andreas) Proposal and trial Schedule review 5) Summer F2F meeting update (10 min, Hiro) 6) AoB Minutes approval Mar. F2F data grid: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14322 Mar. F2F JSDL 2.0: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14327 Apr. 5 profile interop: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14390 Apr. 23 logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14411 OGF20 profile interop: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14483 F2F EMS scenarios & logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 May 21 logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14553 Action Item review AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker AI-0314pm-a: Jay (and Andrew) to write up a short paper describing the resolution of data grid usecase/requirements AI-0511c: Steve Newhouse volunteered to look into the possible next documents for the EMS Architecture and draw up a proposal AI-0511d: Hiro to do another zoomerang to confirm summer F2F dates You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NmViYnRiYXRzcjFtaXBla2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Glossary (Jem Treadwell) @ 2007-06-11 5pm - 6pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Glossary (Jem Treadwell) Time: 2007-06-11 5pm - 6pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0611 Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA glossary review Jem will send out revised glossary draft before the call. Minutes approval Mar. 1: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14272 Apr. 12: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14399 OGF20 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YTZwaWxvZWd1dDc1ZTUxaD… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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OGSA Information Services Design Team co-lead
by Hiro Kishimoto 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

Hi all, Adrian Toth, University of Miskolc, volunteers to serve a co-lead of OGSA Information Services design team and works with Laurence Field. I've updated design team wiki page accordingly. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1618 Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Information service minutes draft from June 7 call
by Hiro Kishimoto 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

OGSA Teleconference - 7 June 2007 - Information Services ======================================================== * Attendees: - ZackK - Ellen Stokes (IBM) - Donal Fellows (UoM) - Sergio Andreozzi (INFN) - Chris Kantarjiev (Oracle) - David Snelling (Fujitsu) - Laurence Field (CERN) - Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu) - Adrian Toth (Univ of Miskolc) Minutes: Hiro Kishimoto * Summary of New Actions - AI-0607c: Laurence will write up (a) small chart of what this design team will do (plan or schedule) and, (b) generic information services architecture in a simple chart. * Agenda Bashing - No Change * House keeping: - Minutes approval: OK o OGF19 EMS o March F2F EMS o Apr. 12 o OGF20 Info svc o F2F info svc - Action Item o AI-0511a: Ferenc Szalai to confirm NorduGrid/KnowARC participation and potential co-leader of IS design team. Adrian Toth volunteers to serve as co-leader: closed * Aims and Objectives - Laurence: What are we trying to achieve? - Hiro: Architecture design and interface specification. - Ellen: OGSA Arch v1.5 (GFD.80) explains current understanding of what is information services for OGSA. It can be starting line. - Laurence: What are the boundaries and constraints? Are we working group or design team? - Hiro: It is now a design team under OGSA-WG. Let's carry on technical work as a design team for a while. In parallel you can write up proposed charter document for formal WG formation. OGF21 can be target date to have charter BoF if we can have enough progress. - No objection against working as a design team. * Fundamentals - Laurence: What is a general architecture? It should be scalable. I propose to use GMA. - Chris: We should learn from R-GMA. - Agreed to learn from multiple existing works. Looking at exiting systems and bring them together. - Hiro: Is info-GIN work useful? They taught us at OGF19. - Laurence: Yes it is. I was and am involved in info-GIN work. - Laurence: What are the building blocks and critical interfaces? - Query interface - How about data model? If you have same model, it is very easy to inter-operate. - We can leverage SRM approach. We keep only basic interface defined. - What sort of queries people makes? - It is schema issue. - There are different kind of queries. - We have many many services. - We should query multiple services. - Use cases should be specified to justify key services. - Gin-INFO work already identify multiple usecases already. - Agreed to specify Query interface. - Hiro: In addition to query interface, do we need push or notification type interface? - Yes. - Agreed to study info-d, OGSA doc v1.5 , and R-GMA, existing implementations as an first step. - We may have more capabilities to define grid interface. * Next call (June 28) - AI-0607c: Laurence will write up (a) small chart of what this design team will do (plan or schedule) and, (b) generic information services architecture in a simple chart.

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Minutes for Session 1
by David Snelling 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

Folks, Minutes from Session 1: June 7, 2007 Attendees: - ZackK - Ellen Stokes - Doug Haigh,SAS - Donal Fellows (UoM) - Sergio Andreozzi - Steve McGough - Chris Kantarjiev - Chris Smith - David Snelling - Laurence Field - Andreas Savva - Hiro Kishimoto Agenda Bashing - No Change House keeping: - Minutes approval from May 24: OK OGF/DMTF Work Register - See WR: http://www.ogf.org/documents/liaison/OGF- DMTFWorkReg20061106.pdf - See Slides: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14581 - WR presented to the GFSG Standards Council call. - They decided to discuss them with both the OGSA WG and the whole of the GFSG. - Take a positive approach with respect to the WR. - Some tasks undertaken in Q1 2007, see slide 3 - There is a partial challenge that we face as a result of communication difficulties inside DMTF. - May also suffer from the Volunteer Army problem, like OGF. - DMTF have only weak processes for dealing with external comments - E. Stokes needed to push inside DMTF to get comments into the right place. - Schema submission to CIM are in process, but still requires proactive external involvement. - The ballot process is very slow. - CIM releases three times a year, and we would like a late summer data for all OGF contributions. - E. Stokes has been promoting the submission in the DMTF and OGF. - Recommendations: - Improve the alliance partner process improved. - Proposal to delegate control of branches of the CIM model to partners. - This would require some further developments required in DMTF, e.g. access to validators. - Questions etc. - Hiro: How have you done this in the past, e.g. JCIM? Some else covered this time period. It did become part of the model. There was more support from inside the DMTF for this work. - Donnal: The approach seems like a good approach. - Ellen: The aim is to maintain DMTF's position as the port of call for all models. - Ellen: The working groups are likely to push back, but the higher levels of the organization will be supportive. - Dave: Is this the set of slides that we are planning to use? Yes. - Donnal: A bit too much text, but are probably of for a phone based call. - Dave: Use a DMTF slide template. Use cases: SAS Use Case: - See: http://forge.ogf.org/sf/sfmain/do/downloadAttachment/projects.glue-wg/ wiki/UseCases?id=atch4434 - The use case focusing of the data model and not on the submission/ management side. - Aim to test the GLUE Schema. - Need for boolean capability resources. Needed for matchmaking. - Need a status testing ability, but this may be provided by BES requirements. - Need to find out what host a job is running on. - The GLUE schema currently does not plan to provide the dynamic details of the final worker nodes. - This might be a disconnect in requirements, but the level of detail needed seems low. - The question may just be the need to clarify what level of the Grid is being exposed. - The schema itself is adequately populated and the use of it may be sufficient to deal with these differences. - Can GLUE be used to expose this much detail? Yes, roughly. Could be addressed to exposure profiles. - In the cluster use case there are plans to expose the details of the work nodes (including dynamic information). - The interface for obtaining this information should be available from the "head" node, even though the information comes from the worker nodes. - The level of detail is a policy decision, and GLUE does not restrict/mandate it use. - Recommendation that examples where only abstract summaries are required. - GLUE does not, however, define this policy language. - Profiles, in addition to the schema itself, should be use to refine required elements. - VO Profile has only high level information - Cluster Profile has lots of details about individual nodes. - It may be possible to use the attributes in the Execution Environment. - Action Doug or Chris: Look at the use cases template and consider mapping the SAS use cases to this template. Can be added to the wiki or mailed to the group. - Action Doug: Test if attributes on the Execution Environment can address the need for boolean capabilities. - The schema is available for the wiki page. - Next Meeting in GLUE WG schedule. Please cross post to OGDS list. -- Take care: Dr. David Snelling < David . Snelling . UK . Fujitsu . com > Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe Limited Hayes Park Central Hayes End Road Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE Reg. No. 4153469 +44-208-606-4649 (Office) +44-7768-807526 (Mobile)

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[Updated Invitation] Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) @ 2007-06-07 9am - 10am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) Time: 2007-06-07 9am - 10am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Aims and Objectives What are we trying to achieve? What are the boundaries and constraints? Who is involved? 3) Fundamentals GMA A general architecture The building blocks The critical interfaces 4) How to proceed Defining the general architecture Identifying the interfaces 5) AOB Minutes approval OGF19 EMS: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14158 March F2F EMS: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14331 Apr. 12: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14400 OGF20 Info svc: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14478 F2F info svc: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14536 Action Item review AI-0511a: Ferenc Szalai to confirm NorduGrid/KnowARC participation and potential co-leader of IS design team. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWpnNDI5OHE3bDhkNjcxY2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Updated Invitation] Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) @ 2007-06-07 8am - 9am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) Time: 2007-06-07 8am - 9am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGF-DMTF work register execution (Ellen Stokes, 30 min) discussion and modification/concurrence of the observations/recommendations on the BES/CIM work that will be discussed at the GFSG plenary on June 12 with the intent to take to DMTF board/exec committee on either June 18 or 25 Material: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14581 Workregister: http://www.ogf.org/documents/liaison/OGF-DMTFWorkReg20061106.pdf 3) SAS usecase (Sergio Andreozzi) Chris Smith has been working with SAS on defining some use cases that we'd like to see addressed within the HPC Profile or some extension to the HPC Profile. For the information side of these use cases, perhaps we can see how the GLUE schema can address them. a use case document that Doug Haigh from SAS shared with Chris earlier this year. From the GLUE perspective, please ignore the job control operations as these would be addressed in an extension to BES, not in GLUE. http://forge.ogf.org/sf/sfmain/do/downloadAttachment/projects.glue-wg/wiki/… Minutes approval May 24: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14567 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=ODh1cTFuNmxzdHYyOTNxOH… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Reminder] Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) @ 2007-06-07 09:00 - 10:00 ()
by Google Calendar 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) Time: 2007-06-07 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing ** Detailed Agenda TBD *** Minutes approval OGF19 EMS: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14158 March F2F EMS: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14331 Apr. 12: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14400 OGF20 Info svc: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14478 F2F info svc: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14536 Action Item review AI-0511a: Ferenc Szalai to confirm NorduGrid/KnowARC participation and potential co-leader of IS design team. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWpnNDI5OHE3bDhkNjcxY2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Reminder] Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) @ 2007-06-07 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Google Calendar 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) Time: 2007-06-07 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGF-DMTF work register execution (Ellen Stokes) discussion and modification/concurrence of the observations/recommendations on the BES/CIM work that will be discussed at the GFSG plenary on June 12 with the intent to take to DMTF board/exec committee on either June 18 or 25 Material: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14581 Workregister: http://www.ogf.org/documents/liaison/OGF-DMTFWorkReg20061106.pdf Minutes approval May 24: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14567 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=ODh1cTFuNmxzdHYyOTNxOH… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) @ 2007-06-07 9am - 10am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) Time: 2007-06-07 9am - 10am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing ** Detailed Agenda TBD *** Minutes approval OGF19 EMS: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14158 March F2F EMS: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14331 Apr. 12: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14400 OGF20 Info svc: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14478 F2F info svc: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14536 Action Item review AI-0511a: Ferenc Szalai to confirm NorduGrid/KnowARC participation and potential co-leader of IS design team. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWpnNDI5OHE3bDhkNjcxY2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Updated Invitation] Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) @ 2007-06-07 9am - 10am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: Information Service (Laurence Field and Adrian Toth) Time: 2007-06-07 9am - 10am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing ** Detailed Agenda TBD *** Minutes approval OGF19 EMS: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14158 March F2F EMS: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14331 Apr. 12: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14400 OGF20 Info svc: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14478 F2F info svc: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc/doc14536 Action Item review AI-0511a: Ferenc Szalai to confirm NorduGrid/KnowARC participation and potential co-leader of IS design team. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWpnNDI5OHE3bDhkNjcxY2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) @ 2007-06-07 8am - 9am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) Time: 2007-06-07 8am - 9am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGF-DMTF work register execution (Ellen Stokes) discussion and modification/concurrence of the observations/recommendations on the BES/CIM work that will be discussed at the GFSG plenary on June 12 with the intent to take to DMTF board/exec committee on either June 18 or 25 Material: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14581 Workregister: http://www.ogf.org/documents/liaison/OGF-DMTFWorkReg20061106.pdf Minutes approval May 24: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14567 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=ODh1cTFuNmxzdHYyOTNxOH… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Fw: Core options writeup
by Alan Sill 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

Begin forwarded message: > From: "Dan Fraser" <fraser(a)mcs.anl.gov> > Date: May 1, 2007 3:27:20 PM CDT > To: <gt-user(a)globus.org> > Subject: [gt-user] Fw: Core options writeup > > Hi Committers, > > The CDIGS team is currently evaluating whether we need to update > the Java WS Core and C WS Core at this time to conform to the final > version of the WSRF specifications. Depending on the implementation > model, this could increase both the support and implementation > complexity of the toolkit. We would like to have some email > discussion on this topic to understand what your requirements are > and determine the best course to pursue. > > Joe, Rachana, Charles, and Ravi have been diligently working to put > together the attached document. Please help us understand if the > benefits of upgrading are worth the increased support/ > implementation complexity and lack of backward compatability for > our user community. > > I would also like to propose a concall meeting on Monday May 14 at > 11:00am CT to discuss this further. > > Thank you, > Dan Alan Sill, Ph.D TIGRE Senior Scientist, High Performance Computing Center Adjunct Professor of Physics TTU ==================================================================== : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: Alan.Sill(a)ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ====================================================================

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Roadmap
by Michael Behrens 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Attached is an updated image for the disscussion later today.

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Minutes of OGSA-WG Security session 2007-05-31
by Alan Sill 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Here are the minutes of OGSA-WG Security call 2007-05-31, 8:00 - 9:00 am CDT. Hiro, can you adjust the list of attendees as necessary? Thanks, Alan Minutes of OGSA Security session Attendees: Jack Andrew Grimshaw Duane Merrill Mark Morgan Chris Alan Sill Frank Siebenlist Hugo Mills Minutes approval - Apr. 23: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14410 - OGF20: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14473 - F2F AuthZ: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 -- Approved as posted Action Item review * AI-0409b: Liberty spec statements on EPRs (compatibility or intent vs OGSA BSP) should be checked; are these true and is there some difference in interpretation that is unresolvable? - Duane will do an initial review to be discussed on the April 23 teleconference -- Duane concludes that the language and policies are not inconsistent, but not wire compatible. Liberty is not only an EPR provider, but also authentication service. We have not profiled such an implementation, but observe that the schemas are different and will require different parsing. At this level, they are not compatible as different implementations of a standard might be, but are not incompatible in concept. There is no equivalent to some Liberty ideas in terms of use of identity as a client in what we have profiled so far. There is also a difference in semantics that Duane regards as a deficiency in that security mechanisms used to transport the message-level content are limited to single strings in Liberty EPRs. The different URI components referenced are not as flexible as the Secure Addressing profile. Andrew refers to a mesage sent out March 20 by Duane (he will refresh this reference with a new e-mail shortly) and proposes closing this action item. This was agreed. Note the discussion can be moved to the tracker item on this topic. 2) Use case document and profile review Andrew noted comments made by by Alan regarding discoverability and service requirement description features and indicated that these are or will be addressed in the OGSA Security Profile 2.0 - Secure Addressing document. He displayed this document, which is on the repository, on Glance for discussion. This covers usage of EPRs that are descriptive, and allow the client to know what it needs to do to talk to a given service. The heart of the document is in he definition of hte security context in section 4. The security contacts go into the metadata piece in the EPR. An example is given in the document (see XML beginning with "<secaddr:SecurityContext>..."). The example given in the document describes a service that expects transport-level X.509, as is common practice now, followed by message-leel security for some portion of the transaction. In this particular case, it also says how you would expect to authenticate. The "contexts" allow you to define items that can be described in later profiles. From a process point of view, Andrew wanted to address a few comments received so far at this point. The trackers are the ones in GridForge in the OGSA-WG by Hiro for these items (see forge.gridforge.org and navigate to OGSA-WG then Trackers to get there). Under "Addressing" there are a couple of specific items that need to be dealt with at this point: - A comment was made by Hiro that WS-SecurityPolicy has a mechanism for describing how to do such descriptions, but not where. Andrew responded that this has been slow to converge, and is more general than what we are trying to accomplish here. Progress is being made on that front (i.e., SecurityPolicy) and Duane has been studying the draft spec, but the intent here is more specific and aimed to be quicker. We may have to redraft the OGSA work once the WS-SecurityPolicy work is complete, but it is not clear yet how or when. The syntax of the schemas are likely to be different once the OASIS work is complete. (See www.oasis-open.org for further details on this progress -- look for the ws-wx TC public documents.) Andrew proposes an action item to look into this in detail and see if an early recast of our work can be made based on the current status of Ws-SecurityPolicy. Alan noted from the Glance session that an use case examples document has recently been posted in WS-SX (May 15) that may be useful. - Another comment was made by Hiro that use of a MUST ought to appear in the profile documents for security contexts, i.e. "A provider MUST support one of the following..." No one seems to own this comment, which had come up in the face-to-face meeting. Some discussion with Frank followed, in which the necessity to avoid an empty security context was pointed out. Andrew was concerned that any specific limitation will necessarily lose some portion or other of the community, and he, Alan and Frank agreed that what is necessary is for a given community to specify its accepted set of authentication mechanisms and be able to discover, advertise and select inclusion of services based on conformance with their desired set. Section 4.4 of the Secure Addressing document fives an example of such use. Comments were made at this point that the Secure Addressing profile becomes more of a meta-profile when viewed in this context. Interoperability is then expected to be provided in the derived profiles for particular security authentication mechanisms (TLS, X. 509, etc.). Frank pointed out that this introduces another layer, and in this sense is not a true profile in and of itself in the sense that it could ensure ineroperability, but Duane and Andrew and Alan felt that the existence of this layer is in fact essential for ultimate interoperability. After discussion, this was agreed to and the comment was closed as "resolved." - Would this make the OGSA BSP and SP secure channel obsolete? Andrew believes that it will, once complete. Both intend to put key information into the EPR. The combination of Secure Addressing and specification of the transport (by the Secure Transport document) will eventually supply a key set that will supersede BSP and secure channel for the reason that the BSP core does not provide all of the features described here. The comment was closed with notations made by Andrew to this effect. Next call in this series will be on June 18 (Monday) 6 pm Eastern. Alan Sill, Ph.D TIGRE Senior Scientist, High Performance Computing Center Adjunct Professor of Physics TTU ==================================================================== : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: Alan.Sill(a)ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ====================================================================

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[Invitation] Roadmap (Michael Behrens) @ 2007-06-04 18:00 - 19:00 (ogsa-wg@ogf.org)
by OGSA WG 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Roadmap (Michael Behrens) Time: 2007-06-04 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA roadmap discussion (Michael Behrens) Mike will send out his web service context material (appendix B) before the call. OGSA roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Minutes approval Apr. 16: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14404 Action Item review * AI-0402a: Michael B and Hiro K will collaborate to draw a new figure one for Appendix B * AI-0402b: Michael B to clean up usage of 'standard' and 'specification' in Appendix B * AI-0402c: Michael B to delete Figure 2 in Appendix B * AI-0402d: Chris J to add new table for 5.2.2 (Core) * AI-0416a: Chris J to confirm the adoption levels for the WS-Addressing and WSRF and WS-N specs * AI-0416b: Chris J to ask andrew grimshaw for implementation status of WS-Naming * AI-0416c: Andreas S to update JSDL entry * AI-0416d: Michael B to remove IUDD from text (ACS entry) * AI-0416e: Chris J to remove IUDD from the spreadsheet * AI-0416f: Chris J to look into status of RSS (Donal Fellows) and whether it should be included in the Roadmap You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YWIwbm5qcmp1ZjZoY2szZX… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Proposed agenda for June 4th (Monday)
by Hiro Kishimoto 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Hi all, Since Google calender does not send out notification email, I send out manually. On July 4th, We will have only 2nd slot. http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ogsa.wg%40gmail.com When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA roadmap discussion (Michael Behrens) Mike will send out his web service context material (appendix B) before the call. OGSA roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Minutes approval Apr. 16: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14404 Action Item review * AI-0402a: Michael B and Hiro K will collaborate to draw a new figure one for Appendix B * AI-0402b: Michael B to clean up usage of 'standard' and 'specification' in Appendix B * AI-0402c: Michael B to delete Figure 2 in Appendix B * AI-0402d: Chris J to add new table for 5.2.2 (Core) * AI-0416a: Chris J to confirm the adoption levels for the WS-Addressing and WSRF and WS-N specs * AI-0416b: Chris J to ask andrew grimshaw for implementation status of WS-Naming * AI-0416c: Andreas S to update JSDL entry * AI-0416d: Michael B to remove IUDD from text (ACS entry) * AI-0416e: Chris J to remove IUDD from the spreadsheet * AI-0416f: Chris J to look into status of RSS (Donal Fellows) and whether it should be included in the Roadmap -- Hiro Kishimoto

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[Reminder] General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto, David Snelling, and An... @ 2007-05-31 09:00 - 10:00 (ogsa-wg@ogf.org)
by Google Calendar 30 May '07

30 May '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto, David Snelling, and Andreas Savva) Time: 2007-05-31 09:00 - 10:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA primer update (10 min, Andrew) 3) Profile interop update (10 min, David Snelling) 4) New telecon procedure using Google Calendar (10 min, Andreas) Proposal and trial Schedule review 5) Summer F2F meeting update (10 min, Hiro) 6) AoB Minutes approval Mar. F2F data grid: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14322 Mar. F2F JSDL 2.0: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14327 Apr. 5 profile interop: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14390 Apr. 23 logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14411 OGF20 profile interop: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14483 F2F EMS scenarios & logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 May 21 logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14553 Action Item review AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker AI-0314pm-a: Jay (and Andrew) to write up a short paper describing the resolution of data grid usecase/requirements AI-0511c: Steve Newhouse volunteered to look into the possible next documents for the EMS Architecture and draw up a proposal AI-0511d: Hiro to do another zoomerang to confirm summer F2F dates You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bmJwdmJqbWdiOHU1aGFubz… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Reminder] Express Authentication Profile (Andrew Grimshaw, Alan Sil... @ 2007-05-31 08:00 - 09:00 (ogsa-wg@ogf.org)
by Google Calendar 30 May '07

30 May '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Express Authentication Profile (Andrew Grimshaw, Alan Sill and Frank Siebenlist) Time: 2007-05-31 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) usecase and profiles review Minutes approval - Apr. 23: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14410 - OGF20: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14473 - F2F AuthZ: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 Action Item review * AI-0409b: Liberty spec statements on EPRs (compatibility or intent vs OGSA BSP) should be checked; are these true and is there some difference in interpretation that is unresolvable? - Duane will do an initial review to be discussed on the April 23 teleconference You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=aXFkMDJ1NHNhMnYzYWNsMj… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Updated Invitation] General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto, David Snelling, and An... @ 2007-05-31 9am - 10am (ogsa-wg@ogf.org)
by Hiro Kishimoto 30 May '07

30 May '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto, David Snelling, and Andreas Savva) Time: 2007-05-31 9am - 10am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA primer update (10 min, Andrew) 3) Profile interop update (10 min, David Snelling) 4) New telecon procedure using Google Calendar (10 min, Andreas) Proposal and trial Schedule review 5) Summer F2F meeting update (10 min, Hiro) 6) AoB Minutes approval Mar. F2F data grid: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14322 Mar. F2F JSDL 2.0: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14327 Apr. 5 profile interop: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14390 Apr. 23 logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14411 OGF20 profile interop: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14483 F2F EMS scenarios & logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 May 21 logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14553 Action Item review AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker AI-0314pm-a: Jay (and Andrew) to write up a short paper describing the resolution of data grid usecase/requirements AI-0511c: Steve Newhouse volunteered to look into the possible next documents for the EMS Architecture and draw up a proposal AI-0511d: Hiro to do another zoomerang to confirm summer F2F dates You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bmJwdmJqbWdiOHU1aGFubz… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto, David Snelling, and An... @ 2007-05-31 9am - 10am (ogsa-wg@ogf.org)
by Hiro Kishimoto 30 May '07

30 May '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto, David Snelling, and Andreas Savva) Time: 2007-05-31 9am - 10am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA primer update (10 min, Andrew) 3) Profile interop update (10 min, David Snelling) 4) New telecon procedure using Google Calendar (10 min, Andreas) Proposal and trial Schedule review 5) Summer F2F meeting update (10 min, Hiro) 6) AoB Minutes approval Mar. F2F data grid: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14322 Mar. F2F JSDL 2.0: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14327 Apr. 5 profile interop: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14390 Apr. 23 logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14411 OGF20 profile interop: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14483 F2F EMS scenarios & logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 May 21 logistics: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14553 Action Item review AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker AI-0314pm-a: Jay (and Andrew) to write up a short paper describing the resolution of data grid usecase/requirements AI-0511c: Steve Newhouse volunteered to look into the possible next documents for the EMS Architecture and draw up a proposal AI-0511d: Hiro to do another zoomerang to confirm summer F2F dates You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bmJwdmJqbWdiOHU1aGFubz… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Express Authentication Profile (Andrew Grimshaw?, Alan Si... @ 2007-05-31 8am - 9am (ogsa-wg@ogf.org)
by Hiro Kishimoto 30 May '07

30 May '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Express Authentication Profile (Andrew Grimshaw?, Alan Sill and Frank Siebenlist) Time: 2007-05-31 8am - 9am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) usecase and profiles review Minutes approval - Apr. 23: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14410 - OGF20: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14473 - F2F AuthZ: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 Action Item review * AI-0409b: Liberty spec statements on EPRs (compatibility or intent vs OGSA BSP) should be checked; are these true and is there some difference in interpretation that is unresolvable? - Duane will do an initial review to be discussed on the April 23 teleconference You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=aXFkMDJ1NHNhMnYzYWNsMj… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Updated Invitation] Express Authentication Profile (Andrew Grimshaw?, Alan Si... @ 2007-05-31 8am - 9am (ogsa-wg@ogf.org)
by Hiro Kishimoto 30 May '07

30 May '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: Express Authentication Profile (Andrew Grimshaw?, Alan Sill and Frank Siebenlist) Time: 2007-05-31 8am - 9am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) usecase and profiles review Minutes approval - Apr. 23: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14410 - OGF20: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14473 - F2F AuthZ: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 Action Item review * AI-0409b: Liberty spec statements on EPRs (compatibility or intent vs OGSA BSP) should be checked; are these true and is there some difference in interpretation that is unresolvable? - Duane will do an initial review to be discussed on the April 23 teleconference You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=aXFkMDJ1NHNhMnYzYWNsMj… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Call for papers -- GSEM2007
by Jinjun Chen 25 May '07

25 May '07

The 4th International Conference on Grid Services Engineering and Management - GSEM 2007 University of Leipzig, Germany, 24 - 26 September 2007 http://www.ict.swin.edu.au/conferences/gsem2007 The submission deadline is June 15, 2007. The Grid has emerged as a global platform to support on-demand virtual organizations for coordinated sharing of distributed data, applications and processes. Service-orientation of the Grid also makes it a promising platform for seamless and dynamic development, integration and deployment of service-oriented applications. The applica-tion components can be discovered, composed and delivered within a Grid of services, which are loosely coupled to create dynamic business processes and agile applications spanning organizations and computing platforms. The technologies contributing to such Grids of services include Service-Oriented Computing, Agent Technology, Semantic Web, Grid Computing, Software Engineering, and Business Process Technology. The GSEM 2007 conference aims at presenting and discussing the impact of the latest theoretical and practical results from the above-mentioned technological and research areas on the engineering and management of Grid services and service-oriented applica-tions. The conference provides a platform for bringing together researchers and practitioners from diverse fields and interests, and those looking for new business and research coop-eration opportunities in the above areas. Building on the three successful predecessors in 2004, 2005, and 2006, GSEM 2007 takes place from September 24 to 26, 2007 in Leipzig in the context of SABRE 2007. The topics of the conference include all areas related to grid service engineering and management, including but not limited to: * Modelling, description and discovery of services on the Grid * Deployment, packaging, and distribution of Grid services * Grid service architectures, infrastructures and deployment environments * Software engineering for Grid service creation, development, and generation * Service provisioning and Quality of Service for Grid services * Workflow planning and composition for Grid services * Service level agreement negotiation and contracting * Adaptive management, coordination, monitoring and control of Grid services and applications * Formation and management of virtual organizations * Intelligent services and Grid service agents * Security, performance and reliability engineering in service Grids * Testing and benchmarking of grid services * Grid service business models and applications * Standardization aspects We invite original research papers, work-in-progress reports, and industrial experiences describing advances in the above areas that have not been published previously, nor already submitted to other conferences in parallel with this conference. Full papers must not exceed 15 pages and follow the author instructions of Springer-Verlag. All papers should be in PDF or PostScript format. The paper should have a cover page, which in-cludes a 200-word abstract, a list of keywords, and author's e-mail address. Authors should submit a full paper via electronic submission available on the conference Web site. All papers submitted for GSEM'07 will be peer-reviewed and similarly to the previous years, accepted papers are planned to be published in a special proceedings by Springer Verlag. A selection of high quality papers will be invited to submit extended and en-hanced versions of their papers to the upcoming special issue of a major international journal. Important Dates Submission of Papers: June 15, 2007 Notification: July 15, 2007 Final Version Due: July 31, 2007

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Proposed agenda for May 24 call
by Hiro Kishimoto 24 May '07

24 May '07

Hi all, The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on May 24th Thursday from 8am - 10am (CDT). We subdivide the call into two 1 hour slots and the 2nd slot starts 9am. 9-11am EDT, 8-10am CDT, 6-8am PDT, 10pm-midnight JST, 2-4pm UK FIRST SLOT: 8-9am CDT - Information/data modeling SECOND SLOT: 9-10am CDT - Workflow Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0524 Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php <===== SLOT 1: STARTS 8am; ENDS 9am CDT =====> 1) Early discussion (10 min) Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Minutes approval (5 min) - Apr. 26: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14415 - OGF20 additional: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14505 - OGF20 info model: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14504 - OGF20 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 3) Information/data modeling discussion (45 min) Update on discussions with DMTF for container/service model doc Next steps for container/service mode doc (we need to discuss and reach concurrence on the options given discussions with the DMTF CIM core workgroup) <===== SLOT 2: STARTS 9am; ENDS 10am CDT =====> 4) Minutes approval (5 min) - Apr. 26: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14416 - OGF20 workflow: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc1445 - OGF20 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 5) workflow discussion (45 min, Steve McGough) Minutes from F2F meeting: > - More important, composing BES instances and DMI instances > together in order to meet the full JSL requirements (stage > in, execute, stage out) > - Executing an application can actually be observed as a > workflow all by itself (provision, deploy, configure, > instantiate, execute, etc.) > - The group would like to collect a list of scenarios that > describe workflows in greater detail > - The group reached consensus to create a Community Practice > track document summarizing the experiences taken so far > with workflows. 6) Wrap up (10 min) AOB -- Hiro Kishimoto

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OGSA-WG Summer interim F2F survey
by Hiro Kishimoto 21 May '07

21 May '07

Hi all, OGSA-WG are going to have an interim F2F meeting from August 13 to 15. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1776 Please let us know your availability by answering the following SurveyMonkey page sooner than later. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=88233875297 Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Request for Comments: InterGrid - Peering Architecture for Internetworking Disparate Grids
by Rajkumar Buyya 21 May '07

21 May '07

Dear OGSA Colleagues: (A couple of months ago) We have initiated a new project, called "InterGrid", which aims at developing "Peering Architecture and Policies for Internetworking Disparate Grids". A high level summary of the project is given below: -------------- Summary: Grid computing enables the creation of Cyberinfrastructure for e-Science and e-Business applications. Several nations around the world including Australia have developed their own national Grids based on the notion of virtual organisations. These dispersed Grid initiatives have resulted in islands of Grids without any support for peering arrangements between them. This limitation will impede realisation of full potential of the Grid computing paradigm. This InterGrid project aims to revolutionise Grid computing by investigating and developing (a) architectural principles for interlinking Grids, (b) mechanisms for resource provisioning and allocation within and across Grids and (c) peering policies and algorithms for inter-Grid resource management. --------- As you can see this InterGrid project is highly ambitious, a single research group like ours cannot solve all research challenges. Therefore, we put together a detailed research agenda with the aim of sharing it with international community of researchers interested in pursing this new research area within Grid computing. An article describing InterGrid research agenda can be downloaded from: http://www.gridbus.org/papers/InterGrid.pdf It will be great to hear your comments on the proposed InterGrid research agenda. I would also love to hear from those who are interested in pursuing this line of research with focus on a specific issue/area of your interest. Best regards Raj ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Rajkumar Buyya Associate Professor and Reader Grid Computing and Distributed Systems (GRIDS) Lab Dept. of Computer Science and Software Engineering The University of Melbourne ICT Building, 111, Barry Street, Carlton Melbourne, VIC 3053, Australia Phone: +61-3-8344 1344 (office); +61-0431385688 (home) Fax: +61-3-9348 1184; Email: raj(a)csse.unimelb.edu.au URL: http://www.buyya.com | http://www.gridbus.org/~raj ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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