August 2008 - ogsa-wg - lists.ogf.org

[Fwd: IETF O&M Area MIB2RMDL proposal]
by Hiro Kishimoto 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

FYI Very interesting work on standardizing a methodology to convert SNMP MIBs to SOA/WS resource model artifacts (tagged as "MIB to Resource Model Description Language" (MIB2RMDL), using "Language" very loosely in this context). -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Invitation to OGSA Info Services session
by Donal K. Fellows 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

The OGSA working group would like to invite all members of the OGSA Resource Selection Services and GLUE working groups to attend the session at OGF24 on Information Services. Right now, it is scheduled for the first session on Monday morning, but that might change (there's a clash with the RSS session, which we're going to try to get Joel to sort out) so check for yourselves when things are closer to the time. Donal.

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Public Comments Sought: ISV Remote Computing Usage Primer
by Steven Newhouse 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

All, The Independent Software Vendor Remote Computing Usage Primer (http://www.ogf.org/Public_Comment_Docs/Documents/2008-07/ISV-V93.pdf) is currently in public comment. Abstract below: This document provides information to the Independent Software Vendor (ISV) community as to how specifications from the Open Grid Forum and other standard setting organizations (SSO) can be used to support Remote Computing scenarios. It does not define any standards or technical recommendations. Please read and make public comments by the 1st September 2008 through http://www.ogf.org/gf/docs/comment.php?id=271 Many thanks, Steven & Andrew

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Minutes August 28, 2008
by David Snelling 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

Folks, Here they are, sorry about the abnormal format. Roll call : Andrew, Sergio, Michel, Donnal, Hiro, Steven, Dave Agenda Bashing: OK Singapore: - Sergio, Michel, Steven, Hiro, Donnal. - OGSA Sessions: Mon 09:00, Wed 9:15. - Andrew will join by phone. New Action: Hiro: Talk to Joel about fixing clash with RSS, Check for clashes with GLUE-WG. Minutes for Aug 7: Approved. Action Review: - Sergio: Action is done, see below. - Dave: Overview of CMDBf activity, done see below. - Andrew: Simple port type addition of push with slides, pending. Sergio: CEMon From his mail: 1. CEMon website: http://grid.pd.infn.it/cemon/ 2. the WSDL documentation is here: http://grid.pd.infn.it/cemon/wsdl/ 3. the service is mainly targeted at push/pull mode delivery of events; 4. the GetTopicEvent includes options such as "dialect", which enables to specify which format you want the info 5. there is a visibility concept, to define who can access what (user, group, other like in linux: group can be a VO) 6. the service interface can be easily extended to include the query expression and the query format Andrew asked about access to multiple sources of information. The default is only one resource per CEMon. Publication is through LDAP, via BDII using Open LDAP, as a registry. At the moment there is no security framework, so only public information is available. The web site has a good set of slides. CMDBf Discussion: Dave presented the draft spec of CMDBf to the OGSA group o The presented draft is available from the website www.cmdbf.org o Eclipse project “Cosmos” implements variety of management functions (http://www.eclipse.org/cosmos/) § Aim to provide a client compliant to the CMDBf and MDR port types o CMDBf do not provide an Information Model, OGSA needs one Hiro: This is a kind of directory or information source. What is the difference in target of OGSA-IS and CMDBf? Dave: Most differences are about the use cases. CMDBf mainly discusses non-volatile or dynamic information as OGSA-IS does, although the CMDBf specs do not preclude this. OGSA IS talks more about jobs submitted, jobs status and resource availability. Andrew: The IS discussion is around for a while. CMDBf looks very powerful but also intimidating. Are we over-engineering this problem? Maybe we adopt the WS-DAI family of specs (because they are fairly simple)? Would we then profile on the available information models available? Dave: Almost the same question arose at the starting of the CMDBf Working Group. The group resolved that WS-DAI would be too much to swallow for the group to handle (Dave did not agree with that). The management scope dramatically narrows down the focus of IM/IS applicability General thought: The port type for an IS is not the problem – it is the information model that typically is the problem AOB: Invitations to Info session: BES/HPCBP implementers, GLUE developers, Info Service developers, RSS people, and possibly JSDL people. New Action: Donnal: Send invitations to GLUE-WG, RSS-WG after the scheduling problems have been fixed. New Action: Steven: Provide slides for the ISV Primer session. Next Call: No call for Info before OGF24. Take care: Dr. David Snelling < David . Snelling . UK . Fujitsu . com > Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe Limited Hayes Park Central Hayes End Road Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE Reg. No. 4153469 +44-208-606-4649 (Office) +44-7768-807526 (Mobile)

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[Invitation] Information Services @ Thu Aug 28 9am – 10am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Information Services Time: Thu Aug 28 9am – 10am (Timezone: Central Time) Calendar: Description: When:10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers: US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Germany: +49 (0)69 50070802 (Frankfurt) Switzerland: +41 (0)1 8009574 (Zurich) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Minutes approval and AI review Minutes approval: Aug. 7 call: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc15314 Action Item review https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/tracker/do/listArtifacts/projects.ogsa-wg/tr… 3) Simple strawman portType Andrew provides a strawman port type definition https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc15316 4) Generic query interface Sergio provides a reference to a work performed by colleagues in Padova about generic query interface 5) AoB You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=OTB2YnJ2cDZyNDFidmFnYm… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Minutes 7 August 2008
by Michel Drescher 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

Folks, please find on Gridforge (http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc15314?nav=1 ) and attached the minutes for yesterday's teleconference. Cheers, Michel -- Michel Drescher Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe, Ltd. Hayes Park Central Hayes End Road Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE Reg. No. 4153469 +44 20 8606 4834 Michel.Drescher(a)uk.fujitsu.com

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Info Service design team - reference about CEMon
by Sergio Andreozzi 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

Hi Hiro, I'm sending you the info about the following action: > Sergio: Could you provide a reference to a work performed by > colleagues in Padova about generic query interface? The service I refer to is CEMon (Luigi Zangrando in copy is the designer). Here is a summary of the info: 1. CEMon website: http://grid.pd.infn.it/cemon/ 2. the WSDL documentation is here: http://grid.pd.infn.it/cemon/wsdl/ 3. the service is mainly targeted at push/pull mode delivery of events; 4. the GetTopicEvent includes options such as "dialect", which enables to specify which format you want the info 5. there is a visibility concept, to define who can access what (user, group, other like in linux: group can be a VO) 6. the service interface can be easily extended to include the query expression and the query format Cheers, Sergio -- Sergio Andreozzi INFN-CNAF, Tel: +39 051 609 2860 Viale Berti Pichat, 6/2 Fax: +39 051 609 2746 40127 Bologna (Italy) Web: http://www.cnaf.infn.it/~andreozzi

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[Invitation] Information Services @ Thu Aug 7 9am – 10am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Information Services Time: Thu Aug 7 9am – 10am (Timezone: Central Time) Calendar: Description: When:10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers: US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Germany: +49 (0)69 50070802 (Frankfurt) Switzerland: +41 (0)1 8009574 (Zurich) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Minutes approval and AI review Minutes approval: July 17 call: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc15299 Action Item review https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/tracker/do/listArtifacts/projects.ogsa-wg/tr… 3) Simple strawman portType Andrew provides a strawman port type definition 4) Generic query interface Sergio provides a reference to a work performed by colleagues in Padova about generic query interface 5) AoB You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=aW1sZmJyNm1hb2NsNzVocD… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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