July 2007 - ogsa-wg - lists.ogf.org

[Fwd: IETF O&M Area MIB2RMDL proposal]
by Hiro Kishimoto 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

FYI Very interesting work on standardizing a methodology to convert SNMP MIBs to SOA/WS resource model artifacts (tagged as "MIB to Resource Model Description Language" (MIB2RMDL), using "Language" very loosely in this context). -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Re: [ogsa-wg] OGSA Information Services
by Hiro Kishimoto 24 Sep '07

24 Sep '07

Hi all, Discussion material for Information Services by Laurence Field and Felix Ehm is now on the GridForge. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14692 > This document covers the problem description, experience in GIN, > overview of existing systems, generalized system and suggested > areas for standardization. Please have a look before the call today. Felix Ehm will lead the discussion. Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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Bugfix for containers doc
by Donal K. Fellows 17 Sep '07

17 Sep '07

Title should end "OGSA Grids", not "OGSA Grid". Reads better that way. Donal.

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Re: [ogsa-wg] [OGSA-D-WG] Definition of "data service"
by Subramaniam, Ravi 02 Aug '07

02 Aug '07

Hi, I would think that data is neither a resource, capability nor service. It is a unique entity/concept/essence. Thinking of data as a capability, resource or service can be problematic. Data is 'manipulated' by resources (could not think of a more appropriate word to represent the concept that I am thinking so I put it in quotes). To clarify data can be stored on a resource (storage), distributed by a resource (network), organised by or as a resource (file), operated on by a resource (CPU). Note: the items in parenthesis in the earlier sentence are resources (or more precisely resource types). A service provides access to or a view of a resource (i.e. a *portal* into one or a set of resources) - this latter part is congruent with the WSRF approach. By this thought process, a 'data service' or 'data resource' is a misnomer. A service is a portal into or the external manifestation of a resource which in turn 'operates' (in a wide sense) on data. Part of the confusion appears on where in this 'concept chain' we are. So if we are at the resource level we introduce terms like 'data resource' or at the service level 'data service'. In the example on files in the earlier part of the thread: The file is a resource used to organise data. The operations performed on a file is the service that is the external manifestations of the resource (i.e. the file) By this definition, we manage resources and not data. Actually data management is only achieved by managing the resources that 'operate' on data. Ravi Ravi Subramaniam -----Original Message----- From: guru prasad [mailto:guru_bn@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 07:55 AM Pacific Standard Time To: Donal K. Fellows Cc: ogsa-d-wg(a)ogf.org; ogsa-wg; Allen Luniewski Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] [OGSA-D-WG] Definition of "data service" > Thank you for your comments Allen. > > In that case I vote for Dave Berry's definition: > > "A service that provides interfaces to the capabilities and data of one > or more data resources within a service-oriented architecture." There is a separate question as to whether the data *is* a capability; I suspect it is, at least in some abstract sense. On the other hand, you might wish to distinguish the data as a special kind of capability that needs non-generic handling. So can you suggest the modification to the definition that will incorporate what you just above? "Donal K. Fellows" <donal.k.fellows(a)manchester.ac.uk> wrote: guru prasad wrote: > Thank you for your comments Allen. > > In that case I vote for Dave Berry's definition: > > "A service that provides interfaces to the capabilities and data of one > or more data resources within a service-oriented architecture." There is a separate question as to whether the data *is* a capability; I suspect it is, at least in some abstract sense. On the other hand, you might wish to distinguish the data as a special kind of capability that needs non-generic handling. > and the Data Resource is ..... A data resource is an abstraction of a file, so I'd imagine that you'd want to describe it as a resource that is an ordered collection of organized information. (The idea is that it doesn't have to be in a file, but it does have many file-like characteristics.) It's strongly beneficial to the overall OGSA if you can have data resources being a subclass of resources (by referencing the OGSA glossary). Donal. --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.

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No roadmap call today
by Hiro Kishimoto 30 Jul '07

30 Jul '07

Hi all, Sorry for the last minutes notice but since Chris Jordan cannot make today's call. We will postpone roadmap call to next Monday (August 6). Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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[Invitation] Express Authentication Profile (Duane Merrill) @ Mon Jul 30 17:00 - 18:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 28 Jul '07

28 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Express Authentication Profile (Duane Merrill) Time: Mon Jul 30 17:00 - 18:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA Express AuthN profiles (Duane) Duane has addressed the majority of the trackers regarding the three EAPdocuments and have uploaded a new version of each to GridForge (v004). - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spuc Duane would appreciate it if, before our Monday call, the authors/interested parties of these trackers could review the relevant updates as per my tracker comments and let me know if there are any deficiencies. 3) Tracker item review (Duane) The items that Duane would like to discuss on Monday (July 30) are: Any outstanding issues for the trackers that Duane has set as "resolved" or "pending" (Currently the pending ones have been assigned to Blair for review.) This includes Duane's update of the Secure SOAP doc to downgrade whole-sale integrity and confidentiality requirements from mandatory to recommended. Thoughts on the signing of secure EPRs Thoughts on Kerberos/SAML ancillary EAP profiles. (Duane will try and have a draft of a Kerberos doc by Monday morning.) Issue tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/isuc - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spsa - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spss - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spst Minutes approval July 2nd: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14654 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bmV0OHFhcDU1dDhqYWw3Nj… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Roadmap (Chris Jordan) @ Mon Jul 30 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 28 Jul '07

28 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Roadmap (Chris Jordan) Time: Mon Jul 30 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0730 Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document review (Chris) roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 Minutes approval July 9: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14660 Action Item review AI-0625a: Hiro will check number and status of the info model documents and send the information to Chris J (via tracker) You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bzNtdmNwajZ1NDFucmRyY2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Re: [ogsa-wg] OGSA-WG F2F session detail (OGSA Express Authentication Profiles)
by Duane Merrill 27 Jul '07

27 Jul '07

Everyone, I've addressed the majority of the trackers regarding the three EAP documents and have uploaded a new version of each to GridForge (v004). I would appreciate it if, before our Monday call, the authors/interested parties of these trackers could review the relevant updates as per my tracker comments and let me know if there are any deficiencies. The items that I would like to discuss on Monday (July 30) are: * Any outstanding issues for the trackers that I've set as "resolved" or "pending" (Currently the pending ones have been assigned to Blair for review.) This includes my update of the Secure SOAP doc to downgrade whole-sale integrity and confidentiality requirements from mandatory to recommended. * Thoughts on the signing of secure EPRs * Thoughts on Kerberos/SAML ancillary EAP profiles. (I'll try and have a draft of a Kerberos doc by Monday morning.) Cheers, Duane Hiro Kishimoto wrote: > Duane, > > > You have another EAP call on next Monday (Aug. 6) 6-7pm EDT. > > We need detailed agenda for the call as well. > > Actually, you have two calls on July 30 (Monday) and Aug. 6 (Monday). > > I need agenda for July 30 at this moment. > > Thanks, > ---- > Hiro Kishimoto

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Minutes for today's info model teleconf
by Michel Drescher 26 Jul '07

26 Jul '07

Folks, the minutes for today's info model session are up on Gridforge: http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc14693?nav=1 Cheers, Michel

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[Reminder] Workflow (Michel Drescher) @ 2007-07-26 08:00 - 09:00 ()
by Google Calendar 25 Jul '07

25 Jul '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Workflow (Michel Drescher) Time: 2007-07-26 08:00 - 09:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0726 Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing *** Detailed agenda TBD *** Minutes approval - June 14: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14616 Action Item review AI-0508a: Donal to get in contact with Taverna Drill use cases for cyclic dependancy declarations AI-0511b: Michel to pulla workflow strawman poposal together AI-0614a: Steven Newhouse will check whether Windows Workflow can also be used with CCS / BES style services AI-0614b: Andreas will put the initial presentation points on the wiki AI-0614c: Andreas will put the initial questionnaire points on the wiki AI-0614d: Steve McGough will compile the list and put it on the wiki AI-0614e: Steve McGough will look for the workflow material from the Berlin GGF You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NjBjb2dmcnAxcWk5dXByOG… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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