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URL for OGSA-WG charter
by Alan Sill 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

Comments: BOF at GGF 19 can be used to set deliverables and provide detailed milestones for this work group. Leadership and charter should be reviewed by new Security Area Directors. http://www.ggf.org/gf/group_info/charter.php?review&group=OGSA-AuthN-WG Alan Sill TIGRE Senior Scientist High Performance Computing Center TTU ==================================================================== : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: Alan.Sill(a)ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ====================================================================

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Regrets today
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26 Oct '06

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BES specs
by Hiro Kishimoto 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

Hi Paul and reference model design team members, > AI-1023e: Hiro will send out references to relevant OGF specs, > e.g., BES and CDDLM The following is BES related materials for reference model discussion. (1) OGSA-BES specification draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13793 (2) OGSA-HPC profile use case document - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13780 (3) OGSA-HPC profile specification draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13736 Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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of reference models, services and information models....
by Maguire_Tom＠emc.com 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

0 *H÷ 010 +0 *H÷ $-Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6F6C5.2E5ACA50" X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 105D69B5E6F6C601 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6F6C5.2E5ACA50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to broach the subject line on tonight's call. Preferably early in the agenda as Ellen Stokes will be able to join at that time. The subject is really about the linkage between the services we define in OGSA (of course as guided by the reference model) and the information model that is exposed through those services. In general this has been addressed in the way that SNIA and DMTF build Profiles. Terminology is a bit overloaded here... the way we (OGSA) use profiles is in the WS-I sense. Profiles in the SNIA and DMTF are about refining information models to instance based models (cardinality restrictions on relationships, required and optional properties, etc) and the tie of those instances to tasks (service interfaces). We should consider how we are going to accomplish the same thing in OGSA. Tom _______________________________________________ Tom Maguire Senior Technologist, Office of CTO EMC2 maguire_tom(a)emc.com +1(845) 729-4806 "The only difference between a rut and grave is the depth." - Ralph Waldo Emerson ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6F6C5.2E5ACA50 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat" eJ8+IiUVAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQOQBgD4GQAAHwAAAAsAHw4BABIAAgH4DwEAAAAQAAAAGTFs0enA QU+TG+xdGMv50gIB+g8BAAAAEAAAAEcAeBfHkKxKr+8LploFF7ADAP4PBQAAAAMADTT9PwUAAwAP NP0/BQACARQ0AQAAABAAAABUlKHAKX8QG6WHCAArKiUXHgD6PwEAAAANAAAATWFndWlyZSwgVG9t AAAAAAsABIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAaFAAAAAGkAAwARgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYA AAAAAYUAAAAAAABAABOACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAABghQAAAAjW6CkAAAALABCACCAGAAAA AADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAADhQAAAAB3AAsABoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAA6FAAAAAGwAAwAD 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Roadmap Editors call minutes, 10/25
by Christopher Jordan 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've uploaded the minutes from today's call to GridForge: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13973?nav=1 Chris Jordan Data Reliability Manager San Diego Supercomputer Center ctjordan(a)sdsc.edu 858.534.8347 "If we had a keen vision and feeling of all ordinary human life, it would be like hearing the grass grow and the squirrel's heart beat, and we should die of that roar which lies on the other side of silence." - George Eliot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFQCt3PCVtcXn6kg8RAmwxAJ90ryg6HC0wEpak9Nc2DNDJeWIyOQCg6uI8 DTYdXxegzQuo5HXN4FI55u4= =FeSR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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OGSA Roadmap Editors Call Today
by Christopher Jordan 25 Oct '06

25 Oct '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 There will be an OGSA Roadmap editors call today at 3PM PDT, 6PM EDT. Please join us if you have comments or other input for the OGSA Roadmap document, as we are fast approaching final draft status. To Join Audio Conference Primary Dial-In: 1 (877) 218-2986 Alternate Dial-In: 1 (847) 619-6049 Enter Passcode: 9435289# Thanks. Chris Jordan Data Reliability Manager San Diego Supercomputer Center ctjordan(a)sdsc.edu 858.534.8347 "If we had a keen vision and feeling of all ordinary human life, it would be like hearing the grass grow and the squirrel's heart beat, and we should die of that roar which lies on the other side of silence." - George Eliot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFP38CPCVtcXn6kg8RAr/NAKDEVFgHynP7xJkuLZNIAV2jLPuJWwCfQsrJ CRNFqQkBPYliliYVWDJiB5s= =ypCD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Updated: OGSA Teleconference
by Andreas Savva 25 Oct '06

25 Oct '06

BEGIN:VCALENDAR PRODID:-//Microsoft Corporation//Outlook 11.0 MIMEDIR//EN VERSION:2.0 METHOD:REQUEST BEGIN:VEVENT ATTENDEE;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;RSVP=TRUE:MAILTO:ogsa-wg@ogf.org ORGANIZER:MAILTO:andreas.savva@jp.fujitsu.com DTSTART:20061026T133000Z DTEND:20061026T153000Z TRANSP:OPAQUE SEQUENCE:2 UID:040000008200E00074C5B7101A82E0080000000090FC1D0965ECC6010000000000000000100 000002731B8671369CD478D172B3E1AC845AA DTSTAMP:20061025T103730Z DESCRIPTION:When: 2006年10月26日木曜日 22:30 to 2006年10月27日金曜日 0:30 (GMT+09:00) 大阪、札幌、東京.\n\n*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*\n\n<pre>\n\nDial-in numbers for Thursday:\n Free: +1-888-452-0308\n Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505\n PIN: 71815\n See more information:\n - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1\n\nScreen share service will be provided.\n URL: http://ogsa.glance.net\n Session key: 1026\n See more explanation:\n https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584?nav=1\n\n1) Early discussion (20 min)\n Note taker assignment\n Roll call\n Telecon minutes approval (Oct. 23)\n - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13966\n Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email)\n Agenda bashing\n\n2) Nov F2F update (Hiro)\n\n3) OGSA-AuthN-WG charter discussion (Alan Sill\, 60 min)\n\nMinutes from Oct. 5th call\n> * What is the best low hanging fruit to attack\n> - Authentication?\n> - Do we want to narrowly profile SAML for point \n > to point authorization?\n> -- Next step to be delegation\n> - What use cases should we consider?\n> - What other profiles for authentication should we look at?\n> -- SAML?\n> -- X509 Varient in which we conote identify \n > with regards to WS-Naming (EPI)\n> -- Federation of identity\n> --- There are people solving this problem \n > and we shouldn't re-invent\n> --- SAML\n> - What in the OGSA use case space. If you plan to federate \n > identity.\n> - If your site has user name password\, how do you federate that\n> - One of the nice things about SAML is that you can have \n > assertions that consolodate authentication domains.\n> -- You may not have to have an X509 for that \n > username/password\n> - Equally important is authenticating the service to the user.\n> - Need Auth Working group.\n> - Shibolith\n> -- You still need a source of identity (X509\, or something)\n> - Auth Schemes\n> -- X509\n> -- Kerberos\n> -- Member Integrated Credential Service\n> --- AD\, LDAP\, etc.\n> - WS-Trust falls short of the mark\n> - Seems optimistic to say that Shibolith does Auth\, but \n > it's being looked into seriously.\n> * BoF\n> - Need to start preparation for a BoF\n> - Alan Sill willing to take responsibility for pushing \n > the process for getting a charter ready\n> - AI-1005a: Alan Sill to have draft Charter ready before \n > next security telecon (Dave to help and only as stand\n > in for new area director).\n> - Do we need more covereage if we have an active authorization \n > and authentication working groups\n> -- No\, we need more covereage\n> -- AI-1005b: People to send Dave Snelling more \n > information\, ideas for more\n > security calls to complete coverage\n> - Two weeks from today is the next security call.\n\n Alan's charter draft:\nhttp://www.ggf.org/gf/group_info/charter.php?review&group=OGSA-Aut hN-WG\n\n People to send Dave Snelling more information\, ideas\n for more security calls to complete coverage\n\n4) Wrap up (10 min)\n AOB\n\n<*NEXT CALL*>\nhttps://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1\n\nOct. 30 (Mon): OGSA roadmap\, DMTF work register\,\n CIM profile introduction\nNov. 2 (Thu): Information/data modeling\,\n EMS Architecture scenarios\nNov. 6 (Mon): EGA reference model\, OGSA roadmap\n\nNov. 9 & 10: F2F meeting in Tampa\n\n<*ACTION ITEMS*>\nhttps://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569\n\n > From Oct. 23 call\n AI-1023a: Tom and Ellen will do a CIM Profile Introduction for\n Oct.30 (45-60 minutes session)\n AI-1023b: Tom and Ellen will start working on an introductory\n example for the F2F.\n - The exact topic is not decided. It may be good to make\n sure that it aligns with the XQuery examples that Michel\n is using. (Tom will contact Michel.)\n - Michel and Fred should be involved in this work.\n AI-1023c: Tom volunteered to review Hiro's HPC Cluster use case\n slides and make appropriate changes to indicate where the\n CIM Profile would fit in and how it would link into the\n Reference Model.\n AI-1023d: Paul will add more items to list on slide 6 of the HPC\n Cluster use case\n AI-1023e: Hiro will send out references to relevant OGF specs\,\n e.g.\, BES and CDDLM\n AI-1023f: Paul will review relevant OGF specs and give feedback to\n Hiro for the next version of the use case slide deck.\n AI-1023g: Hiro will look at other parts of slide 5 and identify\n further possible refinements of this use case.\n\n > From Oct. 5 call.\n AI-1005b: People to send Dave Snelling more information\, ideas\n for more security calls to complete coverage\n (Since this does not have any specific owners\, it will\n be closed Oct. 26)\n\n > From Sept. 28 call.\n AI-0928a: Takuya will issue a final call on BSP-Core on the list.\n\n > From Sept. 21 call.\n AI-0921c: Dave S (as Standards VP) to talk to the next\n Security ADs (Blair Dillaway and David Groep) about the\n Security Area task list.\n\n > From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F\n AI-0915a: (A Savva\, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to\n collect workflow (BPEL) experience\n AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker\n AI-0915e: Hiro to talk with OGF Editor to start an errata process\n\n > From Aug. 17 call\n AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN\,\n Globus\, etc) that have implemented practical grids and\n start a discussion on how they handle data:\n - how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled\n - how transfers are modeled\n - how files are advertised\n - how applications find files (query\, by knowledge\,?)\n (Due Oct. 9)\n\n > From Aug. 3 call\n AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why\n using ID/IDREF is not a good idea.\n AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment\n variables\n\n > From July 20 F2F\n- EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to\n contribute use cases.\n- Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to\n Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes.\n\nPostponed:\nUntil next EMS call (Nov. 2):\n AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just\n presented into the scenarios document\n AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES.\n AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities\n (short paragraph for each\, e.g. time constraint as JSDL\n extension.)\n AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this “terminate”\n method of activity interface.\n AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario.\n AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM.\n AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal on\n "ActivityExecutionCandidate."\n AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this\n scenario.\n AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch\n Scenarios document\n\n</pre>\n\n\n SUMMARY:Updated: OGSA Teleconference PRIORITY:5 X-MICROSOFT-CDO-IMPORTANCE:1 CLASS:PUBLIC BEGIN:VALARM TRIGGER:-PT15M ACTION:DISPLAY DESCRIPTION:Reminder END:VALARM END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR

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Proposed agenda for Oct. 26th call
by Hiro Kishimoto 25 Oct '06

25 Oct '06

Hi all, The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Oct. 26th Thursday from 8:30am - 10:30am (CDT). Attention: Summer time ends Oct. 29. New time slot in next week and after. Mon: 5-7pm ET, 4-6pm CT, 2-4pm PT, 7-9am JST, 10pm-midnight UK Thu: 8-10am ET, 7-9am CT, 5-7am PT, 10pm-midnight JST, 1-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 1026 See more explanation: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584?nav=1 1) Early discussion (20 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (Oct. 23) - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13966 Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email) Agenda bashing 2) Nov F2F update (Hiro) 3) OGSA-AuthN-WG charter discussion (Alan Sill, 60 min) Minutes from Oct. 5th call > * What is the best low hanging fruit to attack > - Authentication? > - Do we want to narrowly profile SAML for point > to point authorization? > -- Next step to be delegation > - What use cases should we consider? > - What other profiles for authentication should we look at? > -- SAML? > -- X509 Varient in which we conote identify > with regards to WS-Naming (EPI) > -- Federation of identity > --- There are people solving this problem > and we shouldn't re-invent > --- SAML > - What in the OGSA use case space. If you plan to federate > identity. > - If your site has user name password, how do you federate that > - One of the nice things about SAML is that you can have > assertions that consolodate authentication domains. > -- You may not have to have an X509 for that > username/password > - Equally important is authenticating the service to the user. > - Need Auth Working group. > - Shibolith > -- You still need a source of identity (X509, or something) > - Auth Schemes > -- X509 > -- Kerberos > -- Member Integrated Credential Service > --- AD, LDAP, etc. > - WS-Trust falls short of the mark > - Seems optimistic to say that Shibolith does Auth, but > it's being looked into seriously. > * BoF > - Need to start preparation for a BoF > - Alan Sill willing to take responsibility for pushing > the process for getting a charter ready > - AI-1005a: Alan Sill to have draft Charter ready before > next security telecon (Dave to help and only as stand > in for new area director). > - Do we need more covereage if we have an active authorization > and authentication working groups > -- No, we need more covereage > -- AI-1005b: People to send Dave Snelling more > information, ideas for more > security calls to complete coverage > - Two weeks from today is the next security call. Alan's charter draft: http://www.ggf.org/gf/group_info/charter.php?review&group=OGSA-AuthN-WG People to send Dave Snelling more information, ideas for more security calls to complete coverage 4) Wrap up (10 min) AOB <*NEXT CALL*> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1 Oct. 30 (Mon): OGSA roadmap, DMTF work register, CIM profile introduction Nov. 2 (Thu): Information/data modeling, EMS Architecture scenarios Nov. 6 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap Nov. 9 & 10: F2F meeting in Tampa <*ACTION ITEMS*> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569 > From Oct. 23 call AI-1023a: Tom and Ellen will do a CIM Profile Introduction for Oct.30 (45-60 minutes session) AI-1023b: Tom and Ellen will start working on an introductory example for the F2F. - The exact topic is not decided. It may be good to make sure that it aligns with the XQuery examples that Michel is using. (Tom will contact Michel.) - Michel and Fred should be involved in this work. AI-1023c: Tom volunteered to review Hiro's HPC Cluster use case slides and make appropriate changes to indicate where the CIM Profile would fit in and how it would link into the Reference Model. AI-1023d: Paul will add more items to list on slide 6 of the HPC Cluster use case AI-1023e: Hiro will send out references to relevant OGF specs, e.g., BES and CDDLM AI-1023f: Paul will review relevant OGF specs and give feedback to Hiro for the next version of the use case slide deck. AI-1023g: Hiro will look at other parts of slide 5 and identify further possible refinements of this use case. > From Oct. 5 call. AI-1005b: People to send Dave Snelling more information, ideas for more security calls to complete coverage (Since this does not have any specific owners, it will be closed Oct. 26) > From Sept. 28 call. AI-0928a: Takuya will issue a final call on BSP-Core on the list. > From Sept. 21 call. AI-0921c: Dave S (as Standards VP) to talk to the next Security ADs (Blair Dillaway and David Groep) about the Security Area task list. > From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F AI-0915a: (A Savva, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to collect workflow (BPEL) experience AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker AI-0915e: Hiro to talk with OGF Editor to start an errata process > From Aug. 17 call AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN, Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and start a discussion on how they handle data: - how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled - how transfers are modeled - how files are advertised - how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?) (Due Oct. 9) > From Aug. 3 call AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why using ID/IDREF is not a good idea. AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment variables > From July 20 F2F - EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to contribute use cases. - Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes. Postponed: Until next EMS call (Nov. 2): AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just presented into the scenarios document AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES. AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities (short paragraph for each, e.g. time constraint as JSDL extension.) AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this “terminate” method of activity interface. AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario. AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM. AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal on "ActivityExecutionCandidate." AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this scenario. AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch Scenarios document ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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Teleconference minutes - 23 October 2006
by Andreas Savva 24 Oct '06

24 Oct '06

https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13966?nav=1 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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CDDLM intro
by Hiro Kishimoto 24 Oct '06

24 Oct '06

Hi Paul and reference model design team members, The following is CDDLM related materials for reference model discussion. (1) OGSA EMS architecture scenarios document draft See "deploying an application scenario (section 4.1)" - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc12749 (2) CDDLM specs presentation by Dejan CDDLM overview slides presentation - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc12763 (3) CDDLM specifications CDDLM Foundation Document (GFD.50) - http://www.ggf.org/documents/GFD.50.pdf CDDLM Component Model v 1.0 (GFD.65) - http://www.ggf.org/documents/GFD.65.pdf CDDLM Deployment API (GFD.69) - http://www.ggf.org/documents/GFD.69.pdf CDDLM XML-CDL spec draft - http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/cddlm-wg/2006-August/000656.html Hope it helps, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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