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GGF14 session plan
by Hiro Kishimoto 15 May '05

15 May '05

Hi all, We has discussed GGF14 session plan at today's call. The attached is the agreed draft plan revised by Fred. Many thanks Fred. It is also uploaded to the GridForge. https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/GGF14_session_plan/en… Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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RM teleconference minutes - May 9, 2005
by Fred Maciel 14 May '05

14 May '05

Hi, Here are the minutes of the teleconference (attached file). Regards, Fred Maciel.

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ByteIO WG Status
by Hiro Kishimoto 14 May '05

14 May '05

Mark's email bounced. ---- Hiro Kishimoto From: "Mark Morgan" <mmm2a(a)virginia.edu> Subject: ByteIO WG Status Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:45:50 -0400 All, Hiro requested that I send a brief paragraph out to the ogsa mailing list to give status for the byteio-wg. The ByteIO WG is now an official OGSA WG. We have a mailing list that you can subscribe to if you like (byteio-wg(a)ggf.org) Our telecons are every other Tuesday (the next one being on 17 May 2005) at 10am Eastern. So far we have discussed the following topics: * Telecon Schedules * Use Case Template Document * Technological Issues with bulk data transfer The bulk data transfer issues revolve around trying to come up with a bulk data transfer solution that is well supported and adopted without sacrificing flexibility and interoperability with other WS specifications. We want to make sure that solutions which work for firewalls, NATs, security, etc. are viable for whatever bulk data transfer mechanisms we come up with. We have looked at a number of different options including PBIO, DIME Attachments, MTOM, etc. Initial reactions seem to be to support to some degree user-specifiable transfer options. The main problem with picking eitehr DIME or MTOM is availability and stability of the spec. We have also sent out to the mailing lists (both byteio, and ogsa) the use case template document that we want comments on. We will use this to write up the use case document and discussions on both feedback from the template and initial use cases to start on next week's telecon. -Mark -- Mark Morgan Research Scientist Department of Computer Science University of Virginia http://www.cs.virginia.edu mmm2a(a)virginia.edu (434) 982-2790

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RM - host model comparison
by Fred Maciel 14 May '05

14 May '05

Hi, Here is the start of the host part of the CIM-GLUE comparison. It only includes the GLUE 1.2 classes for matchmaking CIM processor and memory-related classes for now. Regards, Fred Maciel.

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Draft agenda for 2005 May F2F meeting
by Hiro Kishimoto 13 May '05

13 May '05

Hi all, I've upload an early draft for upcoming London F2F meeting agenda to the gridForge. https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/OGSA_2005_May_F2F_Age… n/1 or http://tinyurl.com/cppse Please have a look and please let me know if you want to add some additional topic to discuss or find any mistakes. We will discuss it at upcoming Monday call. Andrew, Steve, Darren: Please provide OGSA-BES meeting agenda Dave, Allen, Mark, Neil: Please provide data & byteIO meeting agenda Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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Proposed agenda for May 11th call
by Hiro Kishimoto 11 May '05

11 May '05

Hi all, The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on May 11th Wednesday from 5pm to 7pm (CDT). Dial-in numbers for Wednesday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 PIN: 71815 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 0511 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (May 9th) - Andreas will send out May F2F meeting update (if any) Agenda bashing 2) GGF14 session plan (20 min) Fred has revised and sent out updated session plan. Thanks Fred, https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/GGF14_session_plan Joel Replogle, new GGF Standards Facilitator, asked us to let him know our session plan at GGF14. In order to avoid conflict with related WG's session, OGSA-WG should schedule proactively. The deadlines are: Documents - Deadline for submitting working drafts is May 27, 2005. Session - Deadline for session requests for a WG or RG is Jun 3, 2005. 3) OGSA fellow WG monthly reporting session (40 min) - OGSA-ByteIO WG - OGSA-Data WG - OGSA-BES WG - OGSA-naming WG 4) OGSA roadmap discussion (40 min) >From Jem's email. > Hi, I just uploaded version 7 of the Roadmap document - you can find it > at http://tinyurl.com/8p6mj. In this version I created the major > sections we'll need to complete, including the data I received from Dave > B and Andrew, and accepted all changes so that we have a clean starting > point (there were no significant changes other than insertion of these > sections). > > If you're providing roadmap data, please use the latest version of the > document as your base - you can cut/paste your section or send the whole > document for merging. Thanks Jem, 5) Wrap up (10 min) AOB May 16 (5-7pm CDT) TBD May 19 (5-7pm CDT) F2F preparation See telecon schedule until May F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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EGA Reference Model released
by Fred Maciel 11 May '05

11 May '05

Hi, The EGA Reference Model has just been released today. It can be downloaded from the EGA site: http://www.gridalliance.org/ I'm reading it now, and the contents are really good. I'm looking forward to the joint session in GGF14. Regards, Fred Maciel.

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Proposed agenda for May 9th call
by Hiro Kishimoto 10 May '05

10 May '05

Hi all, The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on May 9th Monday from 5pm to 7pm (CDT). The dial-in number for Monday; Free: +1-866-639-4741 Toll: +1-574-935-6703 PIN: 8980700 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 0509 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (April 27th) https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20050427/en/1 May F2F meeting update (if any) Agenda bashing 2) GGF14 session plan (20 min) Joel Replogle, new GGF Standards Facilitator, asked us to let him know our session plan at GGF14. In order to avoid conflict with related WG's session, OGSA-WG should schedule proactively. The deadlines are: Documents - Deadline for submitting working drafts is May 27, 2005. Session - Deadline for session requests for a WG or RG is Jun 3, 2005. 3) OGSA basic profile review (40 min) The latest draft (v012) https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa-basic-… le/en/7 4) OGSA profile definition review (40 min) The latest draft (v1.5) https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa-profil… plate/en/4 5) Wrap up (10 min) AOB May 11 (5-7pm CDT) Roadmap discussion, fellow WGs status reporting May 16 (5-7pm CDT) TBD May 19 (5-7pm CDT) F2F preparation See telecon schedule until May F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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Agenda for May 12 call
by Andrew Grimshaw 09 May '05

09 May '05

All, Attached are the (short) minutes from the last call. Note: The call-in information has changed!!! Toll-free dial-in: 1-877-422-0036 Toll/International dial-in: 1-314-655-1412 Tie-line dial-in: 422-0036 Participant passcode: 496684 Proposed Agenda: Agenda bashing Continue agreement discussion 20 - minutes Discussion of the question of "how basic is basic?" Steven asked a good question on the call two weeks ago. To paraphrase, is for example, file staging out of scope - because file staging is itself a service that would be invoked and managed by a "job manager". I'll give a more precise definition on the call. Note this is the last call before the F2F on Sunday in London. Steven, do we have a local yet? Andrew

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WS-Naming
by Andrew Grimshaw 09 May '05

09 May '05

All, After a bit of a delay we are ready to start discussions on naming. A few things. First, finding a time that does not collide with other OGSA/GGF calls was a challenge. We decided on Mondays at 11 AM eastern. Dial in information: Toll-free dial-in: 1-877-422-0036 Toll/International dial-in: 1-314-655-1412 Tie-line dial-in: 422-0036 Participant passcode: 496684 The first call will be on Monday, May 16. The proposed agenda is: Charter - specifically scope and timing of documents. Suitability of existing standards and systems to fill the requirements. Specifically, WS-Addressing by itself, WS-Discovery, and Handle. Note to supporters of Handle. The license on the web site is very restrictive. I personally feel it is unacceptable as it stands. Evidence that a different license model is now in use is needed to continue examining Handle in my view. The May 23 call will not take place. Instead interested parties will caucus at the OGSA F2F meeting in London. Second, I am attaching three documents. The strawman draft WS-Name document that we presented in Korea, the naming requirements document draft that the naming design team in OGSA developed, and a revised charter. Andrew Grimshaw

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