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RE: [ogsa-wg] Data: correction for EU daylight saving time
by Dave Berry 28 Mar '05

28 Mar '05

A final(?) correction: I should also have changed the names of the time zones affected by DST. Some readers weren't sure which time I meant. 7.30am PST / 10.30am EST / 4.30pm BST / 5.30 pm CEST Dave. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On > Behalf Of Dave Berry > Sent: 27 March 2005 15:50 > To: ogsa-wg > Cc: Dave Pearson; Mario Antonioletti; Martin Westhead; > gtr(a)ast.cam.ac.uk; chappella(a)battelle.org; arun(a)sdsc.edu; > jxu(a)us.ibm.com; o.tatebe(a)aist.go.jp; Yves.Denneulin(a)imag.fr; > ppadala(a)cise.ufl.edu; ivm(a)fnal.gov; jalameda(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu; > annc(a)isi.edu; madsen(a)us.ibm.com; allcock(a)mcs.anl.gov; Allen > Luniewski; Malcolm Atkinson; Susan Malaika; Peter Clarke > (UCL); David E Martin; Peter Kunszt; Ian.Bird(a)cern.ch; > Erwin.Laure(a)cern.ch; Gavin.Mccance(a)cern.ch; Scott Oster; > Stephen Langella; Shannon Hastings; Manuel Pereira; Ted > Anderson; Leo Luan; Mark M. Morgan > Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] Data: correction for EU daylight saving time > > Of course, it would help if I got the correction right. As Susan > pointed out in e-mail, the times should actually be: > > 7.30am PST / 10.30amm EST / 4.30pGMT / 5.30 pm CET. > > I assume that everyone is now thoroughly confused ;-). > > Dave. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On > Behalf Of > Dave Berry > Sent: 26 March 2005 17:36 > To: ogsa-wg > Cc: Dave Pearson; Mario Antonioletti; Martin Westhead; > gtr(a)ast.cam.ac.uk; chappella(a)battelle.org; arun(a)sdsc.edu; > jxu(a)us.ibm.com; o.tatebe(a)aist.go.jp; Yves.Denneulin(a)imag.fr; > ppadala(a)cise.ufl.edu; ivm(a)fnal.gov; jalameda(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu; > annc(a)isi.edu; madsen(a)us.ibm.com; allcock(a)mcs.anl.gov; Allen Luniewski; > Malcolm Atkinson; Susan Malaika; Peter Clarke (UCL); David E Martin; > Peter Kunszt; Ian.Bird(a)cern.ch; Erwin.Laure(a)cern.ch; > Gavin.Mccance(a)cern.ch; Scott Oster; Stephen Langella; Shannon > Hastings; > Manuel Pereira; Ted Anderson; Leo Luan; Mark M. Morgan > Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] Data: correction for EU daylight saving time > > > Correction: the time of this meeting will be: > > 7.30am PST / 10.30am EST / 2.30pm GMT / 3.30 pm CET > > Dave. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On > Behalf Of > Dave Berry > Sent: 24 March 2005 12:58 > To: ogsa-wg > Cc: Dave Pearson; Mario Antonioletti; Martin Westhead; > gtr(a)ast.cam.ac.uk; chappella(a)battelle.org; arun(a)sdsc.edu; > jxu(a)us.ibm.com; o.tatebe(a)aist.go.jp; Yves.Denneulin(a)imag.fr; > ppadala(a)cise.ufl.edu; ivm(a)fnal.gov; jalameda(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu; > annc(a)isi.edu; madsen(a)us.ibm.com; allcock(a)mcs.anl.gov; Allen Luniewski; > Malcolm Atkinson; Susan Malaika; Peter Clarke (UCL); David E Martin; > Peter Kunszt; Ian.Bird(a)cern.ch; Erwin.Laure(a)cern.ch; > Gavin.Mccance(a)cern.ch; Scott Oster; Stephen Langella; Shannon > Hastings; > Manuel Pereira; Ted Anderson; Leo Luan; Mark M. Morgan > Subject: [ogsa-wg] Data: proposed agenda for Wednesday March 30th > > > Dear all, > > I propose we have a telcon next Wednesday, March 30th, at our > new usual > time of 7.30am PST / 10.30am EST / 3.30pm GMT / 4.30 pm CET. > > UK Dial In: 0845 245 0224 > US Dial In: 1866 838 0046 > International Dial In: +44 1452 542309 > > PIN: 632 065 > > The two main topics I intend to cover are: > > - draft charter for becoming a working group > > - progress with the straw man document > > I will post a full agenda early next week. In the interim I intend to > circulate a draft of the WG charter and an update on the document. > > Best wishes, > > Dave Berry > Research Manager, National e-Science Centre > 15 South College St., Edinburgh > Tel: +44 131 6514039 > >

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Re: [ogsa-wg] RE: Update on OGSA Basic Profile Security work
by Hiro Kishimoto 28 Mar '05

28 Mar '05

Hi all, Takuya's email bounced. ---- Hiro Kishimoto Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:58:39 -0600 (CST) To: security-area(a)ggf.org Cc: ogsa-wg(a)gridforum.org Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] RE: Update on OGSA Basic Profile Security work From: Takuya Mori <mori(a)mcs.anl.gov> Dear All, There is an update on the telecon schedule. I applogize my duplicate, if you guys have already been noticed it. It is proposed to have the Basic Profile sessions 1-3pm ET on Wednesdays. The security related issues is also scheduled in the same time slot on Mar 30th now. If it does not work for you, please let me know it. Thank you, Takuya Mori From: "Hiro Kishimoto" <hiro.kishimoto(a)jp.fujitsu.com> Subject: [ogsa-wg] RE: Update on OGSA Basic Profile Security work Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:05:37 +0900 > Thanks Dane for your obliging email, > > Certainly OGSA-WG welcomes and requires security experts. Proposed > telecon date is March 30th. If it does not work for you, April 6th is > another option. Please let me know your preference. > > You can sub-scribe our mailing list; > https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/sourceforge/document/majordomo_he > lp/en/1/ma > jordomo_help.doc > http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/threads.html > > Our Wednesday call is 5-7pm CST. The dial in number is 1-888-452-0308 > or 1-484-644-0505 and the pass code is 71815. > > You can download the latest basic profile draft from; > https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa-b > asic-profi > le/en/3 > > Now we have four open security related issues on this profile; > #1320: Transport and/or Message Level security > MUST or SHOULD?? > #1321: Discovery of key-info for encryption in message level security > Service Group Profile/ EPR embedding > #1322: Use of Proxy Certificates > Standard but not widely adopted outside of grid communit > Time boxed certificates (short lived certs) > #1323: Communication of assertions > Profiles for common assertions in headers or Proxy > Certificate > #1324: Separate Security Basic Profile > Should we have a separate profile document for security > > Basic profile tracker is at; > https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?group_id=42&atid=780 > > Thanks, > ---- > Hiro Kishimoto > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dane Skow [mailto:dane@fnal.gov] > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:03 PM > > To: security-area(a)ggf.org > > Cc: Ian Foster; Hiro Kishimoto > > Subject: Update on OGSA Basic Profile Security work > > > > As Frank mentioned in the Security Area Meeting, the OGSA Basic > > Profile is now being worked intensely toward conclusion. The Working > > Group has set a goal of > > mid April for resolving all the open issues with the current draft. The > > majority of > > the new issues opened this meeting have to do with security. Takuya has > > asked for > > a week to allow the interested parties in the Security Area to read the > > current draft > > and comment on the current open issues (or raise others). This means > > that interested > > parties will need to engage within the next few days to have maximal > > effectiveness. > > I encourage those interested in OGSA to engage on the Basic Profile now. > > > > The response to the question about which use cases from the OGSA > > use case document must be supported by the Basic Profile was "all of > > them". However, since > > we will not have a normative spec for WS-Delegation by June, nor do I > > know > > any other credential delegation standard, I suspect there > > was likely a misunderstanding. Takuya will follow up on that question. > > > > I believe Hiro and Ian (chairs of OGSA-WG) > > will second me in saying that input on this document from security > > experts is welcomed and requested. The most effective form would be > > for people to join the mailing list and attend the relevant > > phonecons. The next most > > effective is to download and read the current drafts and provide > > comments to the list. > > > > Frank and Takuya have volunteered to try to alert the area about > > relevant phonecons and open issues. However, they will not be able > > to relay comments/discussion with this > > short timeline. Interested parties will have to join them directly to > > keep up with the discussion. > > > > Cheers, > > Dane > >

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RE: [ogsa-wg] Data: correction for EU daylight saving time
by Dave Berry 27 Mar '05

27 Mar '05

Of course, it would help if I got the correction right. As Susan pointed out in e-mail, the times should actually be: 7.30am PST / 10.30amm EST / 4.30pGMT / 5.30 pm CET. I assume that everyone is now thoroughly confused ;-). Dave. -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Berry Sent: 26 March 2005 17:36 To: ogsa-wg Cc: Dave Pearson; Mario Antonioletti; Martin Westhead; gtr(a)ast.cam.ac.uk; chappella(a)battelle.org; arun(a)sdsc.edu; jxu(a)us.ibm.com; o.tatebe(a)aist.go.jp; Yves.Denneulin(a)imag.fr; ppadala(a)cise.ufl.edu; ivm(a)fnal.gov; jalameda(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu; annc(a)isi.edu; madsen(a)us.ibm.com; allcock(a)mcs.anl.gov; Allen Luniewski; Malcolm Atkinson; Susan Malaika; Peter Clarke (UCL); David E Martin; Peter Kunszt; Ian.Bird(a)cern.ch; Erwin.Laure(a)cern.ch; Gavin.Mccance(a)cern.ch; Scott Oster; Stephen Langella; Shannon Hastings; Manuel Pereira; Ted Anderson; Leo Luan; Mark M. Morgan Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] Data: correction for EU daylight saving time Correction: the time of this meeting will be: 7.30am PST / 10.30am EST / 2.30pm GMT / 3.30 pm CET Dave. -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Berry Sent: 24 March 2005 12:58 To: ogsa-wg Cc: Dave Pearson; Mario Antonioletti; Martin Westhead; gtr(a)ast.cam.ac.uk; chappella(a)battelle.org; arun(a)sdsc.edu; jxu(a)us.ibm.com; o.tatebe(a)aist.go.jp; Yves.Denneulin(a)imag.fr; ppadala(a)cise.ufl.edu; ivm(a)fnal.gov; jalameda(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu; annc(a)isi.edu; madsen(a)us.ibm.com; allcock(a)mcs.anl.gov; Allen Luniewski; Malcolm Atkinson; Susan Malaika; Peter Clarke (UCL); David E Martin; Peter Kunszt; Ian.Bird(a)cern.ch; Erwin.Laure(a)cern.ch; Gavin.Mccance(a)cern.ch; Scott Oster; Stephen Langella; Shannon Hastings; Manuel Pereira; Ted Anderson; Leo Luan; Mark M. Morgan Subject: [ogsa-wg] Data: proposed agenda for Wednesday March 30th Dear all, I propose we have a telcon next Wednesday, March 30th, at our new usual time of 7.30am PST / 10.30am EST / 3.30pm GMT / 4.30 pm CET. UK Dial In: 0845 245 0224 US Dial In: 1866 838 0046 International Dial In: +44 1452 542309 PIN: 632 065 The two main topics I intend to cover are: - draft charter for becoming a working group - progress with the straw man document I will post a full agenda early next week. In the interim I intend to circulate a draft of the WG charter and an update on the document. Best wishes, Dave Berry Research Manager, National e-Science Centre 15 South College St., Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 6514039

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RE: [ogsa-wg] Data: correction for EU daylight saving time
by Dave Berry 26 Mar '05

26 Mar '05

Correction: the time of this meeting will be: 7.30am PST / 10.30am EST / 2.30pm GMT / 3.30 pm CET Dave. -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Berry Sent: 24 March 2005 12:58 To: ogsa-wg Cc: Dave Pearson; Mario Antonioletti; Martin Westhead; gtr(a)ast.cam.ac.uk; chappella(a)battelle.org; arun(a)sdsc.edu; jxu(a)us.ibm.com; o.tatebe(a)aist.go.jp; Yves.Denneulin(a)imag.fr; ppadala(a)cise.ufl.edu; ivm(a)fnal.gov; jalameda(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu; annc(a)isi.edu; madsen(a)us.ibm.com; allcock(a)mcs.anl.gov; Allen Luniewski; Malcolm Atkinson; Susan Malaika; Peter Clarke (UCL); David E Martin; Peter Kunszt; Ian.Bird(a)cern.ch; Erwin.Laure(a)cern.ch; Gavin.Mccance(a)cern.ch; Scott Oster; Stephen Langella; Shannon Hastings; Manuel Pereira; Ted Anderson; Leo Luan; Mark M. Morgan Subject: [ogsa-wg] Data: proposed agenda for Wednesday March 30th Dear all, I propose we have a telcon next Wednesday, March 30th, at our new usual time of 7.30am PST / 10.30am EST / 3.30pm GMT / 4.30 pm CET. UK Dial In: 0845 245 0224 US Dial In: 1866 838 0046 International Dial In: +44 1452 542309 PIN: 632 065 The two main topics I intend to cover are: - draft charter for becoming a working group - progress with the straw man document I will post a full agenda early next week. In the interim I intend to circulate a draft of the WG charter and an update on the document. Best wishes, Dave Berry Research Manager, National e-Science Centre 15 South College St., Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 6514039

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RE: [ogsa-wg] Minutes of March 23 Telecon (resend)
by Treadwell, Jem 24 Mar '05

24 Mar '05

Sorry, the version I attached before was illegible on Windows. The attached version should be better, but if not here's the URL: http://tinyurl.com/6x26p - Jem ________________________________ From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Treadwell, Jem Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:04 AM To: ogsa-wg Subject: [ogsa-wg] Minutes of March 23 Telecon Hi, The minutes of last night's (yesterday's) call are attached and on GridForge. - Jem -- Jem Treadwell Hewlett-Packard Company Phone: (732) 577-6043 200 Route 9 North Fax: (732) 577-6003 Manalapan, NJ 07726 E-mail: Jem.Treadwell(a)hp.com

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Minutes of March 23 Telecon
by Treadwell, Jem 24 Mar '05

24 Mar '05

Hi, The minutes of last night's (yesterday's) call are attached and on GridForge. - Jem -- Jem Treadwell Hewlett-Packard Company Phone: (732) 577-6043 200 Route 9 North Fax: (732) 577-6003 Manalapan, NJ 07726 E-mail: Jem.Treadwell(a)hp.com

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RE: [ogsa-wg] Proposed new telecon time for OGSA Basic Profile discussion
by Djaoui, A (Abdeslem) 24 Mar '05

24 Mar '05

Correction: BST starts on Sunday 27th (not 28th) March. Abdeslem /////////////// -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org]On Behalf Of Djaoui, A (Abdeslem) Sent: 24 March 2005 14:20 To: Tom Maguire; ogsa-wg(a)gridforum.org Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] Proposed new telecon time for OGSA Basic Profile discussion Excellent idea. By the way the UK moves to summer time (GMT+1) on Sunday 28 March. I believe Daylight Saving Time starts on April 3 in the US. So apart from Wednesday 30 March, the relative difference should be the same. Abdeslem /////////// -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org]On Behalf Of Tom Maguire Sent: 24 March 2005 13:59 To: ogsa-wg(a)gridforum.org Subject: [ogsa-wg] Proposed new telecon time for OGSA Basic Profile discussion Importance: High During the OGSA telecon last night (3/23) we discussed the telecon schedule for moving forward on OGSA BP 1.0. The suggestion was to move the telecon time to a more 'friendly' time for key contributors. In that spirit the suggestion is that we move the OGSA BP discussion to Wednesdays 1:00PM - 3:00PM ET (6:00PM - 8:00PM GMT, 10:00AM-11:00AM PT). The plan is to finalize the OGSA BP document by the end of April, as such these calls will take place through April 20th. The calls will devote the first hour to security discussions related to OGSA BP until the issues/trackers related to BP security section are closed down. We need to lock down on a telecon time by Monday 3/28. Is this time acceptable to those who wish to participate? Tom Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. – Antoine de Saint-Exupery T o m M a g u i r e STSM, On Demand Architecture Poughkeepsie, NY 12601

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RE: [ogsa-wg] Proposed new telecon time for OGSA Basic Profile discussion
by Djaoui, A (Abdeslem) 24 Mar '05

24 Mar '05

Excellent idea. By the way the UK moves to summer time (GMT+1) on Sunday 28 March. I believe Daylight Saving Time starts on April 3 in the US. So apart from Wednesday 30 March, the relative difference should be the same. Abdeslem /////////// -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org]On Behalf Of Tom Maguire Sent: 24 March 2005 13:59 To: ogsa-wg(a)gridforum.org Subject: [ogsa-wg] Proposed new telecon time for OGSA Basic Profile discussion Importance: High During the OGSA telecon last night (3/23) we discussed the telecon schedule for moving forward on OGSA BP 1.0. The suggestion was to move the telecon time to a more 'friendly' time for key contributors. In that spirit the suggestion is that we move the OGSA BP discussion to Wednesdays 1:00PM - 3:00PM ET (6:00PM - 8:00PM GMT, 10:00AM-11:00AM PT). The plan is to finalize the OGSA BP document by the end of April, as such these calls will take place through April 20th. The calls will devote the first hour to security discussions related to OGSA BP until the issues/trackers related to BP security section are closed down. We need to lock down on a telecon time by Monday 3/28. Is this time acceptable to those who wish to participate? Tom Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. – Antoine de Saint-Exupery T o m M a g u i r e STSM, On Demand Architecture Poughkeepsie, NY 12601

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RE: [ogsa-wg] Proposed new telecon time for OGSA Basic Profile discussion
by Srinivasan, Latha 24 Mar '05

24 Mar '05

This time will work well for me. -Latha -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Tom Maguire Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:59 AM To: ogsa-wg(a)gridforum.org Subject: [ogsa-wg] Proposed new telecon time for OGSA Basic Profile discussion Importance: High During the OGSA telecon last night (3/23) we discussed the telecon schedule for moving forward on OGSA BP 1.0. The suggestion was to move the telecon time to a more 'friendly' time for key contributors. In that spirit the suggestion is that we move the OGSA BP discussion to Wednesdays 1:00PM - 3:00PM ET (6:00PM - 8:00PM GMT, 10:00AM-11:00AM PT). The plan is to finalize the OGSA BP document by the end of April, as such these calls will take place through April 20th. The calls will devote the first hour to security discussions related to OGSA BP until the issues/trackers related to BP security section are closed down. We need to lock down on a telecon time by Monday 3/28. Is this time acceptable to those who wish to participate? Tom Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. - Antoine de Saint-Exupery T o m M a g u i r e STSM, On Demand Architecture Poughkeepsie, NY 12601

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Proposed new telecon time for OGSA Basic Profile discussion
by Tom Maguire 24 Mar '05

24 Mar '05

During the OGSA telecon last night (3/23) we discussed the telecon schedule for moving forward on OGSA BP 1.0. The suggestion was to move the telecon time to a more 'friendly' time for key contributors. In that spirit the suggestion is that we move the OGSA BP discussion to Wednesdays 1:00PM - 3:00PM ET (6:00PM - 8:00PM GMT, 10:00AM-11:00AM PT). The plan is to finalize the OGSA BP document by the end of April, as such these calls will take place through April 20th. The calls will devote the first hour to security discussions related to OGSA BP until the issues/trackers related to BP security section are closed down. We need to lock down on a telecon time by Monday 3/28. Is this time acceptable to those who wish to participate? Tom Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. – Antoine de Saint-Exupery T o m M a g u i r e STSM, On Demand Architecture Poughkeepsie, NY 12601

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