And as October comes thoughts turn to SC08... For the last two years the HPCP-WG has organized interoperability experiments around the HPC Basic Profile. This year we can demonstrate the use of this OGF recommended standard as it enters production use in products and projects. During OGF 24 we discussed some options for activities at SC08: * Deploy compliant implementations. Record those organizations present at SC08 on the group's wiki page * Interoperability tests around the File Staging profile. Use as the basis of writing and submitting the experience document to the specification from proposed to recommended. Need to define which (of the optional) file staging protocols we should use the resources available for testing the endpoints. * Implementing and using the Application Template. This provides a mechanism to reduce the amount of endpoint specific information a client has to provide to start an activity on a resource. This information is provided (transparently) server side by the endpoint. There is a draft specification. The SC08 experience could be used to refine it. * GLUE. We could use GLUE (if we can agree on a simple way to provide the information and what information to provide) to guide some simple resource selection between HPCBP endpoints. This could be combined with the Application Template to some simple brokering between jobs. Comments welcome on these topics! If there is sufficient interest I would suggest a call next week on Thursday 9th October at 0900 Pacific. Steven
I'd like to be part of the discussion, but have a conflict next Thu at 9am. Would another day work? -- Chris On 3/10/08 08:03 , "Steven Newhouse" <Steven.Newhouse@microsoft.com> wrote:
And as October comes thoughts turn to SC08...
For the last two years the HPCP-WG has organized interoperability experiments around the HPC Basic Profile. This year we can demonstrate the use of this OGF recommended standard as it enters production use in products and projects.
During OGF 24 we discussed some options for activities at SC08:
* Deploy compliant implementations. Record those organizations present at SC08 on the group's wiki page
* Interoperability tests around the File Staging profile. Use as the basis of writing and submitting the experience document to the specification from proposed to recommended. Need to define which (of the optional) file staging protocols we should use the resources available for testing the endpoints.
* Implementing and using the Application Template. This provides a mechanism to reduce the amount of endpoint specific information a client has to provide to start an activity on a resource. This information is provided (transparently) server side by the endpoint. There is a draft specification. The SC08 experience could be used to refine it.
* GLUE. We could use GLUE (if we can agree on a simple way to provide the information and what information to provide) to guide some simple resource selection between HPCBP endpoints. This could be combined with the Application Template to some simple brokering between jobs.
Comments welcome on these topics! If there is sufficient interest I would suggest a call next week on Thursday 9th October at 0900 Pacific.
Steven
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Any day next week at that time slot would work for me. Earlier in the week rather than later would be best IMHO. Steven
-----Original Message----- From: Christopher Smith [mailto:csmith@platform.com] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 11:22 AM To: Steven Newhouse Cc: ogsa-hpcp-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] Thoughts turn to SC08
I'd like to be part of the discussion, but have a conflict next Thu at 9am. Would another day work?
-- Chris
On 3/10/08 08:03 , "Steven Newhouse" <Steven.Newhouse@microsoft.com> wrote:
And as October comes thoughts turn to SC08...
For the last two years the HPCP-WG has organized interoperability experiments around the HPC Basic Profile. This year we can demonstrate the use of this OGF recommended standard as it enters production use in products and projects.
During OGF 24 we discussed some options for activities at SC08:
* Deploy compliant implementations. Record those organizations present at SC08 on the group's wiki page
* Interoperability tests around the File Staging profile. Use as the basis of writing and submitting the experience document to the specification from proposed to recommended. Need to define which (of the optional) file staging protocols we should use the resources available for testing the endpoints.
* Implementing and using the Application Template. This provides a mechanism to reduce the amount of endpoint specific information a client has to provide to start an activity on a resource. This information is provided (transparently) server side by the endpoint. There is a draft specification. The SC08 experience could be used to refine it.
* GLUE. We could use GLUE (if we can agree on a simple way to provide the information and what information to provide) to guide some simple resource selection between HPCBP endpoints. This could be combined with the Application Template to some simple brokering between jobs.
Comments welcome on these topics! If there is sufficient interest I would suggest a call next week on Thursday 9th October at 0900 Pacific.
Steven
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How about Wed in that time slot? Mon and Tue are not good for me, unfortunately. What do others think? Either post to the list or email us privately. -- Marty -----Original Message----- From: ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Steven Newhouse Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:27 PM To: Christopher Smith Cc: ogsa-hpcp-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] Thoughts turn to SC08 Any day next week at that time slot would work for me. Earlier in the week rather than later would be best IMHO. Steven
-----Original Message----- From: Christopher Smith [mailto:csmith@platform.com] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 11:22 AM To: Steven Newhouse Cc: ogsa-hpcp-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] Thoughts turn to SC08
I'd like to be part of the discussion, but have a conflict next Thu at 9am. Would another day work?
-- Chris
On 3/10/08 08:03 , "Steven Newhouse" <Steven.Newhouse@microsoft.com> wrote:
And as October comes thoughts turn to SC08...
For the last two years the HPCP-WG has organized interoperability experiments around the HPC Basic Profile. This year we can demonstrate the use of this OGF recommended standard as it enters production use in products and projects.
During OGF 24 we discussed some options for activities at SC08:
* Deploy compliant implementations. Record those organizations present at SC08 on the group's wiki page
* Interoperability tests around the File Staging profile. Use as the basis of writing and submitting the experience document to the specification from proposed to recommended. Need to define which (of the optional) file staging protocols we should use the resources available for testing the endpoints.
* Implementing and using the Application Template. This provides a mechanism to reduce the amount of endpoint specific information a client has to provide to start an activity on a resource. This information is provided (transparently) server side by the endpoint. There is a draft specification. The SC08 experience could be used to refine it.
* GLUE. We could use GLUE (if we can agree on a simple way to provide the information and what information to provide) to guide some simple resource selection between HPCBP endpoints. This could be combined with the Application Template to some simple brokering between jobs.
Comments welcome on these topics! If there is sufficient interest I would suggest a call next week on Thursday 9th October at 0900 Pacific.
Steven
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Wed is good for me. -- Chris On 3/10/08 11:49 , "Marty Humphrey" <humphrey@cs.virginia.edu> wrote:
How about Wed in that time slot? Mon and Tue are not good for me, unfortunately.
What do others think? Either post to the list or email us privately.
-- Marty
-----Original Message----- From: ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Steven Newhouse Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:27 PM To: Christopher Smith Cc: ogsa-hpcp-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] Thoughts turn to SC08
Any day next week at that time slot would work for me. Earlier in the week rather than later would be best IMHO.
Steven
-----Original Message----- From: Christopher Smith [mailto:csmith@platform.com] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 11:22 AM To: Steven Newhouse Cc: ogsa-hpcp-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] Thoughts turn to SC08
I'd like to be part of the discussion, but have a conflict next Thu at 9am. Would another day work?
-- Chris
On 3/10/08 08:03 , "Steven Newhouse" <Steven.Newhouse@microsoft.com> wrote:
And as October comes thoughts turn to SC08...
For the last two years the HPCP-WG has organized interoperability experiments around the HPC Basic Profile. This year we can demonstrate the use of this OGF recommended standard as it enters production use in products and projects.
During OGF 24 we discussed some options for activities at SC08:
* Deploy compliant implementations. Record those organizations present at SC08 on the group's wiki page
* Interoperability tests around the File Staging profile. Use as the basis of writing and submitting the experience document to the specification from proposed to recommended. Need to define which (of the optional) file staging protocols we should use the resources available for testing the endpoints.
* Implementing and using the Application Template. This provides a mechanism to reduce the amount of endpoint specific information a client has to provide to start an activity on a resource. This information is provided (transparently) server side by the endpoint. There is a draft specification. The SC08 experience could be used to refine it.
* GLUE. We could use GLUE (if we can agree on a simple way to provide the information and what information to provide) to guide some simple resource selection between HPCBP endpoints. This could be combined with the Application Template to some simple brokering between jobs.
Comments welcome on these topics! If there is sufficient interest I would suggest a call next week on Thursday 9th October at 0900 Pacific.
Steven
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We (Genesis II) would also like to participate. We have implemented the FS extensions and use them quite a bit. 9 am what time zone by the way? Wednesday's I can be open EXCEPT 2:00-3:30 Eastern. A
-----Original Message----- From: ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Marty Humphrey Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:50 PM To: 'Steven Newhouse'; 'Christopher Smith' Cc: ogsa-hpcp-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] Thoughts turn to SC08
How about Wed in that time slot? Mon and Tue are not good for me, unfortunately.
What do others think? Either post to the list or email us privately.
-- Marty
-----Original Message----- From: ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Steven Newhouse Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:27 PM To: Christopher Smith Cc: ogsa-hpcp-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] Thoughts turn to SC08
Any day next week at that time slot would work for me. Earlier in the week rather than later would be best IMHO.
Steven
-----Original Message----- From: Christopher Smith [mailto:csmith@platform.com] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 11:22 AM To: Steven Newhouse Cc: ogsa-hpcp-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] Thoughts turn to SC08
I'd like to be part of the discussion, but have a conflict next Thu at 9am. Would another day work?
-- Chris
On 3/10/08 08:03 , "Steven Newhouse" <Steven.Newhouse@microsoft.com> wrote:
And as October comes thoughts turn to SC08...
For the last two years the HPCP-WG has organized interoperability experiments around the HPC Basic Profile. This year we can demonstrate the use of this OGF recommended standard as it enters production use in products and projects.
During OGF 24 we discussed some options for activities at SC08:
* Deploy compliant implementations. Record those organizations present at SC08 on the group's wiki page
* Interoperability tests around the File Staging profile. Use as the basis of writing and submitting the experience document to the specification from proposed to recommended. Need to define which (of the optional) file staging protocols we should use the resources available for testing the endpoints.
* Implementing and using the Application Template. This provides a mechanism to reduce the amount of endpoint specific information a client has to provide to start an activity on a resource. This information is provided (transparently) server side by the endpoint. There is a draft specification. The SC08 experience could be used to refine it.
* GLUE. We could use GLUE (if we can agree on a simple way to provide the information and what information to provide) to guide some simple resource selection between HPCBP endpoints. This could be combined with the Application Template to some simple brokering between jobs.
Comments welcome on these topics! If there is sufficient interest I would suggest a call next week on Thursday 9th October at 0900 Pacific.
Steven
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There seems to be sufficient interest for a call on WEDNESDAY 8th October at 0900 Pacific. Participant Pass Code: 2719140 USA +1 (866) 500-6738 UK +44 118 909 2000 Steven
-----Original Message----- From: ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-hpcp-wg- bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Steven Newhouse Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 8:03 AM To: ogsa-hpcp-wg@ogf.org Subject: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] Thoughts turn to SC08
And as October comes thoughts turn to SC08...
For the last two years the HPCP-WG has organized interoperability experiments around the HPC Basic Profile. This year we can demonstrate the use of this OGF recommended standard as it enters production use in products and projects.
During OGF 24 we discussed some options for activities at SC08:
* Deploy compliant implementations. Record those organizations present at SC08 on the group's wiki page
* Interoperability tests around the File Staging profile. Use as the basis of writing and submitting the experience document to the specification from proposed to recommended. Need to define which (of the optional) file staging protocols we should use the resources available for testing the endpoints.
* Implementing and using the Application Template. This provides a mechanism to reduce the amount of endpoint specific information a client has to provide to start an activity on a resource. This information is provided (transparently) server side by the endpoint. There is a draft specification. The SC08 experience could be used to refine it.
* GLUE. We could use GLUE (if we can agree on a simple way to provide the information and what information to provide) to guide some simple resource selection between HPCBP endpoints. This could be combined with the Application Template to some simple brokering between jobs.
Comments welcome on these topics! If there is sufficient interest I would suggest a call next week on Thursday 9th October at 0900 Pacific.
Steven
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As discussed last week... we will try and do a bit of brainstorming around GLUE and the HPCBP. Apologies for the late reminder Call on WEDNESDAY 15th October at 0900 Pacific.
Participant Pass Code: 2719140
USA +1 (866) 500-6738 UK +44 118 909 2000
Steven
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Steven Newhouse