October 2008 - ogsa-hpcp-wg

BES & GLUE Telecon
by Steven Newhouse 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Present Marty Humphrey Chris Smith Steven Newhouse GLUE Discussions We decided that none of us had spare time to ensure there would be a BES & GLUE integration for SC08. Clearly there will be other GLUE and other BES activities taking place at SC08. The next reasonable target to push for would be OGF 25 in March. No other AOB the call ended early.

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GLUE and BES telecon
by Steven Newhouse 31 Oct '08

31 Oct '08

Present: Steven Newhouse Chris Smith Marty Humphreys Shahbaz Memon Discussion: We reviewed various example BES renderings involving the GLUE 2.0 schema: e.g. http://glueman.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/glueman/trunk/glue-xsd/examples/g… We decided that we would each continue to work on customizing these examples for our own endpoints and send examples to the list. Call on FRIDAY 31st October at 9AM PACIFIC to continue the GLUE/BES discussion.

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SC08 Demos
by Steven Newhouse 24 Oct '08

24 Oct '08

I've refactored the group's Wiki page for SC08: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.ogsa-hpcp-wg/wiki/H… Please complete the table listing: * The project * The software * The stand detail (if on one) * HPCBP Endpoint (can be filled in later) * File Staging support and protocols * Application Template support * Contact Steven

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SC08 Call
by Steven Newhouse 24 Oct '08

24 Oct '08

Present Steven Newhouse Mark Morgan Bill Nitzberg Chris Smith Joel Replogle Shabaz Apologies Marty Humphrey Current Status * Platform: Got some internal code running. Plans to do Application Profile and File Staging. Possibly end of next week. Contact Chris for username/password or provide CA details. * Genesis II: Endpoint up in the next few days. Will put username & password on wiki. * Microsoft: Endpoint who will go up on the wiki at the start of the show. Contact Steven next week for a password. * Unicore: Endpoint the end of next week. Contact Shabaz for username & password. * Altair: Has resources to do something once they get to SC08. Is there a data source we can use? * Chris can probably do FTP, SCP or HTTP (get no put) * Bill can probably do SCP Application Template profile * Sleep / HelloWorld * Maybe BLAST on the Platform endpoint * Bill looking for Altair's Radioss to go on the HPCS 2008 cluster on the MS stand Publicity * Wiki should be recording point for publicity material can be used by Joel (& others) * All material MUST be finalized by November 7th as it will then be used to generate printed copies Next Meeting - Friday 7th November 9AM Pacific. Joel to supply new call in details.

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FW: SC08 Demo telecon - REMINDER
by Steven Newhouse 23 Oct '08

23 Oct '08

We have a call to sync up on progress at 9AM (PACIFIC) on FRIDAY 24th October 2008 > Participant Pass Code: 2719140 > > USA +1 (866) 500-6738 > UK +44 118 909 2000 > -----Original Message----- > From: ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces(a)ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-hpcp-wg- > bounces(a)ogf.org] On Behalf Of Steven Newhouse > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:52 PM > To: ogsa-hpcp-wg(a)ogf.org > Subject: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] SC08 Demo telecon > > The next SC08 Demo telecom will take place on FRIDAY 24th October 2008 > at 9am PACIFIC time > > Steven > -- > ogsa-hpcp-wg mailing list > ogsa-hpcp-wg(a)ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-hpcp-wg

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SC08 Demo telecon
by Steven Newhouse 15 Oct '08

15 Oct '08

The next SC08 Demo telecom will take place on FRIDAY 24th October 2008 at 9am PACIFIC time Steven

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Thoughts turn to SC08
by Steven Newhouse 15 Oct '08

15 Oct '08

And as October comes thoughts turn to SC08... For the last two years the HPCP-WG has organized interoperability experiments around the HPC Basic Profile. This year we can demonstrate the use of this OGF recommended standard as it enters production use in products and projects. During OGF 24 we discussed some options for activities at SC08: * Deploy compliant implementations. Record those organizations present at SC08 on the group's wiki page * Interoperability tests around the File Staging profile. Use as the basis of writing and submitting the experience document to the specification from proposed to recommended. Need to define which (of the optional) file staging protocols we should use the resources available for testing the endpoints. * Implementing and using the Application Template. This provides a mechanism to reduce the amount of endpoint specific information a client has to provide to start an activity on a resource. This information is provided (transparently) server side by the endpoint. There is a draft specification. The SC08 experience could be used to refine it. * GLUE. We could use GLUE (if we can agree on a simple way to provide the information and what information to provide) to guide some simple resource selection between HPCBP endpoints. This could be combined with the Application Template to some simple brokering between jobs. Comments welcome on these topics! If there is sufficient interest I would suggest a call next week on Thursday 9th October at 0900 Pacific. Steven

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HPCBP SC07 Flyer
by Steven Newhouse 08 Oct '08

08 Oct '08

All, This is the SC07 flyer. As per today's call Marty will be coordinating the updates needed to turn it into the SC08 flyer. Please send all updates & additions to him. Steven

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SC08 Demo Call
by Steven Newhouse 08 Oct '08

08 Oct '08

Present: Marty Humphrey Mark Morgan Joel Replogle Stephen McGough Steven Newhouse Chris Smith Vesso Novov Bill Nitzberg Agenda 1. Available implementations * Software: GridSAM, Genesis II, Platform, Microsoft, UVA - Service on WinHPC Server, UVA - Service on PBS, Altair consumes a HPCBP endpoint * SC08 Presence: Genesis II (people no space), Platform (looking for demo time), Altair (space but no people yet), Microsoft (space and people), GridSAM (no space, maybe people) 2. File Staging Support Genesis II - Supports SCP but could do others UVa - Support needs TBC Altair - Client side file staging. Supports 'everything' if the client & services installed. Platform - Thinks BES++ supports FTP. Microsoft - Support FTPS with an extension for SCP GridSAM - Supports FTPS, SFTP, HTTP, WEBDAV, GridFTP. Will look to see if SCP can be supported. SCP may be the common protocol, but not critical as we can do pairwise testing. 3. Application Template Fairly straight forward to implement. Put a standard 'JSDL' on the wiki page for a number of applications. The localized information is provided server side: * sleep * executes something locally * executes something locally with input & output data files. Open source applications available on Windows & Linux. Find data sets to provide short run times. 4. GLUE What aspects of GLUE might we want to use? We could just return a GLUE document. * Do we want to specify what we want to return for a BES endpoint? * How can we use the returned GLUE elements to select a resource or something? Look to return (minimally) * Execution environment * Application environment Probably leave out the share aspect in the first pass. Need to separate out what we might do now for SC08 against what we do long term. 5. SC08 Demo * Do pairwise interaction to verify the file staging specification for the experience document * Have application templates that people can use * Record material on the OGF wiki page 6. SC08 BOF Wednesday evening. Marty will ping the group for possible involvement once the plans for the BOF crystallizes. The BOF could cover current status, discuss current work (file staging, application template) and future work (GLUE). 7. AOB * Promotion - updating the one pager Action: * Have a call (next Wednesday) where we see what the GLUE schema does! * Wiki page for SC08 * SC08 demo call in two weeks time * Provide update details to Marty on one pager.

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