December 2007 - ogsa-hpcp-wg

latest version of the HPC File Staging Profile
by Glenn Wasson 22 Dec '07

22 Dec '07

All, This is the latest version of the File Staging Profile that we spoke about on the last phone call. I have made small updates to sections 3.1.2 (no <FileSystemName>), 3.3 (defining supported protocol, uri syntax and disallowing embedded u/p info) and 4.2 (calling out the difficulty w/ determining stage-out errors). Please look at this version and re-cache our state on this for the next telecon. Glenn

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LAST CALL for HPCBP experiences document
by Glenn Wasson 21 Dec '07

21 Dec '07

All, This is the LAST CALL for the HPC Basic Profile experiences document (attached). This version includes Bill Nitzberg's text and Chris Smith's comments from the previous draft. Please send any comments you have as we will submit this to the editors in 1 week. Glenn

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latest experiences document
by Glenn Wasson 18 Dec '07

18 Dec '07

All, Here is the latest version of the experiences document updated with everything that I have been sent through Monday (as agreed on the last phone call). The Issues section has been re-factored into "specification" and "hosting environment" specific issues. I have also updated any URLs and interop matrix entries which people mailed me. Have a look and send me comments. In particular, I have not received confirmation from everyone that the interop matrices are correct. We're looking to submit this right after Christmas, so the comment period will be open for 1 week, starting today. Thanks, Glenn

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HPCBP Extensions Short-list
by Bill Nitzberg 14 Dec '07

14 Dec '07

Hi, I had occasion to have coffee with Chris Smith today, and we discussed what we think would be the most useful near-term extensions to the HPCBP. Turns out our list is pretty short (in no particular order): File staging (already in process) Kerberos credentials (with Active Directory support) Application inventory (a simple list of available applications, maybe leveraging the Glue Scheme work) Machine inventory (a list of hardware: hosts, cpus, memory, etc, as well as what's in use and what's free; maybe also leveraging the Glue Scheme) Resource usage data (for simple accounting and status reporting) Anyone else interested in any of these areas? Anyone interested enough to work on drafting an extension? Best regards, - bill Bill Nitzberg Altair PBS Gridworks

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latest version of the experiences document
by Glenn Wasson 14 Dec '07

14 Dec '07

Hello, Attached is the latest version of the experiences document - thanks to everyone who contributed text! Please have a look and send me comments. I have not included the various paragraphs about the projects because I wanted to keep this document focused on the interop scenarios, but I have now included project URLs so that interested parties have a place to go to find out more. Please make sure that the URLs in there are the ones you would like. Also, I have added 2 matrices to the results section, one for username/password and one for X.509. Currently, they both are copies of the matrix from the SC07 wiki. What I'd like everyone to do is to verify that these matrices do, in fact, represent the current state of your interop. In other words, I know some people only did X.509 authentication and so the username/password matrix is probably wrong for those projects. This isn't a bad thing (since compliance doesn't require you to implement username/password), I just want to make sure I understand the current state of things. Also, I know that some projects had problems with particular other projects on particular methods and I want to make sure that the document captures the final state of those issues. Hopefully we can straighten all this out on the call tomorrow. Glenn

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Re: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] latest version of the experiences document
by Vesso Novov 13 Dec '07

13 Dec '07

Vesso Novov wrote: > Glenn, > Just a couple of comments: > > 1. Section "2 Implementation" > - the GridSAM URL in the table > "http://gridsam.sourceforge.net/2.0.1/index.html" > will always point to version "2.0.1". With this - > "http://gridsam.sourceforge.net/" the users are automatically > re-directed to the latest version. > > 2. Section "4 Issues Encountered" > - I split the GridSAM issues in two sub-sections; "HPCBP > Client->GridSAM Service" and "GridSAM Client->HPCBP Service". > In the document is not clear where the "GridSAM Client->HPCBP Service" > section ends and the Nordugrid issues start - page 8. > I'm suggesting either separating the entire section 4 into > project-specific subsections or clarifying in each "Issue" text whose > client/service it refers to. > (assuming, we want to document 'Who' had issues with 'What' and not > just 'What' issues there were). > > --Vesso > > > Glenn Wasson wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Attached is the latest version of the experiences document - thanks >> to everyone who contributed text! Please have a look and send me >> comments. >> I have not included the various paragraphs about the projects because I >> wanted to keep this document focused on the interop scenarios, but I >> have >> now included project URLs so that interested parties have a place to >> go to >> find out more. Please make sure that the URLs in there are the ones you >> would like. >> Also, I have added 2 matrices to the results section, one for >> username/password and one for X.509. Currently, they both are copies >> of the >> matrix from the SC07 wiki. What I'd like everyone to do is to verify >> that >> these matrices do, in fact, represent the current state of your >> interop. In >> other words, I know some people only did X.509 authentication and so the >> username/password matrix is probably wrong for those projects. This >> isn't a >> bad thing (since compliance doesn't require you to implement >> username/password), I just want to make sure I understand the current >> state >> of things. Also, I know that some projects had problems with particular >> other projects on particular methods and I want to make sure that the >> document captures the final state of those issues. >> >> Hopefully we can straighten all this out on the call tomorrow. >> >> Glenn >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -- >> ogsa-hpcp-wg mailing list >> ogsa-hpcp-wg(a)ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-hpcp-wg >

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Telecon Thursday 13th December
by Steven Newhouse 13 Dec '07

13 Dec '07

Time: 9.30AM (Pacific), 12.30PM (East Coast), 5.30PM (UK) Call details: PIN - 2719140 USA: 866 500 6738 UK +44 118 909 2000 I'll try and supply further local numbers if people require them. Basic Agenda 1. OGF IPR Notice 2. Agenda Bashing 3. Experience document 4. HPCP - What next? Discussion points: * File staging (already in process) * Kerberos credentials (with Active Directory support) * Application inventory (a simple list of available applications, maybe leveraging the Glue Scheme work) * Machine inventory (a list of hardware: hosts, cpus, memory, etc, as well as what's in use and what's free; maybe also leveraging the Glue Scheme) * Resource usage data (for simple accounting and status reporting) 5. Any Other Business

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Experience document updated with UNICORE details
by Mohammad Shahbaz Memon 11 Dec '07

11 Dec '07

Hi all, Attached is the updated experience document. Regards, -- ------------------ Mohammad Shahbaz Memon Distributed Systems and Grid Computing (VSGC) Jülich Supercomputing Center (JSC) Forschungszentrum Jülich GmbH Jülich Germany

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Telecon Notes
by Steven Newhouse 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

Present: Glenn Wasson Marty Humphrey Steven Newhouse Bill Nitzberg Gabor Roczei Actions: * Bill to add details of Altair's implementation experience to document. * Glenn to update docs * Glenn to pass sample JSDL to Steven for testing * Vesso to update GridSAM implementation details in experiences document * Shahbaz to update Unicore implementation details in experiences document Agenda: 1. IPR Notice 2. Experiences Document * Gabor: Implemented username & password to submit jobs to GridSAM, UVa, Unicore & others. Problem with CREAM & Platform implementations that need to be resolved. * Glenn: To add technical details on the testing around fault handling * Glenn: Send XML to Steven to try and see if JSDL parsing error can be reproduced. 3. AOB * Gabor: Clarification on Terminate & Cancel DONM: A week

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Experiences document update
by Gabor ROCZEI 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

Dear All, I updated the experiences document. It is attached! Cheers, Gabor Roczei

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