Proposed Agenda for 11/07/2007 call
Dear OGSA-DMI participants, this is the proposed agenda for the upcoming OGSA-DMI telecon on 11 July 2007 at 16:00 to 17:00 UTC. For local timezone translations, please visit http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=11&month=07&year=2007&hour=16&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 To subscribe to the OGSA-DMI calendar, go to http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/linkedapplication/do/viewLinkedApplication/pro... The dial-in numbers are: UK: +44 (0) 207 9783 410 US: +1 718 354 1177 (East Coast) +1 408 961 6567 (West Coast) JP: +81 (0) 335 708 280 More numbers may be added upon request. Participant passcode is: 2051278 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa-dmi.glance.net/?key=0711 PROPOSED AGENDA =============== Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion (15 min) - Note taker assignment - Roll call - Telecon minutes approvals - Action item review - Agenda bashing 2) Use Case Example documents (25 min) - Document of Steven Newhouse et al - DOcument of Michel Drescher 3) Functional Specification (20 min) Current draft: http://forge.ogf.org/short/OGSA-DMI-WG/spec 4) Wrap up AOB
I see no point talking about the specification until we have reached some solid views on security and the DEPR through these use cases. We seem to be going round and round in circles. Again. Steven PROPOSED AGENDA =============== Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion (15 min) - Note taker assignment - Roll call - Telecon minutes approvals - Action item review - Agenda bashing 2) Use Case Example documents (25 min) - Document of Steven Newhouse et al - DOcument of Michel Drescher 3) Functional Specification (20 min) Current draft: http://forge.ogf.org/short/OGSA-DMI-WG/spec 4) Wrap up AOB
Michel, Some comments and correcions :) ... sorry - force of habit .. can't resist. There are a couple of ambiguities but it on the whole it demonstrates that things can be done using DMI. My one concern is that although how the DEPRs are created is out of scope for DMI I feel that DMI has to specify what a DEPR is and what can go in it in order to operate to use the DMI framework - I guess that's what part of the spec is there for. The more issue to be resolved is the one that Steven has brought up - is there any advantage in embedding the DMI information inside the EPR as opposed to using additional DMI information in the SOAP header/body? If there is no clear advantage to either which method should we opt for - I get the impression that you advocate DMI info inside the EPR while Steven would prefer it outside. Anyone else got any views on this? Mario On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Michel Drescher wrote:
Dear OGSA-DMI participants,
this is the proposed agenda for the upcoming OGSA-DMI telecon on 11 July 2007 at 16:00 to 17:00 UTC.
For local timezone translations, please visit http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=11&month=07&year=2007&hour=16&min=0&sec=0&p1=0
To subscribe to the OGSA-DMI calendar, go to http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/linkedapplication/do/viewLinkedApplication/pro...
The dial-in numbers are: UK: +44 (0) 207 9783 410 US: +1 718 354 1177 (East Coast) +1 408 961 6567 (West Coast) JP: +81 (0) 335 708 280 More numbers may be added upon request.
Participant passcode is: 2051278
Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa-dmi.glance.net/?key=0711
PROPOSED AGENDA ===============
Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php
1) Early discussion (15 min) - Note taker assignment - Roll call - Telecon minutes approvals - Action item review - Agenda bashing
2) Use Case Example documents (25 min) - Document of Steven Newhouse et al - DOcument of Michel Drescher
3) Functional Specification (20 min) Current draft: http://forge.ogf.org/short/OGSA-DMI-WG/spec
4) Wrap up AOB
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Mario Antonioletti:EPCC,JCMB,The King's Buildings,Edinburgh EH9 3JZ. | |Tel:0131 650 5141|mario@epcc.ed.ac.uk|http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/~mario/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
- is there any advantage in embedding the DMI information inside the EPR as opposed to using additional DMI information in the SOAP header/body? If there is no clear advantage to either which method should we opt for - I get the impression that you advocate DMI info inside the EPR while Steven would prefer it outside. Can I propose a third way.... the critical point is there needs to be information to be passed about. Lets capture that in a data structure. That information could be passed about as meta data in an EPR or it could come from other sources and be passed into the data transfer startup operation. That would not seem to need the EPR part of the data EPR - just the data. Steven
Mario,
I have never been comfortable with putting all of this information inside
the DEPRs. So, I think that your question is the right one: are there any
clear advantages to putting the DMI information in the DEPR? If there is
not, I would vote for making them explicit parameters (i.e., putting them
in the SOAP header/body).
Allen Luniewski
IBM Cross Brand Services
IBM Silicon Valley Laboratory
555 Bailey Ave.
San Jose, CA 95141
408-463-2255
408-930-1844 (mobile)
Mario
Antonioletti
Dear OGSA-DMI participants,
this is the proposed agenda for the upcoming OGSA-DMI telecon on 11 July 2007 at 16:00 to 17:00 UTC.
For local timezone translations, please visit
To subscribe to the OGSA-DMI calendar, go to
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/linkedapplication/do/viewLinkedApplication/pro...
The dial-in numbers are: UK: +44 (0) 207 9783 410 US: +1 718 354 1177 (East Coast) +1 408 961 6567 (West Coast) JP: +81 (0) 335 708 280 More numbers may be added upon request.
Participant passcode is: 2051278
Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa-dmi.glance.net/?key=0711
PROPOSED AGENDA ===============
Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php
1) Early discussion (15 min) - Note taker assignment - Roll call - Telecon minutes approvals - Action item review - Agenda bashing
2) Use Case Example documents (25 min) - Document of Steven Newhouse et al - DOcument of Michel Drescher
3) Functional Specification (20 min) Current draft: http://forge.ogf.org/short/OGSA-DMI-WG/spec
4) Wrap up AOB
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Mario Antonioletti:EPCC,JCMB,The King's Buildings,Edinburgh EH9 3JZ. | |Tel:0131 650 5141|mario@epcc.ed.ac.uk|http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/~mario/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ (See attached file: OGSA-DMI-ExampleUseCase-MDr.doc)-- ogsa-dmi-wg mailing list ogsa-dmi-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-dmi-wg
participants (4)
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Allen Luniewski -
Mario Antonioletti -
Michel Drescher -
Steven Newhouse