December 2006 - ogsa-dmi-wg

Resend: NO CALL on Wed 3 January 2007
by Michel Drescher 14 Dec '06

14 Dec '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, on today's call we agreed to cancel the call on 3 January 2007. Date of next call is 10 January 2007. Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFgU1Bk0lMZTNKw4QRAgNfAJ94m/2yYbIYaCaOEAH7ug96+dE44gCgpWcH DNoQA9dHyA5D5BxYauRQOUg= =4HH3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Resend: NO CALL on Wed 27 December 2006
by Michel Drescher 14 Dec '06

14 Dec '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, on today's call we agreed to cancel the call on 27 December 2006. Date of next call is 10 January 2007. Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFgU0zk0lMZTNKw4QRAgdDAKDAg0f32oG8RIEoz8CtE0W5RL16AQCgzS1h d8GmKLdKMlo8Tm+NPACRmFk= =9zhU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Resend: NO CALL on Wed 20 December 2006
by Michel Drescher 14 Dec '06

14 Dec '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, on today's call we agreed to cancel the call on 20 December 2006. Date of next call is 10 January 2007. Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFgU0ik0lMZTNKw4QRAknMAJ9lIZL/asTh5j0Ef9LWl0pc/5XQnwCg0PMq BL0XV4aJZr6ewlLNkPiFnS0= =Ro8w -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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OGF-19 GSM-WG session
by Alex Sim 14 Dec '06

14 Dec '06

OGF-19 GSM-WG session is currently scheduled on 2/1, 6pm. --Alex

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Uploaded minutes from today;s telecon
by Ravi Madduri 14 Dec '06

14 Dec '06

https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.ogsa-dmi… -- Ravi K Madduri The Globus Alliance | Argonne National Laboratory http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/~madduri

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Third party transfers with HTTP
by Paul Millar 13 Dec '06

13 Dec '06

Hi all, I didn't want to derail the phone conversation, but there's a guy within the UK GridPP project (Andrew McNab) who has a mechanism (and software) for doing 3rd party replicatation with HTTP. The details are available from the following link, page 8 onward. He uses http for the bulk transfer and https for the delegation and control parts, but in principle all transfers can be http or https. http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/meetings/chep06/gridsite-mcnab-15feb06.pdf Cheers, Paul.

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[Fwd: Re: [GSM-WG] Data Transfer Chapter from OGSA Data Architecture Document]
by Ravi Madduri 13 Dec '06

13 Dec '06

Alex Sim's Comments -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [GSM-WG] Data Transfer Chapter from OGSA Data Architecture Document Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 10:27:51 -0800 From: Alex Sim <asim(a)lbl.gov> Reply-To: asim(a)lbl.gov Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory To: 'Dave Berry' <daveb(a)nesc.ac.uk>, <shoshani(a)lbl.gov>, <peter.kunszt(a)cern.ch>, <makeit(a)eyou.com>, <a00ymw00(a)nchc.org.tw>, <kju(a)kisti.re.kr> CC: gsm-wg(a)ogf.org, "'Allen Luniewski'" <luniew(a)us.ibm.com> References: <2AC085FCF3E737448BE6E2D11A2709F64F1A37(a)crosby.nesc.ed.ac.uk> A few comments: 1. it's not clear how the client finds out the source and target "WS-Name". 2. it's not clear how the client monitors status and adjusts performance and terminates the transfer. Termination part can be assumed to be there from the higher arch (is it resource properties?), but can clients assume the status and performance adjustment of the data transfer to be done as well through the same? If so, operations services such as pause/resume/stop can be done through the same higher (or separate) mechanism? Same for GetSupportedProtocols? 4. Who makes sure the data transfer does not fail because of the lack of storage space in the "sink"? Is it DMI service or the client or the actual underlying transfer service such as RFT or SRM ? In the requirements of the data transfer mechanism, should that be added as a statement about that? --Alex > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Berry [mailto:daveb@nesc.ac.uk] > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:46 AM > To: Dave Berry; shoshani(a)lbl.gov; peter.kunszt(a)cern.ch; makeit(a)eyou.com; > a00ymw00(a)nchc.org.tw; asim(a)lbl.gov; kju(a)kisti.re.kr > Cc: Allen Luniewski; gsm-wg(a)ogf.org > Subject: RE: Data Transfer Chapter from OGSA Data Architecture Document > > Dear GSM WG, > > We haven't received any comments in response to our request below. > Please could you read our Data Transfer chapter and send us feedback? > > Best wishes, > > Dave Berry > Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science > Centre, 15 South College Street > Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dave Berry > > Sent: 21 October 2006 12:57 > > To: shoshani(a)lbl.gov; peter.kunszt(a)cern.ch; makeit(a)eyou.com; > > a00ymw00(a)nchc.org.tw; asim(a)lbl.gov; kju(a)kisti.re.kr > > Cc: Allen Luniewski; gsm-wg(a)ogf.org > > Subject: Data Transfer Chapter from OGSA Data Architecture Document > > > > Dear GSM WG, > > > > The OGSA Data Architecture WG held a F2F at the end of August. At > > that time, we worked with the DMI WG to clarify what the data > > architecture calls out in the area of data transfer. We would like to > > share what the architecture document now says about data transfer. > > This extract is below. Your feedback will be most appreciated. > > > > Dave Berry > > Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National > > e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street > > Edinburgh, EH8 9AA Tel: +44 131 651 4039 > > -- gsm-wg mailing list gsm-wg(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/gsm-wg -- Ravi K Madduri The Globus Alliance | Argonne National Laboratory http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/~madduri

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Proposed Agenda for 13/12/06 call
by Michel Drescher 13 Dec '06

13 Dec '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear OGSA-DMI participants, this is the proposed agenda for the upcoming OGSA-DMI telecon on Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 16:00 to 17:00 UTC. For local timezone translations, please visit http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=13&month=12&year=2… To subscribe to the OGSA-DMI calendar, go to http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/linkedapplication/do/viewLinkedApplication/pr… The dial-in numbers are: UK: +44 (0) 207 9783 410 US: +1 718 354 1177 (East Coast) +1 408 961 6567 (West Coast) JP: +81 (0) 335 708 280 More numbers may be added upon request. Participant passcode is: 2051278 AGENDA ====== 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approvals - 15 Nov 06: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14017?nav=1 Agenda bashing 2) Use Cases (30 min) - Unicore File Transfer Use Cases: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13999?nav=1 - EGEE FTS Use Cases: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14005?nav=1 - SRMCopy Use Cases: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14039?nav=1 3) OGF19 Planning (20 min) - Draft session agendas 4) OGSA-Data Data Transfer chapter on OGSA-DMI (20 min) - see Dave Berry's mail: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/ogsa-dmi-wg/2006-December/000084.html 5) Wrap up (10 min) AOB Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFf9Mck0lMZTNKw4QRAk9HAJ0ZhTl8+45+c4ZkA0VjXOWUZ/LfQgCeOfdI ugH/K5uyDN5Z65fULE/WQ9k= =7xYW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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OGF19: Tentative schedule
by Michel Drescher 12 Dec '06

12 Dec '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, we got a tentative schedule, for both requested sessions: Session 1: 1 February 2007 14:00 to 15:30 Room Azalea Session 2: 1 February 2007 16:00 to 17:30 Room Azalea The only other requests that are scheduled so far are: OGSA-Data :-) Ravi, can you please update our Google calendar? Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFfrrpk0lMZTNKw4QRAgzZAJ90U7HJLb5acQRG93pjGkpyZwwhVACeLppw yyxyJPQ21HHdUTnjv2mo1wk= =rwNj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Minutes from 12-06-2006
by Ravi Madduri 06 Dec '06

06 Dec '06

Participants Gavin, Ravi Apologies: Michel, Paul, Alex We discussed about DMI Extract from OGSA data architecture - Alex already sent his comments to the list Action Item: - Everybody should plan on sending their comments by next tuesday -- Ravi K Madduri The Globus Alliance | Argonne National Laboratory http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/~madduri

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