November 2006 - ogsa-dmi-wg

Proposed Agenda for 29/11/06 call
by Michel Drescher 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear OGSA-DMI participants, this is the proposed agenda for the upcoming OGSA-DMI telecon on Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 16:00 to 17:00 UTC. For local timezone translations, please visit http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=01&month=11&year=2… The dial-in numbers are: UK: +44 (0) 207 9783 410 US: +1 718 354 1177 (East Coast) +1 408 961 6567 (West Coast) JP: +81 (0) 335 708 280 More numbers may be added upon request. Participant passcode is: 2051278 AGENDA ====== 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approvals - 15 Nov 2006: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14017?nav=1 Agenda bashing 2) Use Cases (30 min) - Unicore File Transfer Use Cases: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13999?nav=1 - EGEE FTS Use Cases: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14005?nav=1 - SRMCopy Use Cases: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14039?nav=1 3) OGF19 Planning (30 min) - Draft session agendas 4) Wrap up (10 min) AOB My apologies for being a little unprepared; I just recovered from a gastro-intestinal viral infection which clawed me for almost a week. :-( Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFbWuxk0lMZTNKw4QRAn6nAJ9/au8be7kYAqLbB0BCTHpPaqMzkQCfZ6cW irbs4C4db+VzhQX8rlICsAE= =/0rt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Nobody wants to join the call?
by Michel Drescher 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, I am waiting on the call for anybody to join. For details, please see my previous mail today. Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFba/3k0lMZTNKw4QRAjX6AJ9P54mD7rxc0JllzdAZnY6J/NcDywCfSiLx //H6cMgY2xuVOA0wxSy+ilo= =ArOp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Srm copy use cases doc
by Alex Sim 28 Nov '06

28 Nov '06

Please find the attached srm copy use cases document. I don't have the doc creation priv on DMI web, and I'm sending here. --Arie and Alex

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Apologies
by Ravi Madduri 27 Nov '06

27 Nov '06

Hi I have a conflict this week for the DMI telecon. Apologies -- Ravi K Madduri The Globus Alliance | Argonne National Laboratory http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/~madduri

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NO CALL today
by Michel Drescher 22 Nov '06

22 Nov '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, as it is Thanksgiving week in the US, we won't have a call today. Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFZEIVk0lMZTNKw4QRAuGgAJsGaKjMqrvYH7b5Yw/mGN9Bqo65FQCfR7Tk CnWABZWglez1VJN/sEQ53dE= =02K2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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OGF-19
by Michel Drescher 17 Nov '06

17 Nov '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, I have requested 2 sessions, each of 90 minutes. The status and overview of other requests can be tracked here: http://www.ogf.org/gf/session_request/index.php?id=538 Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFXbByk0lMZTNKw4QRApkTAKCM/H5ISQgtgSyomh0xU8J3eR+CsgCeOLW9 N4pFHkG7yk1+brQSj66dRmQ= =ke51 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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OGF-19 session constraints
by Michel Drescher 15 Nov '06

15 Nov '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, As per this week Friday, we need to submit session requests. To hopefully suit all our needs, I need the constraints from everybody who wishes or plans to attend the OGSA-DMI sessions at OGF. The plan is to request two back-to-back sessions, so two times 90 minutes. Please send me by PRIVATE E-MAIL your constraints so that I can work them into our requests. We can give constraints as - - avoid clash with Areas (e.g. Standards-Architecture) - - avoid clash with groups (e.g. ogsa-wg, gin-cg) - - avoid certain times (e.g. Monday morning) - - prefer certain times (e.g. Tuesday afternoon) Please send me a mail in any case, even if you have no constraints, or intend to call in by phone, as we can request a phone bridge. I will submit the requests by Friday 22 November 12:00 UTC so please send me your constraints in time! Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFW1yXk0lMZTNKw4QRAm7hAKCh1DJCGOA0XUhLHurrBQvY/Mp9fwCdEYyE lP73T1BgGJlPilxP2HU5luM= =/BXf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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IMPORTANT: New Phone conference time slot
by Michel Drescher 15 Nov '06

15 Nov '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, as per request the phone conference time slot has changed. The new time slot is now Wednesdays, 16:00 UTC Access phone numbers and participant passscode remain the same. Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFW1Xsk0lMZTNKw4QRAjo0AKC1hNm19aG05sYmbIxRhs9Etgo//QCgy23e NaLmRSsJav/CtzvaUkXfriI= =Is4j -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Minutes of Nov 15 call
by Michel Drescher 15 Nov '06

15 Nov '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, the minutes of the November 15 call are on GridForge: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14017?nav=1 For convenience, I attached them to this mail. Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFW1WVk0lMZTNKw4QRAuLGAKCF2ATqti9LQadht1KhTIwv7tcWjACeNcFC ghxV+YFCCmeQzxV2DS2QCYI= =Bf8/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- OGSA-DMI telecon minutes ======================== 15 November 2006 Participants ============ Allen Luniewski, IBM Michel Drescher, Fujitsu Apologies: ---------- Ravi Madduri, ANL Paolo Badino, CERN Gavin Mccance, CERN Alex Sim, LBL James Casey, CERN Minutes: Michel Drescher 1) Early discussion =================== - Telecon minutes approval -- Mintes of 18 Oct approved with minor changes. -- Mintes of 25 Oct approved. -- Mintes of 1 Nov approved. -- Mintes of 8 Oct approved. 2) Action Items =============== - AI-10.11.a: DONE - AI-10.11.b: DONE - AI-10.11.c: No progress - AI-10.11.d: No progress - AI-10.18.a: DONE - AI-10.18.b: DONE 3) Management ============= - New conference time slot -- 8 am Pacific time -- Allen would be about 10 minutes late -- Would need to schedule "boring management stuff" to the beginning to suit people on the US west coast -- Calls from 22 November on will be scheduled for 4 pm UTC. - Map Action Items on GridForge -- Using it that way to track Action Items -- Not really an issue at the moment -- AI in the meeting agenda is sufficient at the moment -- Highly depends on the participant's GridForge usage -- The group reached consensus to not use GridForge Tasks to map Action Items. - Document format on GridForge: -- PDF is fine for stable or final documents -- The current reality is that MS Office documents are the de facto standard to create and edit documents -- Alternative solutions seem to be used by a minor fraction of OGF participants anyway -- The experience of the phone conf participants shows that no other WG so far challenged the MS Office document format for editable documents. -- The group reaches consensus that editable documents must be put on GridForge in MS Office document format. -- Meeting minutes should be nothing else than ASCII. 4) Data Movement Interface Use Cases ==================================== - The discussion has been postponed for broader participation. 5) OGF-19 sessions ================== - We need to submit session requests by the end of this week friday - The sessions are 90 minutes each - Half a day for OGSA-DMI is sufficient - We will request two sessions - Each prospect OGF-19 participant for OGSA-DMI should sent Michel a personal mail list of constraints for clashes with other WG sessions or else. - Allan Luniewski's constraints: -- avoid conflict with OGSA-Data - Michel Drescher's constraints: -- avoid conflict with JSDL -- avoid conflict with OGSA WG -- avoid conflict with OGSA-ByteIO - Draft agenda: -- Functional specification -- Use Cases document 6) Wrap up ========== - Date of next meeting -- 22 November 2006 16:00 UTC -- Note: That week is US Thanksgiving holiday week! Outstanding Action Items: ------------------------ AI-10.11.c: Ravi to write a data transfer use case collection for RFT AI-10.11.d: Alex to write a data transfer use case collection for SRM Copy

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Proposed Agenda for 15/11/06 call
by Michel Drescher 15 Nov '06

15 Nov '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear OGSA-DMI participants, this is the proposed agenda for the upcoming OGSA-DMI telecon on Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 17:00 to 18:00 UTC. For local timezone translations, please visit http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=01&month=11&year=2… The dial-in numbers are: UK: +44 (0) 207 9783 410 US: +1 718 354 1177 (East Coast) +1 408 961 6567 (West Coast) JP: +81 (0) 335 708 280 More numbers may be added upon request. Participant passcode is: 2051278 Dear OGSA-DMI participants, this is the proposed agenda for the upcoming OGSA-DMI telecon on Wed, Nov 8, 2006 at 17:00 to 18:00 UTC. For local time-zone translations, please visit http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=08&month=11&year=2… **ATTENTION** Please check particularly for accurate time in your time-zone as most countries on this world have recently changed back to winter time! The dial-in numbers are: UK: +44 (0) 207 9783 410 US: +1 718 354 1177 (East Coast) +1 408 961 6567 (West Coast) JP: +81 (0) 335 708 280 More numbers may be added upon request. Participant passcode is: 2051278 AGENDA ====== 1) Early discussion (5 min) - Note taker assignment - Roll call - Telecon minutes approvals -- 18 Oct 2006: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13956?nav=1 -- 25 Oct 2006: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13971?nav=1 -- 01 Nov 2006: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13993?nav=1 -- 08 Nov 2006: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14003?nav=1 - Agenda bashing 2) Action Item Review (10 min) AI-10.11.a: Michel to write a data transfer use case collection for UNICORE AI-10.11.b: Gavin/Paolo to write a data transfer use case collection for FTS AI-10.11.c: Ravi to write a data transfer use case collection for RFT AI-10.11.d: Alex to write a data transfer use case collection for SRM Copy AI-10.18.a: Michel to contact Andreas to ask how to configure a Google calendar. AI-10.18.b: Ravi to undertake necessary steps to get a public Google calendar. 3) Management (10 min) - New phone conference time slot - Map Action Items to Tasks on GridForge? -- Ravi and Michel to give quick experience report -- If using them, which elements and features are necessary? - Published document format on Gridforge? -- Application and OS neutral document formats? -- PDF for finished documents? -- ASCII/ANSI documents for telecon minutes? -- What about documents in flux with more than one author? 4) Data Movement Interface Use Cases (20 min) - AI to all: Get familiar with the OGSA glossary: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc12777?nav=1 - Replication -- How to handle? -- Is it in scope? -- Is it "a problem" of source and sink? - Resource identifiers - SURLs? - RNS? http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc8272?nav=1 - File names? - Discussions 5) OGF-19 sessions (10 min) - how many sessions do we want to have at OGF 19? - Who will attend? - What shall be the agenda? - **IMPORTANT** Session request deadline is 17 November 2006!! - I propose to have two sessions back-to-back (if possible) dedicated to concrete group work (e.g. document hacking) 6) Wrap up (5 min) AOB - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFWvAWk0lMZTNKw4QRAguNAJ9Z8JEy1T3dQDqJftmbOKZZSInLHACggIC/ DKDAhzlcH1OBcplmy6gw4x0= =Ybt+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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