October 2006 - ogsa-dmi-wg

Telecon minutes
by Michel Drescher 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ... uploaded for yesterday's call on Gridforge: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13971?nav=1 In short, the call has been cancelled as we had no quorum with only three participants. Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFQIrkk0lMZTNKw4QRAr26AKCHrJBkkb9Yi7RitgraKyVHb/pVMgCg2F8g vlwynzIQrSLg1yOsP5jvTQk= =DPtm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Proposed Agenda
by Michel Drescher 25 Oct '06

25 Oct '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear OGSA-DMI participants, this is the proposed agenda for the upcoming OGSA-DMI telecon on 25/10/06 at 17:00 to 18:00 UTC. For local timezone translations, please visit http://tinyurl.com/yc2ua9 The dial-in numbers are: UK: +44 (0) 207 9783 410 US: +1 718 354 1177 (East Coast) +1 408 961 6567 (West Coast) JP: +81 (0) 335 708 280 More numbers may be added upon request. Participant passcode is: 2051278 AGENDA ====== 1) Early discussion (5 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approvals Agenda bashing 2) Action Item Review (10 min) AI-10.11.a: Michel to write a data transfer use case collection for UNICORE AI-10.11.b: Gavin/Paolo to write a data transfer use case collection for FTS AI-10.11.c: Ravi to write a data transfer use case collection for RFT AI-10.11.d: Alex to write a data transfer use case collection for SRM Copy AI-10.18.a: Michel to contact Andreas to ask how to configure a Google calendar. AI-10.18.b: Ravi to undertake necessary steps to get a public Google calendar. 3) Management (10 min) Map Action Items to Tasks on GridForge? 10) Wrap up (5 min) AOB - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFPzLYk0lMZTNKw4QRAoG7AKCYEm0USTgPz3q+cw3vObKtvDh7EwCgsRwo pyMoebLQCFzUdDEtjV9tsRk= =/XCN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Google calendar
by Michel Drescher 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, we are happy to announce the set up of a shared Google calendar for the OGSA-DMI working group. You can integrate it in your Google calendar, or your local computer's calendar tool using one of the following links: (iCal) http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/j7klc5hfs5ne0gape8hdmkepus@group.calend… (http) http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=j7klc5hfs5ne0gape8hdmkepus%40group… Later, I will integrate our calendar into GridForge. Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFN6pUk0lMZTNKw4QRAmLtAKCL2TtULxT7i0V5rYsbFy6LNwa/8gCfV17O w5JA6c5d/tKbe0H84lBiBJU= =drUS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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GridForge membership
by Michel Drescher 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, I granted me some more playtime on GridForge. :-) I am thinking about using the Task feature on GridForge to manage and track assignments like action items. I think the great benefit is that you can express dependencies, associate documents, trackers, file releases etc -- my impression is that on GridForge you can associate everything with everything. Moreover, people can manage the tasks that are assigned to them, report progress etc. Also, GridForge offers integrated automation and management, i.e. if you log in on GridForge, you see a list of stuff you need to do that you signed up for, and a lot more. So I would like to remind everybody on the mailing list (and everybody ho participated the phone calls) to get a GridForge membership if not done already, and join the OGSA-DMI group! Yes, the poison pill is that this way you can get assigned to tasks and tracker artifacts. ;-) But the good news is that this would make group management way easier -- and possibly frees up time on the phone calls for action item reviews (e.g. in OGSA, action item review can take up to 30 minutes in one call...) Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFN1C4k0lMZTNKw4QRApkEAJ9qUGuvRo9vc0DV23+02q4kcWJSDQCeP3Em NySE3n14clk+eNa9eiHpMW0= =qBXQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Minutes for 2006-10-18 meeting
by Paul Millar 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

Hi, The first draft of the minutes are below. Apologies for getting people's names wrong, missing out important details, etc. Please email corrections to me. Cheers, Paul. --- OGSA-DMI meeting 2006-10-18 17:00--18:00 UTC (v0.1) Present: ------- Michel Drescher, Fujitsu-Europe (chair) Allen Luniewski, IBM Ravi Madduri, ANL Paul Millar, University of Glasgow (minutes) Apologies: --------- Gavin McCance, CERN. Agenda: ------ 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approvals 11 Oct: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13943?nav=1 Agenda bashing 2) Action Item review (10 min) List of open action items see below 3) Group management (15 min) Calendar sharing Screen sharing File and document management Releases, packages and associated relationships in Gridforge 4) Wrap up (10 min) AOB 1) Early discussion: ------------------- Note taker: as above. Roll call: as above. Minutes from previous meeting: approved. Agenda bashing: no changes suggested. 2) Action Item review: --------------------- AI-10.11.a,b and d: no change AI-10.11.c: Ravi to write a data transfer use case collection for RFT Some progress was reported. AI-10.11.e: Michel to get Ravi up to speed on necessary chair issues Michel has sent an email to Ravi with relevant information. Ravi is happy with this. ACTION CLOSED. 3) Group Management: ------------------- Calendar sharing: Proposal: to set up a new Google email account and use that account to have a public read-only Google calendar. Any software that can synchronise against ical format should work. Software known to work includes Thunderbird, Outlook, ... This already works for other groups; Andreas knows more. Proposal accepted. NEW AI-10.18.a: on Michel: contact Andreas to ask how to configure a Google calendar. NEW AI-10.18.b: on Ravi: undertake necessary steps to get a public Google calendar. Screen sharing: There is a public service at glance.net: http://www.glance.net/ This service does not support Mac OS-X. There was no clear statement whether they would support Macs in the (near) future. Another alternative (Centra) was mentioned: http://www.saba.com/centra-saba/ The consensus view was this is currently a low-priority item, but might be useful in the future. Document storage: Proposal: that we make document releases (suitably packaged) and that these release are made available using the "file release" section of GridForge. Noted that the file-release section in GridForge is under utilised. There are lots of documents in OGSA. If someone doesn't have an explicit reference to the document they are interested in, it is easy to get lost. A further advantage of making documents available through file releases is that the issue tracker can be used against document releases. Question: does the document exist in multiple locations? We would need to be careful that released documents don't change over time. There is a feature for locking releases. Also, there is the concept of a "document version" which auto-increments. There is also a "latest document". Normally, this updates automatically to match the document with the greatest document version but this behaviour is adjustable. The consensus was to use file releases and issue tracker to make documents available and to track issues with documents. 4) Wrap up: ---------- AOB: none DTNM: 2006-10-25 17:00--18:00 UTC Other timezones are available at http://tinyurl.com/y5ou6u Outstanding Action Items: ------------------------ AI-10.11.a: Michel to write a data transfer use case collection for UNICORE AI-10.11.b: Gavin/Paolo to write a data transfer use case collection for FTS AI-10.11.c: Ravi to write a data transfer use case collection for RFT AI-10.11.d: Alex to write a data transfer use case collection for SRM Copy AI-10.11.e: Michel to get Ravi up to speed on necessary chair issues AI-10.18.a: Michel to contact Andreas to ask how to configure a Google calendar. AI-10.18.b: Ravi to undertake necessary steps to get a public Google calendar.

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Data Transfer Chapter from OGSA Data Architecture Document
by Allen Luniewski 18 Oct '06

18 Oct '06

The OGSA Data Architecture WG held a F2F at the end of August. At that time, we worked with Michel to clarify what the data architecture calls out in the area of data transfer. We would like to share what the architecture document now says about data transfer. This extract is below. Your feedback will be most appreciated. Allen Luniewski co-chair OGSA Data Architecture WG

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Screen sharing tools.
by Paul Millar 18 Oct '06

18 Oct '06

Hi all, What seems to be a fairly comprehensive comparison of screen-sharing tools is available here: http://www.kolabora.com/news/2006/10/05/screen_sharing_tools_and_technology… Cheers, Paul.

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Re: [ogsa-dmi-wg] Document versions on GridForge
by Michel Drescher 18 Oct '06

18 Oct '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, the telecon minutes for last week are actually a good example, too: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13943?nav=1 The first version does not include Ravi as a participant, but the second version does. Regarding File Releases, I was probably too optimistic, or the Gridforge team has disabled some functionality. :-( I can associate documents with a release, but to actually have them included in the release I must manually upload the document from my computer, which is tedious but manageable. I will ask the Gridforge team whether there is a solution for this. Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFNmipk0lMZTNKw4QRApIzAKCpRbJORNHKG75nfKzymz4i+ckXSQCfetWa Cy2+4TL3k9zt49XqXaOhaf0= =YiV8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Proposed Agenda for Wednesday 18 October
by Michel Drescher 18 Oct '06

18 Oct '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [Sorry for being late on this one! Michel] Dear OGSA-DMI participants, this is the proposed agenda for the upcoming OGSA-DMI telecon on 18 October at 17:00 to 18:00 UTC. For local timezone translations, please visit http://tinyurl.com/yjtev2 The dial-in numbers are: UK: +44 (0) 207 9783 410 US: +1 718 354 1177 (East Coast) +1 408 961 6567 (West Coast) JP: +81 (0) 335 708 280 More numbers may be added upon request. Participant passcode is: 2051278 AGENDA ====== 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approvals 11 Oct: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13943?nav=1 Agenda bashing 2) Action Item review (10 min) List of open action items see below 3) Group management (15 min) Calendar sharing Screen sharing File and document management Releases, packages and associated relationships in Gridforge 4) Wrap up (10 min) AOB OPEN ACTION ITEMS ================= AI-1011a: Michel to write a data transfer use case collection for UNICORE AI-1011b: Gavin/Paolo to write a data transfer use case collection for FTS AI-1011c: Ravi to write a data transfer use case collection for RFT AI-1011d: Alex to write a data transfer use case collection for SRM Copy AI-1011e: Michel to get Ravi up to speed on necessary chair issues - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFNfzfk0lMZTNKw4QRAiMyAKCpsSS23uiMWrAwy4+XNCyjJ9MqdACgoHNt 72DE1agMTx/KR4lJL81y6Ds= =rNpJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Oct 11 meeting minutes
by Michel Drescher 11 Oct '06

11 Oct '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, the minutes are on gridforge: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13943?nav=1 Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFLTqZk0lMZTNKw4QRAvQMAKDUkIAKTeboNMfaZbUsiyKHK94XGACfQug1 acKQ+FjoJ8IfwvPlJpZA25k= =7iG6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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