Marvin's message bounced. _____ From: Marvin Theimer [mailto:theimer@microsoft.com] Sent: 05 May 2006 16:15 To: Dave Berry; ogsa-wg@ggf.org; dmis-bof@ggf.org; ogsa-d-wg@gridforum.org Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] Initial draft of HPC profile working group charter Hi; You are right that most of the discussion so far has been about job submission and not about the related need to get data from client to execution subsystem(s) and back again. But since the goal of the group is to define a profile covering the end-to-end vertical use cases, I know that we will need to tackle the topic of data staging at some point. As with JSDL and BES's relation to the job submission parts of the work, I'm hoping we will be able to substantially leverage other existing work, such as that of the data DMIS groups, as appropriate. I'll make that more explicit in the next revision of the draft charter. Thanks for pointing this matter out, Marvin. _____ From: Dave Berry [mailto:daveb@nesc.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 7:14 AM To: Marvin Theimer; ogsa-wg@ggf.org; dmis-bof@ggf.org; ogsa-d-wg@gridforum.org Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] Initial draft of HPC profile working group charter Hi, All the discussion I've seen about this profile so far has focussed on specifying and submitting jobs, but the proposed charter says that this is only one of two areas of interest; the other being data staging. The immediate question is what link will this profile work have to the Data Movement Interface Specification group? Will the profile refer to the DMIS spec in the same way that it will refer to JSDL and BES? (Of course, JSDL also covers data staging to some extent). Work is also continuing on the data aspects of the OGSA architecture, in the OGSA Data WG. I would encourage the HPC profile group to engage with the OGSA Data group and the DMIS group concerning how to fit data staging into the overall architecture. Unfortunately I won't be in Tokyo next week but it would be useful if members of these groups could get together there to agree a working relationship. Best wishes, Dave. _____ From: owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Marvin Theimer Sent: 05 May 2006 01:48 To: ogsa-wg@ggf.org Subject: [ogsa-wg] Initial draft of HPC profile working group charter Hi; Enclosed is an initial draft of the OGSA HPC profile working group charter. This will be brought up for discussion at the HPC profile BoF at the upcoming GGF17 conferenece in Tokyo. In the mean time, please feel free to comment on the draft via email to this mailing list. Thanks, Marvin.