October 2005 - ogsa-d-wg

New version of ByteIO Specifications
by neil p chue hong 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

I have uploaded new versions of the ByteIO Specification Document https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/byteio-wg/document/draft-byteio-rec-doc -v1-1/en/4 and the ByteIO WSRF Basic Profile Rendering Document https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/byteio-wg/document/draft-byteio-wsrf-re ndering-doc-v1-1/en/4 These address the comments from the session at GGF15 as well as issues raised on the telcon. I intend to submit these to the GGF Editor for public review next week. cheers, neil -- Neil P Chue Hong | T: [+44] (0)131 650 5957 Project Manager, EPCC | F: [+44] (0)131 650 6555 Rm 2409, JCMB, Mayfield Rd. | E: N.ChueHong(a)epcc.ed.ac.uk Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK | W: http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk BT MeetMe: http://tinyurl.com/8mwhd - Code: 14712935# "A film is like a battleground. It's love, hate, action, violence, death - in a word, emotion." - Sam Fuller

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Telcon Agenda, 2nd November - Federation section review
by Dave Berry 27 Oct '05

27 Oct '05

Dear All, The next teleconference of the OGSA Data Architecture working group will be held on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2005 at the usual time of 8:00am Pacific / 11:00am Eastern / 4:00pm UK / 5:00pm Europe. In this telcon we will review the Federation section and associated scenarios. Please read this section and scenarios and bring issues to the call. As a reminder, here is the teleconference information: UK dialin: 0845 245 0224 US dialin: 1 866 838 0046 Intl dialin: +44 1452 542309 Passcode: 369786 Agenda for the November 2nd teleconference: 1) Early discussion (5 minutes) Note taker assignment Roll call Minutes approval from September 28th teleconference (http://tinyurl.com/c8ruk) Agenda bashing 2) Action report (5 minutes) - Ann to check the Access section for suitability for file replication. - Mario to pass write token to Allen by end of week and make text available for comment. - Dave to put reports from GGF on GridForge. - Peter to rewrite storage management section to reflect changes from GSM-WG - Allen to write text about policy - Allen to write an overview section on security - Section authors to add security notes to their sections, once the overview is ready. - Dave to revamp section 3 of the architecture document - Everyone to talk with your contacts to get more participation in this WG. - Allen/Dave to contact David Martin & Hiro Kishimoto to get reviewers & expert participation (after internal reviews). 3) Progess update (5 minutes) Update on document writing, plans for telcons and F2F. 4) Review of federation section and associated scenarios (40 minutes) Issues that we should consider include, but are not limited to: - Matching scenarios against service descriptions - Level of detail - Security implications - Consistency with other sections - Identify where work is needed on metadata or on naming conventions - Graceful degradation 5) Wrap up (5 minutes) Next meetings: Nov 9th: Replication Nov 16th: Storage Dave Berry Research Manager, National e-Science Centre 15 South College St., Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 6514039

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FW: [gfs-wg] GFS Architecture Workbook Ver1 - Public comment (was: FW: [wg-all] One new documents now in public comment)
by Dave Berry 24 Oct '05

24 Oct '05

FYI. -----Original Message----- From: owner-gfs-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-gfs-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Arun swaran Jagatheesan Sent: 24 October 2005 22:56 To: Grid File System WG Cc: Gregory Newby; David E Martin Subject: [gfs-wg] GFS Architecture Workbook Ver1 - Public comment (was: FW: [wg-all] One new documents now in public comment) The initial version of the Grid File System Architecture Design Workbook focusing on the high level definition of the problem, terminology and requirements of GFS is going through a public review/comment process. This was compiled based on all our discussions so far and will grow based on future discussions. Link: http://www.ggf.org/ggf_docs_public.htm (towards the end of the page) Any suggestions/comments on this version are welcome. Arun ~~~~~~~~~ Dream; because, dreams lead to thoughts; thoughts lead to action, and action leads to achievement. Arun swaran Jagatheesan http://www.sdsc.edu/~arun/ San Diego Supercomputer Center. (858)822.5452 -----Original Message----- From: owner-wg-all(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-wg-all@ggf.org]On Behalf Of Gregory Newby Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 2:20 PM To: All WG/RG Members Subject: [wg-all] One new documents now in public comment One new informational track document has entered public comment, in addition to the fifteen that are already in public comment. Please visit this link to read the documents, view public comments, and make public comments. Public comments are a very important part of the standards document process, and your comments are valuable to authors in improving their documents. Link: http://www.ggf.org/ggf_docs_public.htm This informational track document is: Grid File System Architecture Design Workbook (v1) Thanks! -- Greg Newby, GGF Editor

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Telcon Agenda, 26th October - Access section review
by Dave Berry 23 Oct '05

23 Oct '05

Dear All, The next teleconference of the OGSA Data Architecture working group will be held on Wednesday, October 26th, 2005 at the usual time of 8:00am Pacific / 11:00am Eastern / 4:00pm UK / 5:00pm Europe. In this telcon we will review the Access section and associated scenarios. Please read this section and bring issues to the call. As a reminder, here is the teleconference information: UK dialin: 0845 245 0224 US dialin: 1 866 838 0046 Intl dialin: +44 1452 542309 Passcode: 369786 Agenda for the October 26th teleconference: 1) Early discussion (5 minutes) Note taker assignment Roll call Minutes approval from September 28th teleconference (http://tinyurl.com/as8qp) Agenda bashing 2) Action report (5 minutes) - Dave to consult with Abdeslem over where data discovery belongs in the OGSA 1.5 document. - Dave to mail the list with issues for section reviews. - Dave to add "graceful degradation" to the cross-cutting issues to consider in the architecture document. - Dave to put reports from GGF on GridForge. - Peter to rewrite storage management section to reflect changes from GSM-WG - Allen to write text about policy - Allen to write an overview section on security - Section authors to add security notes to their sections, once the overview is ready. - Dave to revamp section 3 of the architecture document - Everyone to talk with your contacts to get more participation in this WG. - Allen/Dave to contact David Martin & Hiro Kishimoto to get reviewers & expert participation (after internal reviews). 3) Planning update (5 minutes) Update on plans for telcon, F2F and document writing 4) Review of access section and assoicated scenarios (40 minutes) Issues that we should consider include, but are not limited to: - Matching scenarios against service descriptions - Level of detail - Security implications - Consistency with other sections - Identify where work is needed on metadata or on naming conventions - Graceful degradation 5) Wrap up (5 minutes) Next meetings: Nov 2nd: Federation Nov 9th: Replication Nov 16th: Storage Dave Berry Research Manager, National e-Science Centre 15 South College St., Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 6514039

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RE: [ogsa-d-wg] OGSA 1.5 update for Thursday's telcon
by Dave Berry 23 Oct '05

23 Oct '05

Dear all, I have further updated the OGSA 1.5 document to address the comments discussed on Thursday's telcon (see attachment). This is the version I have sent to Andreas (the editor). Further discussion about this document will take place on the Monday OGSA calls. One of the issues we discussed on Thursday was whether to keep separate sections on "architectural considerations" and "properties". I've renamed "architectural considerations" to "legacy considerations", because this better describes its content - I'm happy to consider better titles for this section. I've also reworded the introductions of both sections, and moved "transformations" back to the "functionality" section. Another issue we discussed was the relationship between metadata catalogues, data discovery, and the OGSA information services. I've attempted to clarify these by saying that OGSA information services provide the framework for data discovery, but that data discovery also requires languages or ontologies for describing data. For some use cases, we may want metadata catalogues with more limited functionality, e.g. just looking up the metadata associated with a particular abstract name. Dave. -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-d-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-d-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Berry Sent: 18 October 2005 18:39 To: ogsa-d-wg(a)gridforum.org Subject: [ogsa-d-wg] OGSA 1.5 update for Thursday's telcon Dear all, I attach a version of the overall OGSA document with changes to the sections on data services (sections 2.6 and 3.5). These are intended to be contributions to a revised release of the OGSA document, called OGSA 1.5. We will discuss this on Thursday's OGSA-D telcon. In the attached version I have used tracked changes to give an indication of what has changed. There are also several comments regarding open issues. Dave Berry Research Manager, National e-Science Centre 15 South College St., Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 6514039

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Upcoming section reviews
by Dave Berry 21 Oct '05

21 Oct '05

Dear all, In the next four OGSA-D telcons, we will be reviewing sections of the architecture document and their associated scenarios: Oct 26th: Access Nov 2nd: Federation Nov 9th: Replication Nov 16th: Storage Please read the text beforehand, so that we can discuss issues on the calls. Issues that we should consider include, but are not limited to: - Matching scenarios against service descriptions - Level of detail - Security implications - Consistency with other sections - Identify where work is needed on metadata or on naming conventions Best wishes, Dave Berry Research Manager, National e-Science Centre 15 South College St., Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 6514039

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OGSA 1.5 update for Thursday's telcon
by Dave Berry 18 Oct '05

18 Oct '05

Dear all, I attach a version of the overall OGSA document with changes to the sections on data services (sections 2.6 and 3.5). These are intended to be contributions to a revised release of the OGSA document, called OGSA 1.5. We will discuss this on Thursday's OGSA-D telcon. In the attached version I have used tracked changes to give an indication of what has changed. There are also several comments regarding open issues. Dave Berry Research Manager, National e-Science Centre 15 South College St., Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 6514039

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[acs-wg] [ogsa-d-wg] OGSA-D-WG description for ACS specification:
by Michael Behrens 15 Oct '05

15 Oct '05

This is being posted to the ACS and OGSA-D group for inter-group communication purposes. ACS needs to be aware of data services as they will impact the ACS specification at some point in time. The ACS specification has a non-normative section for describing relationships with other groups/activities. This is the proposed paragraph for your review - what do you think? "The OGSA Data Working Group defines the data services which provide for distribution of data on the grid. ACS can utilize protocols being specified such as Byte-IO, GridFTP, and possibly Replication. ACS provides an extension point for protocols which allow implementations to specify which protocols are supported. The ACS team has reviewed their briefings and draft documents with interest. Interaction with the OGSA Data Working group is expected to increase during the development of the next version of this specification." -- Michael Behrens R2AD, LLC (571) 594-3008 (cell) *new* (703) 714-0442 (land)

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RE: [acs-wg] [ogsa-d-wg] OGSA-D-WG description for ACS specification:
by Ziu, Peter 14 Oct '05

14 Oct '05

Looks very good Mike, we should include it after dialog from ogsa-d. Perhaps we could be more specific about replication after this dialog? Pete. -----Original Message----- From: owner-acs-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-acs-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Michael Behrens Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:20 PM To: acs-wg(a)ggf.org; ogsa-d-wg(a)ggf.org Subject: [acs-wg] [ogsa-d-wg] OGSA-D-WG description for ACS specification: This is being posted to the ACS and OGSA-D group for inter-group communication purposes. ACS needs to be aware of data services as they will impact the ACS specification at some point in time. The ACS specification has a non-normative section for describing relationships with other groups/activities. This is the proposed paragraph for your review - what do you think? "The OGSA Data Working Group defines the data services which provide for distribution of data on the grid. ACS can utilize protocols being specified such as Byte-IO, GridFTP, and possibly Replication. ACS provides an extension point for protocols which allow implementations to specify which protocols are supported. The ACS team has reviewed their briefings and draft documents with interest. Interaction with the OGSA Data Working group is expected to increase during the development of the next version of this specification." -- Michael Behrens R2AD, LLC (571) 594-3008 (cell) *new* (703) 714-0442 (land)

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FW: Data Management Interface Standardization BOF working list is up
by Allen Luniewski 13 Oct '05

13 Oct '05

Bill Allcock's note bounced... Allen ----- Forwarded by Allen Luniewski/Almaden/IBM on 10/13/2005 09:35 AM ----- To: dmis-bof(a)ggf.org, gridftp-wg(a)ggf.org, gsm-wg(a)ggf.org, ogsa-d-wg(a)ggf.org Subject: Data Management Interface Standardization BOF working list is up This is the last time I will SPAM the other lists. If you wish to subscribe, please send mail to majordomo(a)ggf.org with subscribe dmis-bof END in the body. On Monday, I will send the first draft of the charter out to the dmis-bof list for comment. Please subscribe by then if you are interested. If we become an officially chartered WG, we will get a new list dmis-wg. Bill -- William E. Allcock Argonne National Laboratory Bldg 221, Office C-115A 9700 South Cass Ave Argonne, IL 60439-4844 Office Phone: +1-630-252-7573 Office Fax: +1-630-252-1997 Cell Phone: +1-630-854-2842

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