embedding WS-Name in JSDL doc
As promised on the call, here's a trivial BES spec. feature
suggestion, in psuedo-schema format:
bes:ActivityName..WS-Name content..
which could be embedded in the JSDL doc in the JobIdentification
section for correlation purposes when retrieving JSDL docs from the
BES service:
jsdl:JobDefinition
jsdl:JobDescription
All, Although I agree that what Karl has shown is valid in terms of the JSDL schema I feel it somewhat goes against the core emphasis of what JSDL sets out to achieve. JSDL set out to define a template job description, embedding instance information within the document therefore goes against the ideal. For instance if a user requests a JSDL document back from a BES Service and then wishes to submit the JSDL to another BES service it would need to strip this element out before proceeding. If I may go back to the situation and ask why the ActivityName needs to be embedded in the JSDL? From what I can see it is to deal with the fact that the requester may wish to receive back a number of JSDL documents. Thus the requirement is to associate with each JSDL document the ActivityName for it. This tag however need not be part of the JSDL document itself. For example using the following would be an alternative (and in my view) a cleaner solution. bes:JSDLInstance bes:ActivityName ... WS-Name content ... jsdl:JobDefinition ... steve.. Karl Czajkowski wrote:
As promised on the call, here's a trivial BES spec. feature suggestion, in psuedo-schema format:
bes:ActivityName..WS-Name content..
which could be embedded in the JSDL doc in the JobIdentification section for correlation purposes when retrieving JSDL docs from the BES service:
jsdl:JobDefinition jsdl:JobDescription
bes:ActivityName..WS-Name content.. </JobIdentification> ... this works because JobIdentification allows zero or more xsd:any##other/ in its schema, e.g. any element that is defined in a namespace other than JSDL's namespace.
karl
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+1 On 21 Jul 2005, at 17:26, A S McGough wrote:
All,
Although I agree that what Karl has shown is valid in terms of the JSDL schema I feel it somewhat goes against the core emphasis of what JSDL sets out to achieve. JSDL set out to define a template job description, embedding instance information within the document therefore goes against the ideal. For instance if a user requests a JSDL document back from a BES Service and then wishes to submit the JSDL to another BES service it would need to strip this element out before proceeding.
If I may go back to the situation and ask why the ActivityName needs to be embedded in the JSDL? From what I can see it is to deal with the fact that the requester may wish to receive back a number of JSDL documents. Thus the requirement is to associate with each JSDL document the ActivityName for it. This tag however need not be part of the JSDL document itself. For example using the following would be an alternative (and in my view) a cleaner solution.
bes:JSDLInstance bes:ActivityName ... WS-Name content ... jsdl:JobDefinition ...
steve..
Karl Czajkowski wrote:
As promised on the call, here's a trivial BES spec. feature suggestion, in psuedo-schema format:
bes:ActivityName..WS-Name content..
which could be embedded in the JSDL doc in the JobIdentification section for correlation purposes when retrieving JSDL docs from the BES service:
jsdl:JobDefinition jsdl:JobDescription
bes:ActivityName..WS-Name content.. </JobIdentification> ... this works because JobIdentification allows zero or more xsd:any##other/ in its schema, e.g. any element that is defined in a namespace other than JSDL's namespace.
karl
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+2
On 21/7/05 09:26, "A S McGough"
All,
Although I agree that what Karl has shown is valid in terms of the JSDL schema I feel it somewhat goes against the core emphasis of what JSDL sets out to achieve. JSDL set out to define a template job description, embedding instance information within the document therefore goes against the ideal. For instance if a user requests a JSDL document back from a BES Service and then wishes to submit the JSDL to another BES service it would need to strip this element out before proceeding.
If I may go back to the situation and ask why the ActivityName needs to be embedded in the JSDL? From what I can see it is to deal with the fact that the requester may wish to receive back a number of JSDL documents. Thus the requirement is to associate with each JSDL document the ActivityName for it. This tag however need not be part of the JSDL document itself. For example using the following would be an alternative (and in my view) a cleaner solution.
bes:JSDLInstance bes:ActivityName ... WS-Name content ... jsdl:JobDefinition ...
steve..
Karl Czajkowski wrote:
As promised on the call, here's a trivial BES spec. feature suggestion, in psuedo-schema format:
bes:ActivityName..WS-Name content..
which could be embedded in the JSDL doc in the JobIdentification section for correlation purposes when retrieving JSDL docs from the BES service:
jsdl:JobDefinition jsdl:JobDescription
bes:ActivityName..WS-Name content.. </JobIdentification> ... this works because JobIdentification allows zero or more xsd:any##other/ in its schema, e.g. any element that is defined in a namespace other than JSDL's namespace.
karl
+3 But also please file this as a Public Comment on the JSDL list. It is probably a good idea for JSDL to provide a standard place to hook a WS-Name. See http://www.ggf.org/ggf_docs_public.htm On 21 Jul 2005, at 16:22, Karl Czajkowski wrote:
As promised on the call, here's a trivial BES spec. feature suggestion, in psuedo-schema format:
bes:ActivityName..WS-Name content..
which could be embedded in the JSDL doc in the JobIdentification section for correlation purposes when retrieving JSDL docs from the BES service:
jsdl:JobDefinition jsdl:JobDescription
bes:ActivityName..WS-Name content.. </JobIdentification> ... this works because JobIdentification allows zero or more xsd:any##other/ in its schema, e.g. any element that is defined in a namespace other than JSDL's namespace.
karl
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