I’m usually one of the first to suggest removing non-normative text from a specification.  However, I don’t understand why an appendix of this nature is so objectionable.  Sure it could be a separate info document, but is it that horrific to have an appendix that describes extensions/utilizations of a standard information model for containers?

Tom

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From: ogsa-bes-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-bes-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Pulsipher_Darren@emc.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:53 PM
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I have not heard a dissenting vote yet. Anyone out there?

 

 


From: ogsa-bes-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-bes-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [OGSA-BES-WG] re-evaluate removal of container model from BES spec appendix

+1

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On 27/9/06 07:51, "Ian Foster" <foster@mcs.anl.gov> wrote:

I'd like to argue strongly against this. As I said earlier, I think this is good material and I don't have any objection to it being published as an OGSA informational document. I just don't think it belongs in a BES specification, which should contain the minimum information needed to specify BES.

Ian.

At 09:49 AM 9/27/2006 -0500, Ellen Stokes wrote:

Andrew,

Per our discussion at the OGSA F2F Sep 14, I'd like the workgroup to re-evaluate the decision to remove the (general) container model from the BES specification appendix.

The intent of this appendix is to provide the container model as an 'informational' appendix so it can be submitted to DMTF as concrete proposal for inclusion in the DMTF CIM and a context for why a container model is necessary.

The inclusion of the model in the BES spec does not imply that OGSA must implement this CIM container model to implement BES; it is merely an abstraction for a general container model where BES can provide context for the need and implementation of a specific container model.  If this point doesn't come across in the appendix text, I have no problem modifying the text.

I know the BES calls are generally scheduled for Thursdays; however, I am not available this Thursday Sep 28.
Let me know when this topic can be scheduled as part of BES workgroup call.

Ellen


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