Andrew, Per our discussion at the OGSA F2F Sep 14, I'd like the workgroup to re-evaluate the decision to remove the (general) container model from the BES specification appendix. The intent of this appendix is to provide the container model as an 'informational' appendix so it can be submitted to DMTF as concrete proposal for inclusion in the DMTF CIM and a context for why a container model is necessary. The inclusion of the model in the BES spec does not imply that OGSA must implement this CIM container model to implement BES; it is merely an abstraction for a general container model where BES can provide context for the need and implementation of a specific container model. If this point doesn't come across in the appendix text, I have no problem modifying the text. I know the BES calls are generally scheduled for Thursdays; however, I am not available this Thursday Sep 28. Let me know when this topic can be scheduled as part of BES workgroup call. Ellen Ellen Stokes STSM, Grid Computing TC Member, IBM Academy of Technology Austin, Texas tl 678 0552 outside +1 512 838 0552 stokese@us.ibm.com