September 2011 - ogsa-bes-wg

Re: [OGSA-BES-WG] [gin] REMINDER: PGI-OGSA-BES-JSDL Joint Session Today at 2pm in
by Andre Merzky 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Morris Riedel <m.riedel(a)fz-juelich.de> wrote: > > (a) > Focus: baby steps together - concept by concept (e.g. manual data-staging, pre-post processing, scalable-time, etc.), we should not try to standardize all requirements at once, there could be BES 1.1, BES1.2, BES1.3, etc. +1 > (c) > Next steps: experience tells us that we will not manage to achieve very much in the time available at the OGF event, also some progress will be made - but how we organize the next months: milestones, weekly phone calls, chairs?!, specification work with deadlines, etc. how about a F2F before next OGF? Cheers, Andre. -- Nothing is ever easy...

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Re: [OGSA-BES-WG] OGF OGSA-BES - Requirements for an improved Basic Execution Service
by Etienne URBAH 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

Andrew, Steven and all OGSA-BES stakeholders, I have finished written down a document named 'Requirements for an improved Basic Execution Service (BES)' and available at http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc16306 I will use this requirements document to propose improvements to the current specification of BES 1.0 described in GFD.108, as agreed at the OGSA-BES session at OGF32 in Salt Lake City on 17 July 2011. Thank you in advance for reading and criticizing my requirements document. Best regards. ----------------------------------------------------- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr ----------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 08/09/2011 12:51, Morris Riedel wrote: > Hi Etienne, > > thanks for your input. > > At the next OGF, we will have several PGI/BES/JSDL/GLUE2. > > We thus not only are able to clarify questions, but also will make a progress towards commonly agreed spec based on all of our inputs. > > Take care, > Morris > > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: ogsa-bes-wg-bounces(a)ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-bes-wg-bounces@ogf.org] Im Auftrag von Etienne URBAH >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. September 2011 19:33 >> An: Andrew GRIMSHAW; steven.newhouse(a)egi.eu; ogsa-bes-wg(a)ogf.org >> Cc: pgi-wg(a)ogf.org; edgi-na2(a)mail.edgi-project.eu; lodygens(a)lal.in2p3.fr >> Betreff: Re: [OGSA-BES-WG] OGF OGSA-BES - Requirements for an improved Basic Execution Service >> >> Andrew, Steven and all OGSA-BES stakeholders, >> >> At the OGSA-BES session at OGF32 in Salt Lake City on 17 July 2011, we >> had agreed to propose for the beginning of September 2011 improvements >> to the current specification of BES 1.0 described in GFD.108 >> >> But I am unable to define specifications before having a clear picture >> of requirements. >> >> Therefore, I have written down a document named 'Requirements for an >> improved Basic Execution Service (BES)' and available at >> http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc16306 >> >> This document is almost finished, with most chapters in a readable and >> consistent state. >> The only exception is the chapter about data management, which I hope to >> write down very soon. >> >> Thank you in advance for reading and criticizing this document. >> >> Best regards. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS >> Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France >> Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah >> Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr >> -----------------------------------------------------

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REMINDER: PGI-OGSA-BES-JSDL Joint Session Today at 2pm in
by Morris Riedel 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

All, after re-scheduling, we have the first of our sessions today [1]: Tuesday, September 20 2:00 pm - 3:30 pm PGI-OGSA-BES-JSDL Joint Session (90 mins) Andrew Grimshaw, Morris Riedel Location: Rhone 4 A high participation is appreciated especially since several of us have several parallel commitments in other sessions. Important will be three things (from my perspective): (a) Focus: baby steps together - concept by concept (e.g. manual data-staging, pre-post processing, scalable-time, etc.), we should not try to standardize all requirements at once, there could be BES 1.1, BES1.2, BES1.3, etc. (b) Working sessions: Skip introductions and general architecture discussions; focus on specification work concept by concept (XSD level?!) (c) Next steps: experience tells us that we will not manage to achieve very much in the time available at the OGF event, also some progress will be made - but how we organize the next months: milestones, weekly phone calls, chairs?!, specification work with deadlines, etc. Of course, I'm open to suggestions. Take care, Morris [1] http://www.ogf.org/gf/event_schedule/index.php?id=2392 ------------------------------------------------------------ Morris Riedel Deputy Division Leader Federated Systems and Data (FSD) Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/SharedDocs/Personen/IAS/JSC/EN/staff/riedel_m.html

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Fwd: EVO Booking : OGF preparation of PGI / BES / JSDL from Wed, 14 Sep 11 16:00 +0200 (CEST)
by Etienne URBAH 15 Sep '11

15 Sep '11

Philipp and all, Concerning the preparation of the PGI / BES / JSDL sessions at OGF 33 in Lyon next week : I booked an EVO teleconference named 'OGF preparation of PGI / BES / JSDL' for Wednesday 14 September 2011 at 16h CEST (14h UTC). BEWARE that EVO 2.8 fails on MS-Windows XP SP3 with Firefox 6.0.2 and Oracle Java 1.7.0, so that you may have to use EVO beta at http://evo.caltech.edu/evoBeta/ which I tested successfully. Access to the EVO teleconference will be provided at http://evo.caltech.edu/evoBeta/koala.jnlp?meeting=MsMiMI282BDMDe9l92Dt9s with password !!jsdlftw Thanks in advance to Philipp for providing the agenda. Best regards. ----------------------------------------------------- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr ----------------------------------------------------- -------- Original Message -------- Subject: EVO Booking : OGF preparation of PGI / BES / JSDL from Wed, 14 Sep 11 16:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 11 17:58:20 +0200 From: evosupport(a)vrvs.org To: urbah(a)lal.in2p3.fr Hello Etienne URBAH, You have BOOKED a meeting in EVO (http://evo.caltech.edu) Title: OGF preparation of PGI / BES / JSDL Description: Preparation of the PGI / BES / JSDL sessions at OGF 33 in Lyon next week Community: Universe Password: !!jsdlftw Meeting Access Information: - Meeting URL http://evo.caltech.edu/evoBeta/koala.jnlp?meeting=MsMiMI282BDMDe9l92Dt9s - Password: !!jsdlftw - Phone Bridge ID: 399 7332 Password: 0162 Central European Summer Time (+0200) Start 2011-09-14 16:00 End 2011-09-14 18:00 Japan Standard Time (+0900) Start 2011-09-14 23:00 End 2011-09-15 01:00 Eastern Daylight Time (-0400) Start 2011-09-14 10:00 End 2011-09-14 12:00 Pacific Daylight Time (-0700) Start 2011-09-14 07:00 End 2011-09-14 09:00 EVO Phone Bridge Telephone Numbers: --------------- - USA (Caltech, Pasadena, CA) +1 626 395 2112 - Switzerland (CERN, Geneva) +41 22 76 71400 - Slovakia (UPJS, Kosice) +421 55 234 2420 - Italy (INFN, several cities) http://server10.infn.it/video/index.php?page=telephone_numbers Enter '4000' to access the EVO bridge - Germany (DESY, Hamburg) +49 40 8998 1340 - USA (BNL, Upton, NY) +1 631 344 6100 - United Kingdom (University of Manchester) +44 161 306 6802 - Australia (ARCS) +61 Adelaide 08 8463 1011 Brisbane 07 3139 0705 Canberra 02 6112 8742 Hobart 03 623 70281 Melbourne 03 8685 8362 Perth 08 6461 6718 Sydney 02 8212 4591 - Netherlands (Nikhef, Amsterdam) +31 20 7165293 Dial '2' at the prompt - Canada (TRIUMF, Vancouver) +1 604 222 7700 - Czech Republic (CESNET, Prague) +420 95 007 2386 - USA (MIT, Cambridge, MA) +1 617 715 4691 - France (RAP, Paris) +33 144 27 81 50 - Skype (tm) (World-wide) evo.phone See: http://evo.caltech.edu/evoGate/Documentation/extclient/skype/skype.html

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Re: [OGSA-BES-WG] OGF OGSA-BES - Requirements for an improved Basic Execution Service
by Etienne URBAH 08 Sep '11

08 Sep '11

Andrew, Steven and all OGSA-BES stakeholders, At the OGSA-BES session at OGF32 in Salt Lake City on 17 July 2011, we had agreed to propose for the beginning of September 2011 improvements to the current specification of BES 1.0 described in GFD.108 But I am unable to define specifications before having a clear picture of requirements. Therefore, I have written down a document named 'Requirements for an improved Basic Execution Service (BES)' and available at http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc16306 This document is almost finished, with most chapters in a readable and consistent state. The only exception is the chapter about data management, which I hope to write down very soon. Thank you in advance for reading and criticizing this document. Best regards. ----------------------------------------------------- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr ----------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 01/09/2011 20:41, Etienne URBAH wrote: > Andrew, Steven and all OGSA-BES stakeholders, > > At the OGSA-BES session at OGF32 in Salt Lake City on 17 July 2011, we > had agreed to propose for the beginning of September 2011 improvements > to the current specification of BES 1.0 described in GFD.108 > > But I am unable to define specifications before having a clear picture > of requirements. > > Therefore, I am currently writing down a document named 'Requirements > for an improved Basic Execution Service (BES)'. > > This document is NOT finished, but the first 10 chapters are in a > readable and consistent state. > > The current version of this document is in the attached > 'BES-Improvements-Requirements.doc' file. > > Thank you in advance for reading and criticizing this document. > > When GridForge will be up again, I will save the latest version there. > > Best regards. > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS > Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France > Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah > Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr > -----------------------------------------------------

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OGF OGSA-BES - Requirements for an improved Basic Execution Service
by Etienne URBAH 01 Sep '11

01 Sep '11

Andrew, Steven and all OGSA-BES stakeholders, At the OGSA-BES session at OGF32 in Salt Lake City on 17 July 2011, we had agreed to propose for the beginning of September 2011 improvements to the current specification of BES 1.0 described in GFD.108 But I am unable to define specifications before having a clear picture of requirements. Therefore, I am currently writing down a document named 'Requirements for an improved Basic Execution Service (BES)'. This document is NOT finished, but the first 10 chapters are in a readable and consistent state. The current version of this document is in the attached 'BES-Improvements-Requirements.doc' file. Thank you in advance for reading and criticizing this document. When GridForge will be up again, I will save the latest version there. Best regards. ----------------------------------------------------- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr -----------------------------------------------------

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