August 2006 - ogsa-bes-wg

Thursday agenda
by Andrew Grimshaw 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

All, Proposed agenda for the Thursday call: Approve minutes - on gridforge Agenda bashing Page by page discussion and approval :-) of v21 of BES document Andrew Grimshaw Professor of Computer Science University of Virginia 434-982-2204 grimshaw(a)cs.virginia.edu

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OGSA BES Meeting
by Pulsipher_Darren＠emc.com 15 Aug '06

15 Aug '06

When: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:30 AM-11:30 AM (GMT-06:00) Central Time (US & Canada). Where: On Line *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* You are invited to join a meeting hosted by MR DARREN PULSIPHER. Meeting details are listed below. Instant Meeting Details: ------------------------------- Aug. 17, 2006 11:30 am EDT 8:30 am PDT Click on the following link to join the Audio Conference: http://wbbc.mci.com/wbbcClick2Join/servlet/WBBCClick2Join?cc=1&ph=866-880-00 98&pc=3425861&customHeader=mymeetings If you are unable to join with the above link, please dial in using one of the phone numbers below: UNITED KINGDOM Toll Number: +44-20-7108-6316 USA Toll Free Number: 866-880-0098 Participant Passcode: 3425861 Instant Net Conference Details: ------------------------------- Meeting Number: SW124357 Meeting Passcode: GGF Meeting Host: MR DARREN PULSIPHER Join Instructions for Instant Net Conference: 1. Join the meeting now: http://www.mymeetings.com/emc/nc/join.php?i=SW124357&p=GGF&t=c 2. Enter the required fields. 3. Indicate that you have read the Privacy Policy. 4. Click on Proceed. EMC² Darren Pulsipher Director of Engineering Grid Business Unit 501-442-9074 Email: Pulsipher_Darren(a)emc.com <mailto:Pulsipher_Darren@emc.com>

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Initial document drafts for HPC Profile
by Christopher Smith 14 Aug '06

14 Aug '06

Hi all, I've uploaded the following documents to gridforge: - HPC Profile Application Extension - JSDL extension for describing executables, etc. (https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13735?nav=1) - HPC Basic Profile - the skeleton of the profile document with the section for JSDL profiling filled in (for debate :-) ). https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13736?nav=1 Please send any comments to the list to get the discussion going, and we'll use the trackers to record any issues that need to be addressed. By the way ... in future I will only use the ogsa-hpcp-wg(a)ggf.org mailing list for discussion of these documents, so please subscribe if you haven't already. Please follow up to ogsa-hpcp-wg. -- Chris

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Updated BES Document
by Ian Foster 12 Aug '06

12 Aug '06

Dear All: I'm very sorry about the slow delivery of the updated BES spec. I thought that I'd be able to send it after my flight out to Vancouver prior to my vacation, but failed to get email connectivity. In any case, I enclose a new document with many changes. If you send comments before Sunday morning, I can try to address them on the flight back Sunday afternoon. I've tried to document some of the primary changes below. However, I really think it is important for people to read the document carefully, as there may well be other things that seemed unimportant to me but are in fact problematic. We should then discuss issues that seem problematic on a telecon. 1) Things that have changed: a) I've broken existing operations out into separate BES-Factory and BES-Management port-types, and added a new BES-Activity port-type. b) I've removed the material on separate WSRF and RMF renderings, and the material on notification, based on the assumption that we can do what David Snelling proposes and define BES in such a way that other desired behaviors (e.g. WSRF-specific or WS-Transfer-specific operations) can be added if/when desired via composition. To this end, I've also introduced the WS-BaseFaults faults. I realize that these changes haven't been approved, so we may need to back them out. But at least this way you can see what it looks like. c) I removed the "laststate" component from the "ActivityStatus" type, because this component seemed to be there specifically to deal with suspended activities, which are not longer part of the core specification. Presumably a BES that supports an extended state model with suspension will need to introduce "laststate" as an extension to the ActivityStatus type. 2) Things that seem problematic, or that are not done: a) We need a new state model section: I think someone is writing one? (I removed what is there.) b) I can't recall the new base states; these need to be entered. c) We need to update the BES-Factory attributes. d) I assume there should be per-activity BES-Activity attributes. I haven't entered any. e) I've introduced "subscription" and "lifetime management" elements as optional JSDL extensions. Certainly people that compose WS-Notification/WS-Eventing and WS-ResourceLifetime, respectively, with BES will want to use these. However, it may be that it is not appropriate to mention them in the BES spec, because they are specific to other WSRF/WS-Transfer specs. (I myself think that they should not be there, but I want to raise the topic to get other people's views.) f) The normative stuff in the appendices hasn't been completed. Regards -- Ian.

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Agenda for telecon
by Andrew Grimshaw 09 Aug '06

09 Aug '06

All, Proposed agenda: Agenda bashing Review each of the "container attributes" - section 5.1, and define it as: MUST SHOULD MAY What is this doing here? If time permits: additional attributes conferee's may suggest - please email to group tonight if possible. If time permits - not likely - trackers A Andrew Grimshaw Professor of Computer Science University of Virginia 434-982-2204 grimshaw(a)cs.virginia.edu

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BES Meeting
by Pulsipher_Darren＠emc.com 09 Aug '06

09 Aug '06

When: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:30 AM-11:30 AM (GMT-06:00) Central Time (US & Canada). Where: On Line *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* You are invited to join a meeting hosted by MR DARREN PULSIPHER. Meeting details are listed below. Instant Meeting Details: ------------------------------- Aug. 10, 2006 11:30 am EDT 8:30 am PDT Click on the following link to join the Audio Conference: http://wbbc.mci.com/wbbcClick2Join/servlet/WBBCClick2Join?cc=1&ph=866-880-00 98&pc=3425861&customHeader=mymeetings If you are unable to join with the above link, please dial in using one of the phone numbers below: UNITED KINGDOM Toll Number: +44-20-7108-6316 USA Toll Free Number: 866-880-0098 Participant Passcode: 3425861 Instant Net Conference Details: ------------------------------- Meeting Number: SW124357 Meeting Passcode: GGF Meeting Host: MR DARREN PULSIPHER Join Instructions for Instant Net Conference: 1. Join the meeting now: http://www.mymeetings.com/emc/nc/join.php?i=SW124357&p=GGF&t=c 2. Enter the required fields. 3. Indicate that you have read the Privacy Policy. 4. Click on Proceed. EMC² Darren Pulsipher Director of Engineering Grid Business Unit 501-442-9074 Email: Pulsipher_Darren(a)emc.com <mailto:Pulsipher_Darren@emc.com>

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Bes Meeting On 8-10-06
by Pulsipher_Darren＠emc.com 09 Aug '06

09 Aug '06

You are invited to join a meeting hosted by MR DARREN PULSIPHER. Meeting details are listed below. Instant Meeting Details: ------------------------------- Aug. 10, 2006 11:30 am EDT 8:30 am PDT Click on the following link to join the Audio Conference: http://wbbc.mci.com/wbbcClick2Join/servlet/WBBCClick2Join?cc=1&ph=866-880-00 98&pc=3425861&customHeader=mymeetings <http://wbbc.mci.com/wbbcClick2Join/servlet/WBBCClick2Join?cc=1&ph=866-880-0 098&pc=3425861&customHeader=mymeetings> If you are unable to join with the above link, please dial in using one of the phone numbers below: UNITED KINGDOM Toll Number: +44-20-7108-6316 USA Toll Free Number: 866-880-0098 Participant Passcode: 3425861 Instant Net Conference Details: ------------------------------- Meeting Number: SW124357 Meeting Passcode: GGF Meeting Host: MR DARREN PULSIPHER Join Instructions for Instant Net Conference: 1. Join the meeting now: http://www.mymeetings.com/emc/nc/join.php?i=SW124357&p=GGF&t=c <http://www.mymeetings.com/emc/nc/join.php?i=SW124357&p=GGF&t=c> 2. Enter the required fields. 3. Indicate that you have read the Privacy Policy. 4. Click on Proceed. EMC² Darren Pulsipher Director of Engineering Grid Business Unit 501-442-9074 Email: Pulsipher_Darren(a)emc.com <mailto:Pulsipher_Darren@emc.com>

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Thursday call
by Andrew Grimshaw 08 Aug '06

08 Aug '06

All, I have been asked to move the telecom back 30 minutes so as to not conflict with the tail-end of the OGSA call. So, 11:30 eastern. A Andrew Grimshaw Professor of Computer Science University of Virginia 434-982-2204 grimshaw(a)cs.virginia.edu

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Next telecon
by Andrew Grimshaw 07 Aug '06

07 Aug '06

All, Time to fire those engines back up. Steven and I propose a telecon this week at the usual time - right after the Thursday OGSA call. 4 PM UK, 11 AM east coast, 10 am central, 8 am west coast. Agenda and dial in information to follow. If you have agenda topics please send them in. We need to get this baby wrapped! A Andrew Grimshaw Professor of Computer Science University of Virginia 434-982-2204 grimshaw(a)cs.virginia.edu

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Action Items from OGSA-WG F2F
by Hiro Kishimoto 06 Aug '06

06 Aug '06

Hi Andrew, Darren, and Steven, The following is your Action Items from OGSA and fellow WG F2F meeting. Please take them from here. - BES-WG chairs to ask the data group to define the filesystems as their work product Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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