April 2005 - ogsa-bes-bof

Hotel links
by Andrew Grimshaw 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

All, The Rydges link via Imperial College --- better rates than the general web page http://www.imperial.ac.uk/conferences/form.asp?form_id=4 <http://www.imperial.ac.uk/conferences/form.asp?form_id=4&hotel_id=rydges> &hotel_id=rydges Another that in retrospect is closer (by a block) is the Queens Gate Concord http://www.imperial.ac.uk/conferences/form.asp?form_id=4 <http://www.imperial.ac.uk/conferences/form.asp?form_id=4&hotel_id=concorde> &hotel_id=concorde Note the rate is given on the next web page. Hotels in general around Imperial College http://www.imperial.ac.uk/conferences/hotel_dir.asp?campus_id=sk

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Agenda for April 28 OGSA-BES conference call
by Andrew Grimshaw 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

The BES teleconference is scheduled for this Thursday, April 28,(US) at 10 AM eastern. The dial in number (thanks IBM) is: Free: +1-800-664-6895 Toll: +1-719-955-1126 passcode: 285178 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net <http://ogsa.glance.net/> Session key: 0428 Agenda for April 28 OGSA-BES conference call Agenda bashing Basic interface discussion - try to reach agreement (no pun intended) Review of concepts presented at BOF in Korea Common theme Some_sort_of_handle submit(JSDL_doc job_description) // Note, this punts the discussion of what we need in the JSDL to a later discussion Then a set of management functions for jobs Strawman interface (based on Steven's document) Propose slight modification to extend it beyond legacy jobs, and give the handle a "type", e.g., WS-Name instantiate(JSDL_doc job_description) Set of management functions Wrap-up

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OGSA-BES charter
by Andrew Grimshaw 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

All, The attached was sent to the GFSG for approval on Sunday. It is the document we discussed last Thursday. An agenda for this Thursday's call will follow tomorrow. Andrew

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Reminder: OGSA-BES first teleconference
by Andrew Grimshaw 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

All, The first BES teleconference is scheduled for this Thursday, April 21,(US) at 10 AM eastern. The dial in number (thanks IBM) is: Free: +1-800-664-6895 Toll: +1-719-955-1126 passcode: 285178 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net <http://ogsa.glance.net/> Session key: 0421 The agenda is: Agenda bashing Charter finalization: Scope issues: 1) Legacy only or include "service instantiation" 2) Definition of "job" interface - or leave it to another WG Approval of modification "to communicate and interact regularly with the OGSA-WG". Discussion of future telecon's, e.g., End first agenda Because of the importance of JSDL to our discussions I have included links to the relevant information. JSDL Specification draft information. https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/jsdl-wg/document/draft-ggf-jsdl-spec/en / Also here's the link to the JSDL Introduction presentation: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/jsdl-wg/document/JSDL-Introduction/en/ Issues for discussion in the following telecon's 1) Agreement or not agreement 2) WSRF or WSRF-neutral 3) Metadata/attributes of containers 4) Interface of the service container 5) Interactions with JSDL - terms and semantics of terms 6) I/O specifications and JSDL terms 7) Service containers as manageable entities Please send us your thoughts on other topics. Andrew Grimshaw Darren Pulsipher Steven Newhouse _____ From: Andrew Grimshaw [mailto:grimshaw@cs.virginia.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:09 PM To: 'ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org'; 'OGSA-BES-bof(a)ggf.org' Subject: OGSA-BES first teleconference All, The first BES teleconference is scheduled for this Thursday, April 21,(US) at 10 AM eastern. The dial in number (thanks IBM) is: Free: +1-800-664-6895 Toll: +1-719-955-1126 passcode: 285178 The agenda is: Agenda bashing Charter finalization: Scope issues: 3) Legacy only or include "service instantiation" 4) Definition of "job" interface - or leave it to another WG Discussion of future telecon's, e.g., End first agenda Issues for discussion in the following telecon's 8) Agreement or not agreement 9) WSRF or WSRF-neutral 10) Metadata/attributes of containers 11) Interface of the service container 12) Interactions with JSDL - terms and semantics of terms 13) I/O specifications and JSDL terms 14) Service containers as manageable entities Please send us your thoughts on other topics. Andrew Grimshaw Darren Pulsipher Steven Newhouse

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Re: [ogsa-wg] OGSA-BES first teleconference
by Tom Maguire 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

Is it safe to assume the duration is 1 hour? Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. – Antoine de Saint-Exupery T o m M a g u i r e STSM, On Demand Architecture Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 "Andrew Grimshaw" <grimshaw(a)cs.virg inia.edu> To Sent by: <ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org>, owner-ogsa-wg@ggf <OGSA-BES-bof(a)ggf.org> .org cc Subject 04/19/2005 04:09 [ogsa-wg] OGSA-BES first PM teleconference All, The first BES teleconference is scheduled for this Thursday, April 21,(US) at 10 AM eastern. The dial in number (thanks IBM) is: Free: +1-800-664-6895 Toll: +1-719-955-1126 passcode: 285178 The agenda is: Agenda bashing Charter finalization: Scope issues: 1) Legacy only or include “service instantiation” 2) Definition of “job” interface – or leave it to another WG Discussion of future telecon’s, e.g., End first agenda Issues for discussion in the following telecon’s 1) Agreement or not agreement 2) WSRF or WSRF-neutral 3) Metadata/attributes of containers 4) Interface of the service container 5) Interactions with JSDL – terms and semantics of terms 6) I/O specifications and JSDL terms 7) Service containers as manageable entities Please send us your thoughts on other topics. Andrew Grimshaw Darren Pulsipher Steven Newhouse

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Re: [ogsa-wg] OGSA-BES DRAFT charter and F2F
by Tom Maguire 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

If there is still a need for a telecon number to use; we can use mine. Free: +1-800-664-6895 Toll: +1-719-955-1126 passcode: 285178 Also what is the duration of the call? Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. – Antoine de Saint-Exupery T o m M a g u i r e STSM, On Demand Architecture Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 "Andrew Grimshaw" <grimshaw(a)cs.virg inia.edu> To Sent by: <ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org>, owner-ogsa-wg@ggf <OGSA-BES-bof(a)ggf.org> .org cc "Bill Nitzberg" <bill(a)computer.org>, "Stephen 03/31/2005 09:27 Pickles" AM <stephen.pickles(a)man.ac.uk>, "'Karl Czajkowski'" <karlcz(a)univa.com> Subject [ogsa-wg] OGSA-BES DRAFT charter and F2F All, Attached is the draft BES charter. Please comment in the next several days so we can get this off to the GFSG. A few other administrative things. 1) We are planning a face-to-face in conjunction with the OGSA F2F in London at the end of May. The OGSA F2F is May 23-24. We will have the BES F2F the day before – on Sunday the 22. 2) The proposed weekly teleconference time is 10 AM Eastern (US) on Thursdays (NOT including today.) It is not an ideal time for the folks in Asia. Midnight in Japan, and 10 PM in Thailand. We are working on finding a conference call number and will post in advance. Any ideas are appreciated. Andrew(See attached file: OGSA Basic Execution Service Working Group Charter march-14-2005.doc)

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