FYI, A number of messages have been sent to security-area@ggf.org in the past day(s) without getting delivered. The systems people are currently looking at the problem. In the meanwhile, may we do some PR for two new groups that now have their mailing lists up and running: Firewall Interest (fi-rg) and Trusted Computing (tc-rg). To subscribe to these lists, send mail to majordomo@ggf.org with one or both of the following lines in the message body: subscribe fi-rg subscribe tc-rg Hope to see many of you in Chicago, Olle & Dane