[ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Sept. 21st call
20 Sep
2006
20 Sep
'06
10:41 a.m.
Hi all,
The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Sept. 21st.
Thursday from 8:30am - 10:30am (CDT).
Dial-in numbers for Thursday:
Free: +1-888-452-0308
Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505
PIN: 71815
Screen share service will be provided.
URL: http://ogsa.glance.net
Session key: 0921
See more explanation:
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584?nav=1
1) Early discussion (20 min)
Note taker assignment
Roll call
Telecon minutes approval (Sept. 7)
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13796?nav=1
Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email)
Agenda bashing
2) GGF18 and F2F meeting debriefing (20 min)
Feedback and impression on GGF18 sessions and F2F.
Minutes approval
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.ogsa-wg/docman.root.meeting_materials_and_minutes.ggf_meetings.ggf18
If you have not yet upload your materials, please
do so before the call.
3) OGSA security (David Snelling, 80 min)
3-1) Formalities
3-2) Existing Technologies Summary
X.509
X.509, with proxy extension
SAML
Specific SAML profiles of interest.
XACML
....
3-3) Overview of Security Area activity
FI-RG
OGSA-AuthZ-WG
TC-RG
3-4) Initial short list of minimal use cases
OGSA Base security profile summary
OGSA secure channel for authorization
SAML based point to point authorization
Delegation?
3-5) Security Profile status update (Takuya)
3-6) Other??
4) Wrap up (10 min)
AOB
<*NEXT CALL*>
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1
Sept. 25 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap
Sept. 28 (Thu): TBD
Oct. 2 (Mon): Information/data modeling
Oct. 5 (Thu): Security
Oct. 9 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap
<*ACTION ITEMS*>
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569?nav=1
> From GGF18 EGA session (Sept. 12)
AI-0912a: Hiro to set up an initial group of people to start a
discussion within OGSA. Identify what should be done.
- Dave Snelling, Andrew Grimshaw, Tom Maguire
- Paul Strong, Alan Clark, Bob Thome
> From GGF18 EMS session (Sept. 13)
AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES.
AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities
(short paragraph for each, e.g. time constraint as JSDL
extension.)
AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this “terminate”
method of activity interface.
AI-0913d: Andrew to propose clarification on this issue in BES
specification.
AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario.
AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM.
AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal.
> From Sept. 14 OGSA F2F
AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just
presented into the scenarios document
AI-0914b (D Snelling, D Merrill): Set up an OGSA Security design
team
AI-0914c (E Stokes): Send a mail to the BES mailing list requesting
re-examination of the BES spec appendix regarding the
Information Model relationship
AI-0914d (A Grimshaw): Propose new text for the said appendix;
arrange telecon woth interested parties to mediate the
conflicting interests
AI-0914e (A Grimshaw): Initiate and ramp up the interop fest
activities
AI-0914f (H Kishimoto): Fix the location of the next F2F and inform
the group vial the mailing list
> From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F
AI-0915a (A Savva, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to
collect workflow experience
> From Sept. 7 call
AI-0907a: Hiro to add Chris Jordan to the list of people attending
the F2F at the IBM facility.
AI-0907b: Takuya will search for an external reliable source of
strong (or deprecated) ciphers to reference.
AI-0907c: Andreas will revise the explanatory text and send the new
version to Takuya.
AI-0907d: Takuya will update the documents and issue a final call
on the list. (Probably during GGF18.)
AI-0907e: Hiro to send an email to Greg requesting that the
'obsoletes' information be added to the document
template.
AI-0907f: Hiro to add an agenda item for the F2F to discuss a
revision of statement R0711.
> From Aug. 31 call
AI-0831c: (A Savva) Update/rewrite secction 4.1 of the EMS
Architecture scenarios
AI-0831d: (A Savva) Add the Application Version in section 4.2,
paragraph 4, of the EMS Arch Scenarios
AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this
scenario.
AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch
Scenarios document
AI-0831g: (A Savva) List of open issues, scenarios and refinements
for the EMS Arch Scenarios document
AI-0831h: (M Morgan, A Grimshaw) Provide an outline sequence how
BES, ByteIO, RNS, etc. are combined together at University
of Virginia
> From Aug. 28 call
Action AI-0828a: Frank will do more investigation, read the paper,
and make a proposal.
> From Aug. 17 call
AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN,
Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and
start a discussion on how they handle data:
- how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled
- how transfers are modeled
- how files are advertised
- how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?)
(Postponed until GGF18)
> From Aug. 10 call
AI-0810a: Donal to look into the relation of the EPS and CDL
(retrieval, update, etc). (Eventually this should probably
become a separate scenario.)
> From Aug. 3 call
AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why
using ID/IDREF is not a good idea.
AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment
variables
> From July 20 F2F
- EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to
contribute use cases.
- Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to
Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes.
<postponed>
- Steve McGough & Andreas to do a mapping from the current JSDL
elements / terminology into the new information model structure
(Proposed split into Description and Requirements)
(from July 18th F2F, By GGF18 as original discussed.)
----
Hiro Kishimoto
21 Sep
21 Sep
9:18 p.m.
Hi Hiro and all,
> 3-5) Security Profile status update (Takuya)
I'm sorry, but I cannot make this call.
I told that I would work for the last issue, to search for and refer
to some external documents for a list of recommended ciphersuites for
TLS/SSL connections by the GGF18, I couldn't find a time for it.
Hopefully, I will work for it in the coming weekend and submit a draft
in next Monday.
Thank you,
----
Takuya Mori
moritaku@bx.jp.nec.com / tk-mori@isd.nec.co.jp
System Platform Software Development Division
NEC Corporation, Tokyo Japan
> 3-6) Other??
>
> 4) Wrap up (10 min)
> AOB
>
> <*NEXT CALL*>
> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1
>
> Sept. 25 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap
> Sept. 28 (Thu): TBD
> Oct. 2 (Mon): Information/data modeling
> Oct. 5 (Thu): Security
> Oct. 9 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap
>
> <*ACTION ITEMS*>
> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569?nav=1
> > From GGF18 EGA session (Sept. 12)
> AI-0912a: Hiro to set up an initial group of people to start a
> discussion within OGSA. Identify what should be done.
> - Dave Snelling, Andrew Grimshaw, Tom Maguire
> - Paul Strong, Alan Clark, Bob Thome
>
> > From GGF18 EMS session (Sept. 13)
> AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES.
> AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities
> (short paragraph for each, e.g. time constraint as JSDL
> extension.)
> AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this �terminate�
> method of activity interface.
> AI-0913d: Andrew to propose clarification on this issue in BES
> specification.
> AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario.
> AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM.
> AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal.
>
> > From Sept. 14 OGSA F2F
> AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just
> presented into the scenarios document
> AI-0914b (D Snelling, D Merrill): Set up an OGSA Security design
> team
> AI-0914c (E Stokes): Send a mail to the BES mailing list requesting
> re-examination of the BES spec appendix regarding the
> Information Model relationship
> AI-0914d (A Grimshaw): Propose new text for the said appendix;
> arrange telecon woth interested parties to mediate the
> conflicting interests
> AI-0914e (A Grimshaw): Initiate and ramp up the interop fest
> activities
> AI-0914f (H Kishimoto): Fix the location of the next F2F and inform
> the group vial the mailing list
>
> > From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F
> AI-0915a (A Savva, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to
> collect workflow experience
>
> > From Sept. 7 call
> AI-0907a: Hiro to add Chris Jordan to the list of people attending
> the F2F at the IBM facility.
> AI-0907b: Takuya will search for an external reliable source of
> strong (or deprecated) ciphers to reference.
> AI-0907c: Andreas will revise the explanatory text and send the new
> version to Takuya.
> AI-0907d: Takuya will update the documents and issue a final call
> on the list. (Probably during GGF18.)
> AI-0907e: Hiro to send an email to Greg requesting that the
> 'obsoletes' information be added to the document
> template.
> AI-0907f: Hiro to add an agenda item for the F2F to discuss a
> revision of statement R0711.
>
> > From Aug. 31 call
> AI-0831c: (A Savva) Update/rewrite secction 4.1 of the EMS
> Architecture scenarios
> AI-0831d: (A Savva) Add the Application Version in section 4.2,
> paragraph 4, of the EMS Arch Scenarios
> AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this
> scenario.
> AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch
> Scenarios document
> AI-0831g: (A Savva) List of open issues, scenarios and refinements
> for the EMS Arch Scenarios document
> AI-0831h: (M Morgan, A Grimshaw) Provide an outline sequence how
> BES, ByteIO, RNS, etc. are combined together at University
> of Virginia
>
> > From Aug. 28 call
> Action AI-0828a: Frank will do more investigation, read the paper,
> and make a proposal.
>
> > From Aug. 17 call
> AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN,
> Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and
> start a discussion on how they handle data:
> - how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled
> - how transfers are modeled
> - how files are advertised
> - how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?)
> (Postponed until GGF18)
>
> > From Aug. 10 call
> AI-0810a: Donal to look into the relation of the EPS and CDL
> (retrieval, update, etc). (Eventually this should probably
> become a separate scenario.)
>
> > From Aug. 3 call
> AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why
> using ID/IDREF is not a good idea.
> AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment
> variables
>
> > From July 20 F2F
> - EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to
> contribute use cases.
> - Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to
> Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes.
>
> <postponed>
> - Steve McGough & Andreas to do a mapping from the current JSDL
> elements / terminology into the new information model structure
> (Proposed split into Description and Requirements)
> (from July 18th F2F, By GGF18 as original discussed.)
> ----
> Hiro Kishimoto
>
> --
> ogsa-wg mailing list
> ogsa-wg@ogf.org
> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg
>
22 Sep
22 Sep
11:31 a.m.
Thanks Takuya, If necessary, I'm happy to add this topic to upcoming Monday call (about 10~20 minutes?). ---- Hiro Kishimoto Takuya Mori wrote: > Hi Hiro and all, > >> 3-5) Security Profile status update (Takuya) > > I'm sorry, but I cannot make this call. > > I told that I would work for the last issue, to search for and refer > to some external documents for a list of recommended ciphersuites for > TLS/SSL connections by the GGF18, I couldn't find a time for it. > > Hopefully, I will work for it in the coming weekend and submit a draft > in next Monday. > > Thank you, > > ---- > Takuya Mori > moritaku@bx.jp.nec.com / tk-mori@isd.nec.co.jp > System Platform Software Development Division > NEC Corporation, Tokyo Japan > >> 3-6) Other?? >> >> 4) Wrap up (10 min) >> AOB >> >> <*NEXT CALL*> >> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1 >> >> Sept. 25 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap >> Sept. 28 (Thu): TBD >> Oct. 2 (Mon): Information/data modeling >> Oct. 5 (Thu): Security >> Oct. 9 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap >> >> <*ACTION ITEMS*> >> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569?nav=1 >> > From GGF18 EGA session (Sept. 12) >> AI-0912a: Hiro to set up an initial group of people to start a >> discussion within OGSA. Identify what should be done. >> - Dave Snelling, Andrew Grimshaw, Tom Maguire >> - Paul Strong, Alan Clark, Bob Thome >> >> > From GGF18 EMS session (Sept. 13) >> AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES. >> AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities >> (short paragraph for each, e.g. time constraint as JSDL >> extension.) >> AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this �terminate� >> method of activity interface. >> AI-0913d: Andrew to propose clarification on this issue in BES >> specification. >> AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario. >> AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM. >> AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal. >> >> > From Sept. 14 OGSA F2F >> AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just >> presented into the scenarios document >> AI-0914b (D Snelling, D Merrill): Set up an OGSA Security design >> team >> AI-0914c (E Stokes): Send a mail to the BES mailing list requesting >> re-examination of the BES spec appendix regarding the >> Information Model relationship >> AI-0914d (A Grimshaw): Propose new text for the said appendix; >> arrange telecon woth interested parties to mediate the >> conflicting interests >> AI-0914e (A Grimshaw): Initiate and ramp up the interop fest >> activities >> AI-0914f (H Kishimoto): Fix the location of the next F2F and inform >> the group vial the mailing list >> >> > From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F >> AI-0915a (A Savva, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to >> collect workflow experience >> >> > From Sept. 7 call >> AI-0907a: Hiro to add Chris Jordan to the list of people attending >> the F2F at the IBM facility. >> AI-0907b: Takuya will search for an external reliable source of >> strong (or deprecated) ciphers to reference. >> AI-0907c: Andreas will revise the explanatory text and send the new >> version to Takuya. >> AI-0907d: Takuya will update the documents and issue a final call >> on the list. (Probably during GGF18.) >> AI-0907e: Hiro to send an email to Greg requesting that the >> 'obsoletes' information be added to the document >> template. >> AI-0907f: Hiro to add an agenda item for the F2F to discuss a >> revision of statement R0711. >> >> > From Aug. 31 call >> AI-0831c: (A Savva) Update/rewrite secction 4.1 of the EMS >> Architecture scenarios >> AI-0831d: (A Savva) Add the Application Version in section 4.2, >> paragraph 4, of the EMS Arch Scenarios >> AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this >> scenario. >> AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch >> Scenarios document >> AI-0831g: (A Savva) List of open issues, scenarios and refinements >> for the EMS Arch Scenarios document >> AI-0831h: (M Morgan, A Grimshaw) Provide an outline sequence how >> BES, ByteIO, RNS, etc. are combined together at University >> of Virginia >> >> > From Aug. 28 call >> Action AI-0828a: Frank will do more investigation, read the paper, >> and make a proposal. >> >> > From Aug. 17 call >> AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN, >> Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and >> start a discussion on how they handle data: >> - how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled >> - how transfers are modeled >> - how files are advertised >> - how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?) >> (Postponed until GGF18) >> >> > From Aug. 10 call >> AI-0810a: Donal to look into the relation of the EPS and CDL >> (retrieval, update, etc). (Eventually this should probably >> become a separate scenario.) >> >> > From Aug. 3 call >> AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why >> using ID/IDREF is not a good idea. >> AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment >> variables >> >> > From July 20 F2F >> - EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to >> contribute use cases. >> - Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to >> Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes. >> >> <postponed> >> - Steve McGough & Andreas to do a mapping from the current JSDL >> elements / terminology into the new information model structure >> (Proposed split into Description and Requirements) >> (from July 18th F2F, By GGF18 as original discussed.) >> ---- >> Hiro Kishimoto >> >> -- >> ogsa-wg mailing list >> ogsa-wg@ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg >>
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