4 Oct
2006
4 Oct
'06
1:22 p.m.
Hi all,
The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Oct. 5th
Thursday from 8:30am - 10:30am (CDT).
Dial-in numbers for Thursday:
Free: +1-888-452-0308
Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505
PIN: 71815
See more information:
- https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1
Screen share service will be provided.
URL: http://ogsa.glance.net
Session key: 1005
See more explanation:
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584?nav=1
1) Early discussion (20 min)
Note taker assignment
Roll call
Telecon minutes approval (Sept. 28)
- https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13912?nav=1
Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email)
Agenda bashing
2) OGSA security (David Snelling, 60 min)
- What needs to be done to achieve simple interop
generally and to bootstrap more
- Profile to get authentication information from a
secure channel for authentication
- Profile for other methods to get authentication
informatin for authorization
3) Secure Channel Security Profile status (Takuya Mori, 20 min)
> Takuya will prepare a new version. Since there are a number of
> unresolved issues the Secure Channel will not go to final call until
> the issues raised during this review are closed.
>
> There is a security discussion scheduled for next Thursday (Oct
> 5). Confirm status at that time.
4) Wrap up (10 min)
AOB
<*NEXT CALL*>
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1
Oct. 9 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap
Oct. 12 (Thu): <No call?>
Oct. 16 (Mon): DMTF Workregister
Oct. 19 (Thu): Information/data modeling,
Security, secure channel profile review
Oct. 23 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap
Oct. 26 (Thu): Information/data modeling
Oct. 30 (Mon): <TBD>
<*ACTION ITEMS*>
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569?nav=1
> From Sept. 28 call.
AI-0928a: Takuya will issue a final call on BSP-Core on the list.
AI-0928b: Takuya will get another opinion on TLS 1.1 and
ciphersuites (probably ask Frank Siebenlist)
AI-0928c: Andreas will propose new text for the reference to the
NIST document to make it clearer that it is an informative
statement
> From Sept. 25 call.
AI-0925a: Hiro to setup wiki page with names of people who have
expressed interest in the security team
AI-0925b: Jem to pull definitions together and produce a new
merged first draft.
- Send a mail to the ogsa list about this work
- Set Oct. 9 as the target for the first Glossary draft
AI-0925c: Hiro to ask Alan Clark to ask EGA TC member who want to
contribute to join the OGSA list and this convergence work. -
Members may have changed but organizations have not
AI-0925g: Tom will send a note to the list (to: Ellen S and Fred M)
on why the current separation of service/info model may
not be quite right.
> From Sept. 21 call.
AI-0921b: Security members to discuss the BoF proposal(s) further
- For example, one outcome could be some standards
activity to mirror CAOPS activities and tie-in to OGSA
AI-0921d: Dave S to collect additional material in order to identify
security issues better.
- (AI-0921e is an issue instance)
AI-0921i: Dave S to provide an agenda for the next security call.
- Draft agenda items for Oct. 5th:
- What needs to be done to achieve simple interop
generally and to bootstrap more
- Profile to get authentication information from a
secure channel for authentication
- Profile for other methods to get authentication
informatin for authorization
> From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F
AI-0915a: (A Savva, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to
collect workflow (BPEL) experience
AI-0915b: Ellen to check the status of the items on the
DMTF work register: report which have been done, and what
DMTF is doing for the rest. (by Oct. 13)
AI-0915c: Ellen to propose new text to update the DMTF register
(by Oct. 13)
AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker
AI-0915e: Hiro to talk with OGF Editor to start an errata process
> From Sept. 14 OGSA F2F
AI-0914f (Fred Brisard and Hiro Kishimoto): Fix the location of the
next F2F and inform the group vial the mailing list
> From Aug. 17 call
AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN,
Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and
start a discussion on how they handle data:
- how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled
- how transfers are modeled
- how files are advertised
- how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?)
(Due Oct. 9)
> From Aug. 3 call
AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why
using ID/IDREF is not a good idea.
AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment
variables
> From July 20 F2F
- EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to
contribute use cases.
- Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to
Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes.
Postponed:
Until next EMS call.
AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just
presented into the scenarios document
AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES.
AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities
(short paragraph for each, e.g. time constraint as JSDL
extension.)
AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this “terminate”
method of activity interface.
AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario.
AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM.
AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal on
"ActivityExecutionCandidate."
AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this
scenario.
AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch
Scenarios document
AI-0921c: Dave S (as Standards VP) to talk to the next
Security AD (when one is selected) about the Security Area
task list.
----
Hiro Kishimoto
5 Oct
5 Oct
5:33 a.m.
It is the EUGrid PMA meeting, but I will pull away from that to dial into this one. With regard to AI-0921b, I have polled several members of the existing CAOps and Shibboleth communities, and gotten positive responses generally to the idea of an OGSA-AuthN WG and to a BOF at the next OGF (GGF) conference to bring this work together to write a charter. Some members of the OGSA-AuthZ group who overlap have also responded favorably. I have not received any negative responses. Best, Alan On Oct 3, 2006, at 11:22 PM, Hiro Kishimoto wrote:
OGSA-WG telecon on Oct. 5th Thursday from 8:30am - 10:30am (CDT)
Alan Sill TIGRE Senior Scientist High Performance Computing Center TTU ==================================================================== : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: Alan.Sill@ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ====================================================================
6:05 a.m.
Also, there is a potential overlap with a NOMCOM call scheduled to begin a half an hour earlier, just as a warning, which may affect other participants. Alan On Oct 4, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Alan Sill wrote:
It is the EUGrid PMA meeting, but I will pull away from that to dial into this one.
Alan Sill TIGRE Senior Scientist High Performance Computing Center TTU ==================================================================== : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: Alan.Sill@ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ====================================================================
5:55 a.m.
Sorry, I won't be able to make the call. -Frank. Hiro Kishimoto wrote: > Hi all, > > The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Oct. 5th > Thursday from 8:30am - 10:30am (CDT). > > Dial-in numbers for Thursday: > Free: +1-888-452-0308 > Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 > PIN: 71815 > See more information: > - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1 > > Screen share service will be provided. > URL: http://ogsa.glance.net > Session key: 1005 > See more explanation: > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584?nav=1 > > 1) Early discussion (20 min) > Note taker assignment > Roll call > Telecon minutes approval (Sept. 28) > - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13912?nav=1 > Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email) > Agenda bashing > > 2) OGSA security (David Snelling, 60 min) > - What needs to be done to achieve simple interop > generally and to bootstrap more > - Profile to get authentication information from a > secure channel for authentication > - Profile for other methods to get authentication > informatin for authorization > > 3) Secure Channel Security Profile status (Takuya Mori, 20 min) > > >> Takuya will prepare a new version. Since there are a number of >> unresolved issues the Secure Channel will not go to final call until >> the issues raised during this review are closed. >> >> There is a security discussion scheduled for next Thursday (Oct >> 5). Confirm status at that time. >> > > 4) Wrap up (10 min) > AOB > > <*NEXT CALL*> > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1 > > Oct. 9 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap > Oct. 12 (Thu): <No call?> > Oct. 16 (Mon): DMTF Workregister > Oct. 19 (Thu): Information/data modeling, > Security, secure channel profile review > Oct. 23 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap > Oct. 26 (Thu): Information/data modeling > Oct. 30 (Mon): <TBD> > > <*ACTION ITEMS*> > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569?nav=1 > > > From Sept. 28 call. > > AI-0928a: Takuya will issue a final call on BSP-Core on the list. > AI-0928b: Takuya will get another opinion on TLS 1.1 and > ciphersuites (probably ask Frank Siebenlist) > AI-0928c: Andreas will propose new text for the reference to the > NIST document to make it clearer that it is an informative > statement > > > From Sept. 25 call. > AI-0925a: Hiro to setup wiki page with names of people who have > expressed interest in the security team > AI-0925b: Jem to pull definitions together and produce a new > merged first draft. > - Send a mail to the ogsa list about this work > - Set Oct. 9 as the target for the first Glossary draft > AI-0925c: Hiro to ask Alan Clark to ask EGA TC member who want to > contribute to join the OGSA list and this convergence work. - > Members may have changed but organizations have not > AI-0925g: Tom will send a note to the list (to: Ellen S and Fred M) > on why the current separation of service/info model may > not be quite right. > > > From Sept. 21 call. > AI-0921b: Security members to discuss the BoF proposal(s) further > - For example, one outcome could be some standards > activity to mirror CAOPS activities and tie-in to OGSA > AI-0921d: Dave S to collect additional material in order to identify > security issues better. > - (AI-0921e is an issue instance) > AI-0921i: Dave S to provide an agenda for the next security call. > - Draft agenda items for Oct. 5th: > - What needs to be done to achieve simple interop > generally and to bootstrap more > - Profile to get authentication information from a > secure channel for authentication > - Profile for other methods to get authentication > informatin for authorization > > > From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F > AI-0915a: (A Savva, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to > collect workflow (BPEL) experience > AI-0915b: Ellen to check the status of the items on the > DMTF work register: report which have been done, and what > DMTF is doing for the rest. (by Oct. 13) > AI-0915c: Ellen to propose new text to update the DMTF register > (by Oct. 13) > AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker > AI-0915e: Hiro to talk with OGF Editor to start an errata process > > > From Sept. 14 OGSA F2F > AI-0914f (Fred Brisard and Hiro Kishimoto): Fix the location of the > next F2F and inform the group vial the mailing list > > > From Aug. 17 call > AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN, > Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and > start a discussion on how they handle data: > - how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled > - how transfers are modeled > - how files are advertised > - how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?) > (Due Oct. 9) > > > From Aug. 3 call > AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why > using ID/IDREF is not a good idea. > AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment > variables > > > From July 20 F2F > - EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to > contribute use cases. > - Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to > Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes. > > Postponed: > Until next EMS call. > AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just > presented into the scenarios document > AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES. > AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities > (short paragraph for each, e.g. time constraint as JSDL > extension.) > AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this “terminate” > method of activity interface. > AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario. > AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM. > AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal on > "ActivityExecutionCandidate." > AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this > scenario. > AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch > Scenarios document > > AI-0921c: Dave S (as Standards VP) to talk to the next > Security AD (when one is selected) about the Security Area > task list. > ---- > Hiro Kishimoto > > -- > ogsa-authz-wg mailing list > ogsa-authz-wg@ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-authz-wg > > -- Frank Siebenlist franks@mcs.anl.gov The Globus Alliance - Argonne National Laboratory
1:43 p.m.
New subject: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Oct. 5th call
Hi all,
I've update agenda items for security discussion by David
Snelling's proposal.
Talk to you soon,
----
Hiro Kishimoto
Hiro Kishimoto wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Oct. 5th
> Thursday from 8:30am - 10:30am (CDT).
>
> Dial-in numbers for Thursday:
> Free: +1-888-452-0308
> Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505
> PIN: 71815
> See more information:
> - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1
>
> Screen share service will be provided.
> URL: http://ogsa.glance.net
> Session key: 1005
> See more explanation:
> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584?nav=1
>
> 1) Early discussion (20 min)
> Note taker assignment
> Roll call
> Telecon minutes approval (Sept. 28)
> - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13912?nav=1
> Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email)
> Agenda bashing
S) OGSA security
S-1) Review Security Actions
S-2) Use Case discussion
OGSA Base security profile summary
OGSA secure channel for authorization
SAML based point to point authorization
Delegation?
Other?
S-3) BoF for OGSA-AuthN Discussion
S-4) Security Profile status update (Takuya)
>> Takuya will prepare a new version. Since there are a number of
>> unresolved issues the Secure Channel will not go to final call
>> until the issues raised during this review are closed.
>> There is a security discussion scheduled for next Thursday (Oct
>> 5). Confirm status at that time.
S-5) Next output discussion
S-6) AO(security)B
> 4) Wrap up (10 min)
> AOB
>
> <*NEXT CALL*>
> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1
>
> Oct. 9 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap
> Oct. 12 (Thu): <No call?>
> Oct. 16 (Mon): DMTF Workregister
> Oct. 19 (Thu): Information/data modeling,
> Security, secure channel profile review
> Oct. 23 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap
> Oct. 26 (Thu): Information/data modeling
> Oct. 30 (Mon): <TBD>
>
> <*ACTION ITEMS*>
> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569?nav=1
>
> > From Sept. 28 call.
>
> AI-0928a: Takuya will issue a final call on BSP-Core on the list.
> AI-0928b: Takuya will get another opinion on TLS 1.1 and
> ciphersuites (probably ask Frank Siebenlist)
> AI-0928c: Andreas will propose new text for the reference to the
> NIST document to make it clearer that it is an informative
> statement
>
> > From Sept. 25 call.
> AI-0925a: Hiro to setup wiki page with names of people who have
> expressed interest in the security team
> AI-0925b: Jem to pull definitions together and produce a new
> merged first draft.
> - Send a mail to the ogsa list about this work
> - Set Oct. 9 as the target for the first Glossary draft
> AI-0925c: Hiro to ask Alan Clark to ask EGA TC member who want to
> contribute to join the OGSA list and this convergence work. -
> Members may have changed but organizations have not
> AI-0925g: Tom will send a note to the list (to: Ellen S and Fred M)
> on why the current separation of service/info model may
> not be quite right.
>
> > From Sept. 21 call.
> AI-0921b: Security members to discuss the BoF proposal(s) further
> - For example, one outcome could be some standards
> activity to mirror CAOPS activities and tie-in to OGSA
> AI-0921d: Dave S to collect additional material in order to identify
> security issues better.
> - (AI-0921e is an issue instance)
> AI-0921i: Dave S to provide an agenda for the next security call.
> - Draft agenda items for Oct. 5th:
> - What needs to be done to achieve simple interop
> generally and to bootstrap more
> - Profile to get authentication information from a
> secure channel for authentication
> - Profile for other methods to get authentication
> informatin for authorization
>
> > From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F
> AI-0915a: (A Savva, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to
> collect workflow (BPEL) experience
> AI-0915b: Ellen to check the status of the items on the
> DMTF work register: report which have been done, and what
> DMTF is doing for the rest. (by Oct. 13)
> AI-0915c: Ellen to propose new text to update the DMTF register
> (by Oct. 13)
> AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker
> AI-0915e: Hiro to talk with OGF Editor to start an errata process
>
> > From Sept. 14 OGSA F2F
> AI-0914f (Fred Brisard and Hiro Kishimoto): Fix the location of the
> next F2F and inform the group vial the mailing list
>
> > From Aug. 17 call
> AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN,
> Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and
> start a discussion on how they handle data:
> - how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled
> - how transfers are modeled
> - how files are advertised
> - how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?)
> (Due Oct. 9)
>
> > From Aug. 3 call
> AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why
> using ID/IDREF is not a good idea.
> AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment
> variables
>
> > From July 20 F2F
> - EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to
> contribute use cases.
> - Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to
> Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes.
>
> Postponed:
> Until next EMS call.
> AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just
> presented into the scenarios document
> AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES.
> AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities
> (short paragraph for each, e.g. time constraint as JSDL
> extension.)
> AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this “terminate”
> method of activity interface.
> AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario.
> AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM.
> AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal on
> "ActivityExecutionCandidate."
> AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this
> scenario.
> AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch
> Scenarios document
>
> AI-0921c: Dave S (as Standards VP) to talk to the next
> Security AD (when one is selected) about the Security Area
> task list.
> ----
> Hiro Kishimoto
>
> --
> ogsa-wg mailing list
> ogsa-wg@ogf.org
> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg
>
>
10:33 p.m.
New subject: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Oct. 5th call
NOMCOM is running late also, so I (and probably Andreas) will have to be late also. I am still gathering responses to my OGSA-AuthN proposal, as well as some related communication (all positive). Alan On Oct 4, 2006, at 11:43 PM, Hiro Kishimoto wrote:
Hiro Kishimoto wrote:
Hi all,
The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Oct. 5th Thursday from 8:30am - 10:30am (CDT).
Alan Sill TIGRE Senior Scientist High Performance Computing Center TTU ==================================================================== : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: Alan.Sill@ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ====================================================================
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