Hi all,

The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Oct. 19th
Thursday from 8:30am - 10:30am  (CDT).

Dial-in numbers for Thursday:
   Free: +1-888-452-0308
   Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505
   PIN:  71815
   See more information:
   - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1

Screen share service will be provided.
   URL:         http://ogsa.glance.net
   Session key: 1019
   See more explanation:
   https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584?nav=1

1) Early discussion (20 min)
         Note taker assignment
         Roll call
         Telecon minutes approval (Oct. 16)
         - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13952
         Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email)
         Agenda bashing

2) Nov. F2F update (Hiro Kishimoto, 10 min)


3) OGSA AuthN WG BoF draft (Alan Sill, 30 min)

> - Alan Sill willing to take responsibility for pushing the process
>   for  getting a charter ready
> - AI-1005a: Alan Sill to have draft Charter ready before next
>   security  telecon (Dave to help and only as stand in for new area
 >   director).
> - Do we need more covereage if we have an active authorization and
 >   authentication working groups
> -- No, we need more covereage 
 > -- AI-1005b: People to send Dave Snelling more information, ideas for
 >    more security calls to complete coverage

4) Security Profile Update (Takuya Mori, 30 min)

 >   AI-0928a: Takuya will issue a final call on BSP-Core on the list.
> 	- Need to check status of WS-I documents
> 	- Secure Channel Profile on next telecon

5) Information/data modeling (Ellen Stokes, 30 min)

> - Discussion on if a requirements XML document could be constructed
> with powerful comparative expressions and at same time avoids the
> XPath expressions/joins on collecting input documents?  Perhaps just
> the relevant subset of a query in job. - Agreed to discuss more in
> second hour on Next Call - Oct 19th

6) Wrap up
         AOB

<*NEXT CALL*>
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1

Oct.  23 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap
Oct.  26 (Thu): Information/data modeling, EMS scenarios
Oct.  30 (Mon): DMTF work register
Nov.   2 (Thu): Security
Nov.   6 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap
Nov.   9 (Thu): F2F prep

<*ACTION ITEMS*>
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569

 > From Oct. 16 call.
     AI-1009d: Jem Will post tomorrow, comments received and will put
               into tracker.
     AI-1005a: Charter form created, ready for review.  Hiro will send
               links to charters.
	      Paper work for new working group needed - can use security
               design team folder in OGSA temporarily.
	      Feedback: Use next OGF to start WG rather than form a BOF.
               Hiro will bring proposal to GFSG, since needs
               security Area Director approval & GFSG.

 > From Oct. 8 call.
    AI-1009a: Review slide 6 again and clarify what the problem is
              (Reference Model Design Team)
    AI-1009b: Review the Reference Model 'Manage Job' in more
              detail. Specifically look at it from the perspective of
              an enterprise application (e.g., a 3-tier app) (Reference
              Model Design Team)
    AI-1009c: Hiro to ask Jay to provide his comments for Slide 6
              - Perspective of submitter vs platform provider and the
                hierarchical model connection
    AI-1009d: Jem will produce a topic discussion list for the
              converged glossary

 > From Oct. 5 call.
   AI-1005a: Alan Sill willing to take responsibility for pushing
             the process for getting a charter ready (by Oct. 19)
   AI-1005b: People to send Dave Snelling more information, ideas
             for more security calls to complete coverage
             (Since this does not have any specific owners, it will
              be closed Oct. 19)

 > From Sept. 28 call.
   AI-0928a: Takuya will issue a final call on BSP-Core on the list.

 > From Sept. 25 call.
   AI-0925c: Hiro to ask Alan Clark to ask EGA TC member who want to
        contribute to join the OGSA list and this convergence work.  -
        Members may have changed but organizations have not
   AI-0925g: Tom will send a note to the list (to: Ellen S and Fred M)
              on why the current separation of service/info model may
              not be quite right.

 > From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F
   AI-0915a: (A Savva, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to
              collect workflow (BPEL) experience
   AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker
   AI-0915e: Hiro to talk with OGF Editor to start an errata process

 > From Aug. 17 call
   AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN,
              Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and
              start a discussion on how they handle data:
              - how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled
              - how transfers are modeled
              - how files are advertised
              - how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?)
              (Due Oct. 9)

 > From Aug. 3 call
   AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why
              using ID/IDREF is not a good idea.
   AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment
              variables

 > From July 20 F2F
- EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to
      contribute use cases.
- Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to
      Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes.

Postponed:
Until next EMS call (Oct. 26):
   AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just
            presented into the scenarios document
   AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES.
   AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities
            (short paragraph for each, e.g. time constraint as JSDL
             extension.)
   AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this “terminate”
             method of activity interface.
   AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario.
   AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM.
   AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal on
             "ActivityExecutionCandidate."
   AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this
               scenario.
   AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch
               Scenarios document

   AI-0921c: Dave S (as Standards VP) to talk to the next
             Security AD (when one is selected) about the Security Area
             task list.
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Hiro Kishimoto