Possible changes to overall timetable
FYI, I've been discussing some possible changes to the overall timetable of OGF20, as shown in the attached spreadsheet. This is all still beinng discussed, e.g. at a meeting of the OGF event management commitee tomorrow. Comments welcome. The changes in this spreadsheet are as follows: Monday: - Reserved some of the workshop sessions for Wolfgang's Community Grids workshop - Minor change to OGC workshop Tuesday: - Squeezed in an extra plenary by shortening the lunch time - Moved a GIN session here from Wednesday - Specifed the requirements workshops and an EGR WG session Wednesday: - Replaced two group sessions with the Requirements Roll-up and TSC report sessions - Replaced a GIN session (moved to Tuesday) with a GLite developer session - Added UK to the list of morning speakers (i.e. 30 mins each for UK e-Science, OGF & EGEE) Thursday: - Removed the separate Exhibit tear-down / EGEE set up, as EGEE stalls will run continuously as part of the exhibition - Added an "Enterprise Adoption Planning" session and three groups in the Sidings (which isn't currently booked) - Specified a GT4 session as part of the EGEE track. Throughout: - Renamed "Standards" as "Groups", to include RGs and other non-standards groups. Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039
Sounds good to me. M On 28/1/07 14:55, "Dave Berry" <daveb@nesc.ac.uk> wrote:
FYI, I've been discussing some possible changes to the overall timetable of OGF20, as shown in the attached spreadsheet. This is all still beinng discussed, e.g. at a meeting of the OGF event management commitee tomorrow. Comments welcome.
The changes in this spreadsheet are as follows:
Monday: - Reserved some of the workshop sessions for Wolfgang's Community Grids workshop - Minor change to OGC workshop
Tuesday: - Squeezed in an extra plenary by shortening the lunch time - Moved a GIN session here from Wednesday - Specifed the requirements workshops and an EGR WG session
Wednesday: - Replaced two group sessions with the Requirements Roll-up and TSC report sessions - Replaced a GIN session (moved to Tuesday) with a GLite developer session - Added UK to the list of morning speakers (i.e. 30 mins each for UK e-Science, OGF & EGEE)
Thursday: - Removed the separate Exhibit tear-down / EGEE set up, as EGEE stalls will run continuously as part of the exhibition - Added an "Enterprise Adoption Planning" session and three groups in the Sidings (which isn't currently booked) - Specified a GT4 session as part of the EGEE track.
Throughout: - Renamed "Standards" as "Groups", to include RGs and other non-standards groups.
Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039
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Dear Dave, I read your proposal and I should it has still to be modified. - I see that the Grid Means Business (first slot) still clashes with the OGF-EGEE plenary --- As discussed in previous meetings, this is not what we aim for and I ask again to move it - I see that you use one parallel session of the usef forum (Thu morning) to host the GT4 track --- I fear it might be detrimental of the User Forum programme and I would refuse it. We discussed to have ~1.5 hours in parallel (i.e. a 5th session on Thursday and this offer would be still valid - I see that the EAP has appeared on Thu (as a parallel session) You know that the Thursday programme is the central part of our event, therefore I must be protective. On the other hand, I would like to make a "counterproposal". 1) Run (5th parallel session) on Thu morning (full morning) EAP and other session dedicated to business (Grid Means Business now clashing with the Web plenary?) 2) Move back the GT4 earlier in the week I think this would be a good option to rationalise the programme, minimising clashes and stimulating partners to attend to the combined OFG-EGEE event. Massimo ________________________________ From: ogf20pc-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogf20pc-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Berry Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 15:56 To: ogf20pc@ogf.org Subject: [ogf20pc] Possible changes to overall timetable FYI, I've been discussing some possible changes to the overall timetable of OGF20, as shown in the attached spreadsheet. This is all still beinng discussed, e.g. at a meeting of the OGF event management commitee tomorrow. Comments welcome. The changes in this spreadsheet are as follows: Monday: - Reserved some of the workshop sessions for Wolfgang's Community Grids workshop - Minor change to OGC workshop Tuesday: - Squeezed in an extra plenary by shortening the lunch time - Moved a GIN session here from Wednesday - Specifed the requirements workshops and an EGR WG session Wednesday: - Replaced two group sessions with the Requirements Roll-up and TSC report sessions - Replaced a GIN session (moved to Tuesday) with a GLite developer session - Added UK to the list of morning speakers (i.e. 30 mins each for UK e-Science, OGF & EGEE) Thursday: - Removed the separate Exhibit tear-down / EGEE set up, as EGEE stalls will run continuously as part of the exhibition - Added an "Enterprise Adoption Planning" session and three groups in the Sidings (which isn't currently booked) - Specified a GT4 session as part of the EGEE track. Throughout: - Renamed "Standards" as "Groups", to include RGs and other non-standards groups. Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039
Hi Dave, I've just spotted another change: the Wednesday morning plenary was supposed to be EGEE and OGF - I don't remember having discussed to add an e-Science speaker there. This was supposed to be on Tuesday. Cheers, -- Erwin ________________________________ From: ogf20pc-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogf20pc-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Massimo Lamanna Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:22 PM To: David Berry Cc: ogf20pc@ogf.org; Frank Harris Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Possible changes to overall timetable Dear Dave, I read your proposal and I should it has still to be modified. - I see that the Grid Means Business (first slot) still clashes with the OGF-EGEE plenary --- As discussed in previous meetings, this is not what we aim for and I ask again to move it - I see that you use one parallel session of the usef forum (Thu morning) to host the GT4 track --- I fear it might be detrimental of the User Forum programme and I would refuse it. We discussed to have ~1.5 hours in parallel (i.e. a 5th session on Thursday and this offer would be still valid - I see that the EAP has appeared on Thu (as a parallel session) You know that the Thursday programme is the central part of our event, therefore I must be protective. On the other hand, I would like to make a "counterproposal". 1) Run (5th parallel session) on Thu morning (full morning) EAP and other session dedicated to business (Grid Means Business now clashing with the Web plenary?) 2) Move back the GT4 earlier in the week I think this would be a good option to rationalise the programme, minimising clashes and stimulating partners to attend to the combined OFG-EGEE event. Massimo ________________________________ From: ogf20pc-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ogf20pc-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Berry Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 15:56 To: ogf20pc@ogf.org Subject: [ogf20pc] Possible changes to overall timetable FYI, I've been discussing some possible changes to the overall timetable of OGF20, as shown in the attached spreadsheet. This is all still beinng discussed, e.g. at a meeting of the OGF event management commitee tomorrow. Comments welcome. The changes in this spreadsheet are as follows: Monday: - Reserved some of the workshop sessions for Wolfgang's Community Grids workshop - Minor change to OGC workshop Tuesday: - Squeezed in an extra plenary by shortening the lunch time - Moved a GIN session here from Wednesday - Specifed the requirements workshops and an EGR WG session Wednesday: - Replaced two group sessions with the Requirements Roll-up and TSC report sessions - Replaced a GIN session (moved to Tuesday) with a GLite developer session - Added UK to the list of morning speakers (i.e. 30 mins each for UK e-Science, OGF & EGEE) Thursday: - Removed the separate Exhibit tear-down / EGEE set up, as EGEE stalls will run continuously as part of the exhibition - Added an "Enterprise Adoption Planning" session and three groups in the Sidings (which isn't currently booked) - Specified a GT4 session as part of the EGEE track. Throughout: - Renamed "Standards" as "Groups", to include RGs and other non-standards groups. Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039
Hi Massimo, Dave,
I read your proposal and I should it has still to be modified. - I see that the Grid Means Business (first slot) still clashes with the OGF-EGEE plenary --- As discussed in previous meetings, this is not what we aim for and I ask again to move it
This does seem sensible - the other keynotes are unopposed. The question is where you move the other Grid Means Business slot. In my opinion, if we want to get get good crossover between the OGF and EGEE folks, we need to run parallel sessions on the Thursday. That way OGF people would stick around on the Thursday and EGEE folks would get good interaction with OGF.
- I see that you use one parallel session of the usef forum (Thu morning) to host the GT4 track --- I fear it might be detrimental of the User Forum programme and I would refuse it. We discussed to have ~1.5 hours in parallel (i.e. a 5th session on Thursday and this offer would be still valid
Would it be better if we defined the Developer Track sessions explicitly so that people could make better decisions? Then they could run alongside the EGEE User Forum sessions. I participated in the GT4 Software Forum event earlier today at OGF19 and it became clear that there were two things that could be done a similar session at OGF20 that would be of great benefit to the community: a session looking at community best practice for admin/deployment and something similar to today's session, diving down in detail to some key components. Now these could take anything from 3 hours to 3 days so one option would be to run it at a separate co-located workshop. However, I don't think it would be a bad thing to run it on the Thursday - it might mean people could mix and match between Developer Track and EGEE User Forum sessions. Jen Schopf is leading the Globus outreach including coordination for Manchester and she's around in Chapel Hill if you want to discuss options. My 2p - worth quite a lot in Chapel Hill at the current exchange rates :-) Apologies if I've opened up old debates from before I joined the PC. cheers, neil
Regarding:
... a session looking at community best practice for admin/deployment and something similar to today's session, diving down in detail to some key components.
I'm happy to share Micron's experiences managing around 12k Windows machines on our grid. It's nothing fancy, just a web-based admin console and network based configs coupled with client-based auto-detect and refresh of local configs. But it works with very little admin overhead and across 7 sites with 11 pools (pool=grid with common resource broker). We using the Microsoft System Installer (MSI) and Altiris to package and push new versions which is also pretty painless. ~Brooklin
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neil p chue hong