Hi Massimo, In general, I would have thought that demos would not require inbound connectivity. I'm trying to flush out any exceptions to the general case now. We are already planning on wired connections to the demonstrations. There will be some cost implications due to cabling and ducting and getting wires to each demonstration and each exhibition booth that needs it. (The cost is not negligible if the venues' default costing model -- per each -- is applied, so we'll have to work on that.) We're negotiating on the basis of 1 Gbps. This is consistent with scaling up usage traces from OGF19 last week, and assuming that GGF16 was over-provisioned at 2 x 1 Gbps. Stephen
-----Original Message----- From: Massimo Lamanna [mailto:Massimo.Lamanna@cern.ch] Sent: 08 February 2007 16:49 To: Kristina Ulrika Gunne; Stephen.Pickles@manchester.ac.uk; ogf20pc@ogf.org; Steven Newhouse Cc: Erwin Laure; Massimo Lamanna Subject: RE: Network question
Hi Stephen et al., In general we do not require inbound connectivity. The typical pattern is connecting and driving the demo via a web service located elsewhere.
I would like that the connection for demo (~20) could be copper instead of wifi to protect them from network instabilities. Since anyway a "cable" has to pulled to the exhibition room, this should not add to the complexity (and cost) in any significant way.
I agree on the assumption of IPv4 only.
What is the uplink capacity you are negotiating?
With my best regards, Massimo
-----Original Message----- From: Kristina Ulrika Gunne Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 14:31 To: Stephen.Pickles@manchester.ac.uk; ogf20pc@ogf.org; Steven Newhouse Cc: Massimo Lamanna; Erwin Laure Subject: RE: Network question Importance: High
Hi Stephen,
I forward this request to the more technical people who I hope can answer your questions.
Best regards,
Kristina
-----Original Message----- From: Stephen M Pickles [mailto:Stephen.Pickles@manchester.ac.uk] Sent: 08 February 2007 14:29 To: ogf20pc@ogf.org; Kristina Ulrika Gunne; Steven Newhouse Subject: Network question
All,
A question has arisen regarding the network provision at OGF20 and EGEE-UF 2.
Is anyone likely to be running a demonstration in the exhibition that will involve incoming connections?
We need to be able to provide up to 900 or so IP addresses. If all connections will be outgoing, it should be possible to do this using Network Address Translation. If some connections will be incoming, then it is likely that real IP addresses will be needed.
An early response will be very helpful. Obtaining 900+ real IP addresses will require some negotiation and cannot be guaranteed at this stage. Adopting a hybrid solution of NAT for wireless and real IP addresses for wired ethernet to the booths is possible, but would add complexity to the network design and configuration.
Stephen
PS We're assuming IPV6 will not be required.
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