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Re: [ogf20pc] Summary of rankings received
by Dave Berry 21 Feb '07

21 Feb '07

Yes - I'll send out full notes of yesterday's meeting this evening. Dave. > -----Original Message----- > From: David Wallom [mailto:david.wallom@oerc.ox.ac.uk] > Sent: 21 February 2007 11:49 > To: Dave Berry; ogf20pc(a)ogf.org > Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Summary of rankings received > > Hi Martin and Stephen, > > During last night we agreed that both of these should come > into the Campus > Grids workshop and so I will be communicating with the proposer ASAP. > There were two other areas where this was considered the > case, Computational > Steering and Astro. > > Regards > > David > > > On 21/2/07 11:42, "Stephen M Pickles" > <Stephen.Pickles(a)manchester.ac.uk> > wrote: > > > The problem with these proposals is not Condor, > > it's the narrowness of the scope, and lack of > > context. > > > > It can't go in the developer's track, because > > the presenters don't speak for Condor. > > > > However, I'm sure that these guys have some > > valuable lessons to share about their experiences > > with Condor. The scope and context problems would > > be solved by putting them in the Campus Grid > > workshop. > > > > Stephen > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ogf20pc-bounces(a)ogf.org > >> [mailto:ogf20pc-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Walker, Martin > >> Antony (HPTC) > >> Sent: 21 February 2007 11:23 > >> To: Dave Berry; ogf20pc(a)ogf.org > >> Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Summary of rankings received > >> > >> Dave, > >> > >> A comment on the Condor ranking (lowest rank, but very high > >> deviation): > >> Condor is to my knowledge the only open-source grid middleware tool > >> being used in industry for production grids, both in America > >> and Europe. > >> I would have thought this should significantly increase > the ranking of > >> these two proposals. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> Martin > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ogf20pc-bounces(a)ogf.org > >> [mailto:ogf20pc-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf > >> Of Dave Berry > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:49 PM > >> To: ogf20pc(a)ogf.org > >> Subject: [ogf20pc] Summary of rankings received > >> > >> Dear PC, > >> > >> I attach a summary of rankings received so far. The > spreadsheet shows > >> the mean and standard deviation for each proposal. > >> > >> This includes rankinngs received from: Fotis karayannis, > Kimmo Koski, > >> Stephen Pickles, John Brooke, John O'Callaghan, Roger Barlow, > >> Jysoo Lee, > >> John Easton, Rob Procter, Erwin Laure, Neil Chue Hong, Jim Austin, > >> Steven Newhouse, Rizos Sakellariou, Bob Cohen, Stephanie > Parker, Dave > >> Berry. > >> > >> Dave Berry > >> Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National > >> e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street > >> Edinburgh, EH8 9AA Tel: +44 131 651 4039 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> ogf20pc mailing list > >> ogf20pc(a)ogf.org > >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf20pc > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ogf20pc mailing list > > ogf20pc(a)ogf.org > > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf20pc > > > > -- > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Dr. David Wallom > Technical Manager > Oxford e-Research Centre > University of Oxford > 7 Keble Road > Oxford > OX1 3QG > > Tel : +44 (0)1865 610601 > email: david.wallom(a)oerc.ox.ac.uk > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >

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Summary of rankings received
by Dave Berry 21 Feb '07

21 Feb '07

Dear PC, I attach a summary of rankings received so far. The spreadsheet shows the mean and standard deviation for each proposal. This includes rankinngs received from: Fotis karayannis, Kimmo Koski, Stephen Pickles, John Brooke, John O'Callaghan, Roger Barlow, Jysoo Lee, John Easton, Rob Procter, Erwin Laure, Neil Chue Hong, Jim Austin, Steven Newhouse, Rizos Sakellariou, Bob Cohen, Stephanie Parker, Dave Berry. Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street Edinburgh, EH8 9AA Tel: +44 131 651 4039

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OGF20 community submissions for ranking
by Dave Berry 20 Feb '07

20 Feb '07

Dear PC, Please find attached a spreadsheet that summarises the proposals received via the CFP. Our immediate task is to rank the submissions on the first sheet, which lists the workshop proposals. As discussed, please use the following ranking: 1 - Not suitable for OGF. 2 - A session that fails some of the criteria and should only be included if we need to fill slots. 3 - A good session that fits all or most of the criteria; to be included if slots is available. 4 - A good session that fits all the criteria; to be included if possible. 5 - An excellent session that should be included no matter what Do add comments where appropriate, e.g. if you wish to recommend merging with another session, or accepting with fewer sessions. Please mail your rankings to me and I will summarise. We will discuss the results on next Tuesday's call. Note: non-workshop proposals have been moved to the other sheets - Enterprise sessions, Grid Means Business, and Other. Please note that these sheets do not show the complete line-up for these tracks; only those submitted via the CFP. Best wishes, Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039

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Re: [ogf20pc] OGF20 community submissions for ranking
by Dave Berry 20 Feb '07

20 Feb '07

Hi Stephen, The criteria I suggested before last week's telcon were the relevance to Grid, the international scope, the quality of the content and the relevance to OGF. I'm happy to consider other criteria that people wish to suggest. Best wishes, Dave. > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen M Pickles [mailto:Stephen.Pickles@manchester.ac.uk] > Sent: 19 February 2007 13:53 > To: Dave Berry; ogf20pc(a)ogf.org > Subject: RE: [ogf20pc] OGF20 community submissions for ranking > > Dave, > > Is there a definitive list of criteria against which > these proposals should be ranked? > > Stephen > > > ________________________________ > > From: ogf20pc-bounces(a)ogf.org > [mailto:ogf20pc-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Berry > Sent: 15 February 2007 12:41 > To: ogf20pc(a)ogf.org > Subject: [ogf20pc] OGF20 community submissions for ranking > > > Dear PC, > > Please find attached a spreadsheet that summarises the > proposals received via the CFP. Our immediate task is to > rank the submissions on the first sheet, which lists the > workshop proposals. As discussed, please use the following ranking: > > 1 - Not suitable for OGF. > 2 - A session that fails some of the criteria and > should only be included if we need to fill slots. > 3 - A good session that fits all or most of the > criteria; to be included if slots is available. > 4 - A good session that fits all the criteria; to be > included if possible. > 5 - An excellent session that should be included no matter what > > Do add comments where appropriate, e.g. if you wish to > recommend merging with another session, or accepting with > fewer sessions. > > Please mail your rankings to me and I will summarise. > We will discuss the results on next Tuesday's call. > > Note: non-workshop proposals have been moved to the > other sheets - Enterprise sessions, Grid Means Business, and > Other. Please note that these sheets do not show the > complete line-up for these tracks; only those submitted via the CFP. > > Best wishes, > > Dave Berry > Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development > National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street > Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039 > >

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PC telcon today
by Dave Berry 20 Feb '07

20 Feb '07

A reminder that we have a telcon scheduled for 11 hours from now, at 2pm PST / 4pm PST / 5pm EST / 10pm GMT / 11pm CET / 7am JST / 8am Sydney We are due to announce which workshops we have accepted by the end of this week. Later today I will circulate a summary of the ratings I've received so far for the workshop proposals. I will also circulate an update on the Grid Means Business track. The dialin details are as before: International dialin: +44 145 254 2309 USA Freephone: 1 866 838 0046 UK number: 0845 245 0224 Australia Freephone: 180 010 9603 Passcode: 275359 Best wishes, Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039

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Rankings of proposed sessions
by Robert Cohen 20 Feb '07

20 Feb '07

Dave, Here are my rankings. I think the enterprise sessions are not described correctly. None of the enterprise requirements sessions are included. Bob

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RANKING FOR e-Science Track
by Stephanie Parker 19 Feb '07

19 Feb '07

Dear Dave, Dear All, please find attached my rankings and a few comments. many thanks, Stephanie Stephanie Parker, EGEE-II Metaware SpA, Via F. Turati, 43-45 56125 Pisa Tel: +39 050 3871475 Fax: +39 050 3871401 Mobile: +39 347 2452814 e-mail: s.parker(a)metaware.it <mailto:s.parker@metaware.it> Website: www.eu-egee.org/

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Re: [ogf20pc] Today's telcon
by Dave Berry 15 Feb '07

15 Feb '07

Hi Erwin, There are fewer than 48 proposals, as some proposals requested more than one session. I realise that we won't be able to consider every proposal in detail but I would like to briefly consider each one, seeing in which track they would best fit. I agree that a more detailed consideration will have to take place off-line. I would also like to see whether we want to respond to some proposers with alternative possibilities. E.g. for some, we might ask whether they would consider running in fewer sessions. For others, we might suggest they are more appropriate as group sessions, or that they give a presentation in the Grids Mean Business track instead of running in a separate session. Best wishes, Dave. > -----Original Message----- > From: Erwin Laure [mailto:Erwin.Laure@cern.ch] > Sent: 13 February 2007 14:47 > To: Dave Berry > Cc: ogf20pc(a)ogf.org > Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Today's telcon > > Hi Dave, > > Do you really want to do that online in the phone conference? Going > online through all the 48 proposals will probably not be very > efficient. > Also, I doubt many of us had the chance to carefully look > into them (at > least, I wasn't able to do so, yet). > > May I propose to do an off-line ranking according to your > suggestion in > the coming days (say until Friday) and then discuss the > ranked results > in the PC meeting? > > Cheers, > > -- Erwin > > Dave Berry wrote: > > A reminder that we have a telcon today, at 9am PST / 11am > CST / 12am EST > > / 5pm GMT / 6pm CET / 2am JST / 3am Sydney. > > > > I want to go through the community proposals. For each proposal, I > > suggest we first decide whether it falls under the remit of > e-Science, > > Enterprise, or other. Then I'd like to rate each proposal from 1-5 > > according to the scale below, ignoring whether we can schedule the > > event. We should also decide whether the content could be > suitable for > > another type of sessions, e.g. a Group Session, Grid Means > Business, or > > the Developer track. > > > > When rating proposals, we should consider the relevance to > Grid, the > > international scope, the quality of the content and the > relevance to OGF. > > > > Ratings: > > 1 - Not suitable for OGF. > > 2 - A session that fails some of the criteria and should only be > > included if we need to fill slots. > > 3 - A good session that fits all or most of the criteria; > to be included > > if slots is available. > > 4 - A good session that fits all the criteria; to be > included if possible. > > 5 - An excellent session that should be included no matter what > > > > The dialin details are as before: > > International dialin: +44 145 254 2309 > > USA Freephone: 1 866 838 0046 > > UK number: 0845 245 0224 > > Australia Freephone: 180 010 9603 > > > > Passcode: 275359 > > > > Dave Berry > > Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development > > National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street > > Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039 > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ogf20pc mailing list > > ogf20pc(a)ogf.org > > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf20pc >

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Re: [ogf20pc] Community proposals summary
by Dave Berry 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

Dear Hannelore, The detailed submissions can be viewed on GridForge. Please use the link that \Jullie sent around: http://www.ogf.org/gf/admin/commprop.php?event_id=7&key=b020bdc695. Best wishes, Dave. > -----Original Message----- > From: Hannelore Hammerle [mailto:Hannelore.Hammerle@cern.ch] > Sent: 13 February 2007 15:00 > To: Dave Berry; ogf20pc(a)ogf.org > Subject: RE: [ogf20pc] Community proposals summary > > Dear Dave, > > Looking at the material you sent around this morning, I saw > only one detailed workshop description - the doc-file you > sent only had the titles of (30?) proposed workshops. Should > we decide on the basis of this or do you have more detailed > information? > > May I also suggest a speaker for a high-level, plenary-like > talk? Stefano Beco from DATAMAT has been working with EGEE > and could give a unique perspective of how his company > adopted Grid technology and is using it in an industry context. > > Speak to you soon, > > Best, > > Hannelore > __________ > > Hannelore Hämmerle > CERN > EGEE Dissemination, Outreach and Communication Manager > + 41 22 767 41 76 > Hannelore.hammerle(a)cern.ch > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ogf20pc-bounces(a)ogf.org > > [mailto:ogf20pc-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Berry > > Sent: 12 February 2007 23:55 > > To: ogf20pc(a)ogf.org > > Subject: [ogf20pc] Community proposals summary > > > > Dear PC members > > > > I attach a summary of the proposals we have received. I > have filtered > > out those intended for the Grids Means Business Track and the > > Enterprise > > track. In addition, we received a couple by direct contact, which I > > attach. > > > > We have requests for 47 sessions and only 10 available, so > clearly we > > are spoilt for choice. (It seems that we could have easily > > supported a > > longer event). > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Dave Berry > > Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development > > National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street > > Edinburgh, EH8 9AA Tel: +44 131 651 4039 > > > > > > > > >

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Today's telcon
by Dave Berry 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

A reminder that we have a telcon today, at 9am PST / 11am CST / 12am EST / 5pm GMT / 6pm CET / 2am JST / 3am Sydney. I want to go through the community proposals. For each proposal, I suggest we first decide whether it falls under the remit of e-Science, Enterprise, or other. Then I'd like to rate each proposal from 1-5 according to the scale below, ignoring whether we can schedule the event. We should also decide whether the content could be suitable for another type of sessions, e.g. a Group Session, Grid Means Business, or the Developer track. When rating proposals, we should consider the relevance to Grid, the international scope, the quality of the content and the relevance to OGF. Ratings: 1 - Not suitable for OGF. 2 - A session that fails some of the criteria and should only be included if we need to fill slots. 3 - A good session that fits all or most of the criteria; to be included if slots is available. 4 - A good session that fits all the criteria; to be included if possible. 5 - An excellent session that should be included no matter what The dialin details are as before: International dialin: +44 145 254 2309 USA Freephone: 1 866 838 0046 UK number: 0845 245 0224 Australia Freephone: 180 010 9603 Passcode: 275359 Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039

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