Question about Compute instance action
Dear OCCI-Workgroup, i have a question concerning the OCCI Compute instance actions. Comparing to the Amazon EC2-API, OCCI obviously delivers no action to terminate an Instance. Terminating in the Amazon-API means, that the instance is shut down and won´t be visible after one hour. The Action you listed in the GFD-P-R.184 on page 5 gives only the possibility to hibernate or suspend. Is that the same or am I just confused :) ? Thanks for clearing that up for me !!! Feel free to answer in German :) Keep up the good work, Kind regards, Kim Rohner
Hi Kim, The required functionality is in the specification as an Action against an instance specified by its URL. Please see Section 3.1 (table 3, 2nd row) of the Infrastructure specification [1] and also the Core specification [2] for more details on Actions. 'stop' will result in termination. In [3] there are examples of such Actions (e.g. pg 11). On review of the noted sections there is no explicit specification of a stop-terminate state change as you note. It's a good catch and the Infrastructure specification will be updated to reflect this, should no one else here have an objection to the change? Thanks! Andy andy.edmonds.be [1] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.184.pdf [2] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.183.pdf [3] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.185.pdf On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 16:43, Kim Rohner <KimRohner@web.de> wrote:
Dear OCCI-Workgroup,
i have a question concerning the OCCI Compute instance actions.
Comparing to the Amazon EC2-API, OCCI obviously delivers no action to terminate an Instance. Terminating in the Amazon-API means, that the instance is shut down and won´t be visible after one hour. The Action you listed in the GFD-P-R.184 on page 5 gives only the possibility to hibernate or suspend.
Is that the same or am I just confused :) ?
Thanks for clearing that up for me !!!
Feel free to answer in German :)
Keep up the good work,
Kind regards, Kim Rohner _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
Would the "stop-terminate" state be equivalent to a stop Action followed by a removal of the Compute instance? The state diagram in [1] page 6 has shows the "stop" action changing the state from Active to Inactive. You mean to add another state Andy? regards, Ralf On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:25:49 +0200, Andy Edmonds <andy@edmonds.be> wrote:
Hi Kim, The required functionality is in the specification as an Action against an instance specified by its URL. Please see Section 3.1 (table 3, 2nd row) of the Infrastructure specification [1] and also the Core specification [2] for more details on Actions. 'stop' will result in termination. In [3] there are examples of such Actions (e.g. pg 11). On review of the noted sections there is no explicit specification of a stop-terminate state change as you note. It's a good catch and the Infrastructure specification will be updated to reflect this, should no one else here have an objection to the change?
Thanks!
Andy andy.edmonds.be
[1] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.184.pdf [2] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.183.pdf [3] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.185.pdf
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 16:43, Kim Rohner <KimRohner@web.de> wrote:
Dear OCCI-Workgroup,
i have a question concerning the OCCI Compute instance actions.
Comparing to the Amazon EC2-API, OCCI obviously delivers no action to terminate an Instance. Terminating in the Amazon-API means, that the instance is shut down and won´t be visible after one hour. The Action you listed in the GFD-P-R.184 on page 5 gives only the possibility to hibernate or suspend.
Is that the same or am I just confused :) ?
Thanks for clearing that up for me !!!
Feel free to answer in German :)
Keep up the good work,
Kind regards, Kim Rohner _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
A method - the transition from inactive to terminal state would be 'terminate'. The action of 'stop' and http-delete is certainly the only way to do it currently but as Kim's question shows, this is perhaps not particularly intuitive. -----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Ralf Nyren Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:05 PM To: Andy Edmonds Cc: Kim Rohner; occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Question about Compute instance action Would the "stop-terminate" state be equivalent to a stop Action followed by a removal of the Compute instance? The state diagram in [1] page 6 has shows the "stop" action changing the state from Active to Inactive. You mean to add another state Andy? regards, Ralf On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:25:49 +0200, Andy Edmonds <andy@edmonds.be> wrote:
Hi Kim, The required functionality is in the specification as an Action against an instance specified by its URL. Please see Section 3.1 (table 3, 2nd row) of the Infrastructure specification [1] and also the Core specification [2] for more details on Actions. 'stop' will result in termination. In [3] there are examples of such Actions (e.g. pg 11). On review of the noted sections there is no explicit specification of a stop-terminate state change as you note. It's a good catch and the Infrastructure specification will be updated to reflect this, should no one else here have an objection to the change?
Thanks!
Andy andy.edmonds.be
[1] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.184.pdf [2] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.183.pdf [3] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.185.pdf
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 16:43, Kim Rohner <KimRohner@web.de> wrote:
Dear OCCI-Workgroup,
i have a question concerning the OCCI Compute instance actions.
Comparing to the Amazon EC2-API, OCCI obviously delivers no action to terminate an Instance. Terminating in the Amazon-API means, that the instance is shut down and won´t be visible after one hour. The Action you listed in the GFD-P-R.184 on page 5 gives only the possibility to hibernate or suspend.
Is that the same or am I just confused :) ?
Thanks for clearing that up for me !!!
Feel free to answer in German :)
Keep up the good work,
Kind regards, Kim Rohner _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
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A method - the transition from inactive to terminal state would be 'terminate'. The action of 'stop' and http-delete is certainly the only way to do it currently but as Kim's question shows, this is perhaps not particularly intuitive.
-----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Ralf Nyren Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:05 PM To: Andy Edmonds Cc: Kim Rohner; occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Question about Compute instance action
Would the "stop-terminate" state be equivalent to a stop Action followed by a removal of the Compute instance?
The state diagram in [1] page 6 has shows the "stop" action changing the state from Active to Inactive. You mean to add another state Andy?
regards, Ralf
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:25:49 +0200, Andy Edmonds <andy@edmonds.be> wrote:
Hi Kim, The required functionality is in the specification as an Action against an instance specified by its URL. Please see Section 3.1 (table 3, 2nd row) of the Infrastructure specification [1] and also the Core specification [2] for more details on Actions. 'stop' will result in termination. In [3]
Yes, agreed on the non-intuitive part :) Is it provider specific what happens if you http-delete a running Compute instance? It could be equivalent to the stop-terminate case... Using Actions to Create/Delete Resource instances seems to push to usage of actions a bit to far IMO. /Ralf On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:13:51 +0000, "Edmonds, AndrewX" <andrewx.edmonds@intel.com> wrote: there
are examples of such Actions (e.g. pg 11). On review of the noted sections there is no explicit specification of a stop-terminate state change as you note. It's a good catch and the Infrastructure specification will be updated to reflect this, should no one else here have an objection to the change?
Thanks!
Andy andy.edmonds.be
[1] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.184.pdf [2] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.183.pdf [3] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.185.pdf
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 16:43, Kim Rohner <KimRohner@web.de> wrote:
Dear OCCI-Workgroup,
i have a question concerning the OCCI Compute instance actions.
Comparing to the Amazon EC2-API, OCCI obviously delivers no action to terminate an Instance. Terminating in the Amazon-API means, that the instance is shut down and won´t be visible after one hour. The Action you listed in the GFD-P-R.184 on page 5 gives only the possibility to hibernate or suspend.
Is that the same or am I just confused :) ?
Thanks for clearing that up for me !!!
Feel free to answer in German :)
Keep up the good work,
Kind regards, Kim Rohner _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
Agreed. Perhaps as a note I can append "termination of a resource instance is performed using HTTP DELETE (see section x.y.z)"? -----Original Message----- From: Ralf Nyren [mailto:ralf@nyren.net] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:28 PM To: Edmonds, AndrewX Cc: Andy Edmonds; Kim Rohner; occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: RE: [occi-wg] Question about Compute instance action Yes, agreed on the non-intuitive part :) Is it provider specific what happens if you http-delete a running Compute instance? It could be equivalent to the stop-terminate case... Using Actions to Create/Delete Resource instances seems to push to usage of actions a bit to far IMO. /Ralf On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:13:51 +0000, "Edmonds, AndrewX" <andrewx.edmonds@intel.com> wrote:
A method - the transition from inactive to terminal state would be
'terminate'. The action of 'stop' and http-delete is certainly the only
way
to do it currently but as Kim's question shows, this is perhaps not
particularly intuitive.
-----Original Message-----
From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf
Of Ralf Nyren
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:05 PM
To: Andy Edmonds
Cc: Kim Rohner; occi-wg@ogf.org
Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Question about Compute instance action
Would the "stop-terminate" state be equivalent to a stop Action followed
by a removal of the Compute instance?
The state diagram in [1] page 6 has shows the "stop" action changing the
state from Active to Inactive. You mean to add another state Andy?
regards, Ralf
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:25:49 +0200, Andy Edmonds <andy@edmonds.be>
wrote:
Hi Kim,
The required functionality is in the specification as an Action against
an
instance specified by its URL. Please see Section 3.1 (table 3, 2nd
row)
of
the Infrastructure specification [1] and also the Core specification
[2]
for
more details on Actions. 'stop' will result in termination. In [3]
there
are
examples of such Actions (e.g. pg 11). On review of the noted sections
there
is no explicit specification of a stop-terminate state change as you
note.
It's a good catch and the Infrastructure specification will be updated
to
reflect this, should no one else here have an objection to the change?
Thanks!
Andy
andy.edmonds.be
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 16:43, Kim Rohner <KimRohner@web.de> wrote:
Dear OCCI-Workgroup,
i have a question concerning the OCCI Compute instance actions.
Comparing to the Amazon EC2-API,
OCCI obviously delivers no action to terminate an Instance.
Terminating
in the Amazon-API means, that the instance is shut down and won´t be
visible after one hour.
The Action you listed in the GFD-P-R.184 on page 5 gives only the
possibility to hibernate or suspend.
Is that the same or am I just confused :) ?
Thanks for clearing that up for me !!!
Feel free to answer in German :)
Keep up the good work,
Kind regards,
Kim Rohner
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Sounds good! /Ralf On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:16:47 +0200, Edmonds, AndrewX <andrewx.edmonds@intel.com> wrote:
Agreed. Perhaps as a note I can append "termination of a resource instance is performed using HTTP DELETE (see section x.y.z)"?
-----Original Message----- From: Ralf Nyren [mailto:ralf@nyren.net] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:28 PM To: Edmonds, AndrewX Cc: Andy Edmonds; Kim Rohner; occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: RE: [occi-wg] Question about Compute instance action
Yes, agreed on the non-intuitive part :)
Is it provider specific what happens if you http-delete a running Compute
instance? It could be equivalent to the stop-terminate case...
Using Actions to Create/Delete Resource instances seems to push to usage
of actions a bit to far IMO.
/Ralf
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:13:51 +0000, "Edmonds, AndrewX"
<andrewx.edmonds@intel.com> wrote:
A method - the transition from inactive to terminal state would be
'terminate'. The action of 'stop' and http-delete is certainly the only
way
to do it currently but as Kim's question shows, this is perhaps not
particularly intuitive.
-----Original Message-----
From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf
Of Ralf Nyren
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:05 PM
To: Andy Edmonds
Cc: Kim Rohner; occi-wg@ogf.org
Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Question about Compute instance action
Would the "stop-terminate" state be equivalent to a stop Action followed
by a removal of the Compute instance?
The state diagram in [1] page 6 has shows the "stop" action changing the
state from Active to Inactive. You mean to add another state Andy?
regards, Ralf
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:25:49 +0200, Andy Edmonds <andy@edmonds.be>
wrote:
Hi Kim,
The required functionality is in the specification as an Action against
an
instance specified by its URL. Please see Section 3.1 (table 3, 2nd
row)
of
the Infrastructure specification [1] and also the Core specification
[2]
for
more details on Actions. 'stop' will result in termination. In [3]
there
are
examples of such Actions (e.g. pg 11). On review of the noted sections
there
is no explicit specification of a stop-terminate state change as you
note.
It's a good catch and the Infrastructure specification will be updated
to
reflect this, should no one else here have an objection to the change?
Thanks!
Andy
andy.edmonds.be
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 16:43, Kim Rohner <KimRohner@web.de> wrote:
Dear OCCI-Workgroup,
i have a question concerning the OCCI Compute instance actions.
Comparing to the Amazon EC2-API,
OCCI obviously delivers no action to terminate an Instance.
Terminating
in the Amazon-API means, that the instance is shut down and won´t be
visible after one hour.
The Action you listed in the GFD-P-R.184 on page 5 gives only the
possibility to hibernate or suspend.
Is that the same or am I just confused :) ?
Thanks for clearing that up for me !!!
Feel free to answer in German :)
Keep up the good work,
Kind regards,
Kim Rohner
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