
Dear OCCI-WG, please remember that the JSON Rendering document is in your court for iteration. It probably would make sense to close this one before people disappear into the summer breaks? :) See http://redmine.ogf.org/issues/96 for details. Best, Andre. -- It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered that my Universal Remote Control did not, in fact, control the Universe. (Not even remotely.)

Hi Andre, I'm browsing that paper right now, since I'd like to use the JSON for my purpose. Can I suggest minor fixes, or the doc is substantially closed and just for approval? 2014-06-16 11:18 GMT+02:00 Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net>:
Dear OCCI-WG,
please remember that the JSON Rendering document is in your court for iteration. It probably would make sense to close this one before people disappear into the summer breaks? :)
See http://redmine.ogf.org/issues/96 for details.
Best, Andre.
-- It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered that my Universal Remote Control did not, in fact, control the Universe. (Not even remotely.) _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
-- Augusto Ciuffoletti Dipartimento di Informatica Università di Pisa 56100 - Pisa (Italy)

Dear Augusto, the document is certainly still open for editorial comments. What *normative* changes are accepted though is up to the group and authors to decide -- but significant normative changes would call for another round of public comments, so there is a procedural barrier here. Anyway, if that is needed, then better now than later... :) HtH, Andre. On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Augusto Ciuffoletti <augusto@di.unipi.it> wrote:
Hi Andre,
I'm browsing that paper right now, since I'd like to use the JSON for my purpose. Can I suggest minor fixes, or the doc is substantially closed and just for approval?
2014-06-16 11:18 GMT+02:00 Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net>:
Dear OCCI-WG,
please remember that the JSON Rendering document is in your court for iteration. It probably would make sense to close this one before people disappear into the summer breaks? :)
See http://redmine.ogf.org/issues/96 for details.
Best, Andre.
-- It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered that my Universal Remote Control did not, in fact, control the Universe. (Not even remotely.) _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
-- Augusto Ciuffoletti Dipartimento di Informatica Università di Pisa 56100 - Pisa (Italy)
-- It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered that my Universal Remote Control did not, in fact, control the Universe. (Not even remotely.)

I guarantee no normative proposals :-) (not by me, at least). There are several typos around, and the "by example" approach is not entirely satisfactory to me. Nothing to do with the normative content, again. 2014-06-19 16:22 GMT+02:00 Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net>:
Dear Augusto,
the document is certainly still open for editorial comments. What *normative* changes are accepted though is up to the group and authors to decide -- but significant normative changes would call for another round of public comments, so there is a procedural barrier here. Anyway, if that is needed, then better now than later... :)
HtH, Andre.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Augusto Ciuffoletti <augusto@di.unipi.it> wrote:
Hi Andre,
I'm browsing that paper right now, since I'd like to use the JSON for my purpose. Can I suggest minor fixes, or the doc is substantially closed and just for approval?
2014-06-16 11:18 GMT+02:00 Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net>:
Dear OCCI-WG,
please remember that the JSON Rendering document is in your court for iteration. It probably would make sense to close this one before people disappear into the summer breaks? :)
See http://redmine.ogf.org/issues/96 for details.
Best, Andre.
-- It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered that my Universal Remote Control did not, in fact, control the Universe. (Not even remotely.) _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
-- Augusto Ciuffoletti Dipartimento di Informatica Università di Pisa 56100 - Pisa (Italy)
-- It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered that my Universal Remote Control did not, in fact, control the Universe. (Not even remotely.)
-- Augusto Ciuffoletti Dipartimento di Informatica Università di Pisa 56100 - Pisa (Italy)

Those kind of comments are right on target -- the document token is at the authors at this point, exactly for editorial revision... :) Best, Andre. On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Augusto Ciuffoletti <augusto@di.unipi.it> wrote:
I guarantee no normative proposals :-) (not by me, at least).
There are several typos around, and the "by example" approach is not entirely satisfactory to me. Nothing to do with the normative content, again.
2014-06-19 16:22 GMT+02:00 Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net>:
Dear Augusto,
the document is certainly still open for editorial comments. What *normative* changes are accepted though is up to the group and authors to decide -- but significant normative changes would call for another round of public comments, so there is a procedural barrier here. Anyway, if that is needed, then better now than later... :)
HtH, Andre.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Augusto Ciuffoletti <augusto@di.unipi.it> wrote:
Hi Andre,
I'm browsing that paper right now, since I'd like to use the JSON for my purpose. Can I suggest minor fixes, or the doc is substantially closed and just for approval?
2014-06-16 11:18 GMT+02:00 Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net>:
Dear OCCI-WG,
please remember that the JSON Rendering document is in your court for iteration. It probably would make sense to close this one before people disappear into the summer breaks? :)
See http://redmine.ogf.org/issues/96 for details.
Best, Andre.
-- It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered that my Universal Remote Control did not, in fact, control the Universe. (Not even remotely.) _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
-- Augusto Ciuffoletti Dipartimento di Informatica Università di Pisa 56100 - Pisa (Italy)
-- It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered that my Universal Remote Control did not, in fact, control the Universe. (Not even remotely.)
-- Augusto Ciuffoletti Dipartimento di Informatica Università di Pisa 56100 - Pisa (Italy)
-- It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered that my Universal Remote Control did not, in fact, control the Universe. (Not even remotely.)

Here it is: that's to have a better document, not a different one. Here is the list of the fixes I propose: line 50: complimentary -> complementary line 83: "Thus messages can be delivered by e.g." -> "For instance messages can be delivered by using" line 88/89: "on the OCCI Core instances OCCI Kind, OCCI Mixin..." -> "on the OCCI Core instances, namely OCCI Kind, OCCI Mixin..." line 89: "include" -> "includes" line 90: "identified by OCCI Actions" -> "identified by an OCCI Action" line 93: "Attribute names consist of alphanumeric characters separated by dots. The dots define a namespace hierarchy" -> "Attribute names consist of alphanumeric *strings* separated by dots that define a namespace hierarchy" line 94: remove "as shown in the following example" line 105: replace "as shown in the following example" with ": Table 1 defines the object members" from line 106. The result is: == cut here == The OCCI Resource Instance Format consists of a JSON object: Table 1 defines the object members. Section 5.1 contains a detailed example == cut here == line 120: same as line 105 line 139: same as line 105 line 146: same as line 105 line 162: same as line 105 line 179; same as line 105 I mean that none of them has a normative impact: otherwise this is probably due to my misunderstanding. Bye Augusto 2014-06-19 16:45 GMT+02:00 Augusto Ciuffoletti <augusto@di.unipi.it>:
I guarantee no normative proposals :-) (not by me, at least).
There are several typos around, and the "by example" approach is not entirely satisfactory to me. Nothing to do with the normative content, again.
2014-06-19 16:22 GMT+02:00 Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net>:
Dear Augusto,
the document is certainly still open for editorial comments. What *normative* changes are accepted though is up to the group and authors to decide -- but significant normative changes would call for another round of public comments, so there is a procedural barrier here. Anyway, if that is needed, then better now than later... :)
HtH, Andre.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Augusto Ciuffoletti <augusto@di.unipi.it> wrote:
Hi Andre,
I'm browsing that paper right now, since I'd like to use the JSON for my purpose. Can I suggest minor fixes, or the doc is substantially closed and just for approval?
2014-06-16 11:18 GMT+02:00 Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net>:
Dear OCCI-WG,
please remember that the JSON Rendering document is in your court for iteration. It probably would make sense to close this one before people disappear into the summer breaks? :)
See http://redmine.ogf.org/issues/96 for details.
Best, Andre.
-- It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered that my Universal Remote Control did not, in fact, control the Universe. (Not even remotely.) _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
-- Augusto Ciuffoletti Dipartimento di Informatica Università di Pisa 56100 - Pisa (Italy)
-- It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered that my Universal Remote Control did not, in fact, control the Universe. (Not even remotely.)
-- Augusto Ciuffoletti Dipartimento di Informatica Università di Pisa 56100 - Pisa (Italy)
-- Augusto Ciuffoletti Dipartimento di Informatica Università di Pisa 56100 - Pisa (Italy)

Hi guys, OGF is still waiting on the revision of the document before it can go into publication. I guess summer break does not go nicely with boring document work :) Nevertheless, please don't let the document linger much longer... While I am on it, I would like to remind the OCCI group that OGF-42 is planned in London in early September [1], where a couple of topics are specifically depending on input from OCCI. Like, the DRMAA folx would like to finalize the OCCI bindings which are in limbo for quite a number of months, due to rather small unresolved items (such as how to render pagination). So please consider to show up to that event! Thanks, Andre. [1] https://www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/events/ogf-42 On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Augusto Ciuffoletti <augusto@di.unipi.it> wrote:
Here it is: that's to have a better document, not a different one.
Here is the list of the fixes I propose: line 50: complimentary -> complementary line 83: "Thus messages can be delivered by e.g." -> "For instance messages can be delivered by using" line 88/89: "on the OCCI Core instances OCCI Kind, OCCI Mixin..." -> "on the OCCI Core instances, namely OCCI Kind, OCCI Mixin..." line 89: "include" -> "includes" line 90: "identified by OCCI Actions" -> "identified by an OCCI Action" line 93: "Attribute names consist of alphanumeric characters separated by dots. The dots define a namespace hierarchy" -> "Attribute names consist of alphanumeric *strings* separated by dots that define a namespace hierarchy" line 94: remove "as shown in the following example" line 105: replace "as shown in the following example" with ": Table 1 defines the object members" from line 106. The result is: == cut here == The OCCI Resource Instance Format consists of a JSON object: Table 1 defines the object members. Section 5.1 contains a detailed example == cut here == line 120: same as line 105 line 139: same as line 105 line 146: same as line 105 line 162: same as line 105 line 179; same as line 105
I mean that none of them has a normative impact: otherwise this is probably due to my misunderstanding.
Bye
Augusto
2014-06-19 16:45 GMT+02:00 Augusto Ciuffoletti <augusto@di.unipi.it>:
I guarantee no normative proposals :-) (not by me, at least).
There are several typos around, and the "by example" approach is not entirely satisfactory to me. Nothing to do with the normative content, again.
2014-06-19 16:22 GMT+02:00 Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net>:
Dear Augusto,
the document is certainly still open for editorial comments. What *normative* changes are accepted though is up to the group and authors to decide -- but significant normative changes would call for another round of public comments, so there is a procedural barrier here. Anyway, if that is needed, then better now than later... :)
HtH, Andre.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Augusto Ciuffoletti <augusto@di.unipi.it> wrote:
Hi Andre,
I'm browsing that paper right now, since I'd like to use the JSON for my purpose. Can I suggest minor fixes, or the doc is substantially closed and just for approval?
2014-06-16 11:18 GMT+02:00 Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net>:
Dear OCCI-WG,
please remember that the JSON Rendering document is in your court for iteration. It probably would make sense to close this one before people disappear into the summer breaks? :)
See http://redmine.ogf.org/issues/96 for details.
Best, Andre.
-- It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered that my Universal Remote Control did not, in fact, control the Universe. (Not even remotely.) _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
-- Augusto Ciuffoletti Dipartimento di Informatica Università di Pisa 56100 - Pisa (Italy)
-- It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered that my Universal Remote Control did not, in fact, control the Universe. (Not even remotely.)
-- Augusto Ciuffoletti Dipartimento di Informatica Università di Pisa 56100 - Pisa (Italy)
-- Augusto Ciuffoletti Dipartimento di Informatica Università di Pisa 56100 - Pisa (Italy)
-- It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered that my Universal Remote Control did not, in fact, control the Universe. (Not even remotely.)
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