Hello Alan, On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 1:11 AM, Sill, Alan <alan.sill@ttu.edu> wrote:

Interest in holding a Cloud Plugfest in and/or centered around the attendees who will be there in person for the Lisbon EGI conference?

Please respond ASAP as this will affect whether I decide to go in person myself.

I encourage the OCCI group to meet in person at the co-located OGF 44 Thursday and Friday May 21-22 that week, regardless of the decision about the Cloud Plugfest. This is probably important for getting comment and visibility for the OCCI 1.2 documents as well as to take advantage of the opportunity to meet with OGF security area and network groups and with members of an important user community (EGI). Please consider this and respond with requests for meeting space ASAP.

I'm attending this event anyway, I would be happy to participate in any Plugfest/OCCI WG activities on Thursday/Friday.

Alan

Regards, Boris

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From: "Sill, Alan" <alan.sill@ttu.edu> Date: April 17, 2015 at 8:04:31 AM GMT+9 To: Tiziana Ferrari <tiziana.ferrari@egi.eu> Cc: Sara Coelho <sara.coelho@egi.eu>, Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net>, Andrew Grimshaw <grimshaw@virginia.edu> Subject: Re: Registrations and Rooms for the OGF44

Hi Tiziana and Sara,

Thanks for your message. I will poll the various area directors to see where they are in organizing meetings for groups in their respective areas.

I will also see if the OCCI group will have sufficient people to pull off a Cloud Plugfest.

Can you once again update us on the status of registrations?

Thanks, Alan

On Apr 17, 2015, at 2:57 AM, Tiziana Ferrari <tiziana.ferrari@egi.eu> wrote:

Dear Alan, all

we really need your feedback and also a programme to attach to OGF44 to make sure this co-location and the whole EGI event is a success.

Having empty blocks in the programme does not help to make the programme attractive, and we gave priority to OGF44 in selecting co-locations knowing it is important to us. We now want a complete programme on-line to advertise it and boost the registration process. We are only one month away from the start of the event.

Can you please get in touch with Sara as soon as possible? see her points below,

thanks

TIziana

On 15/04/15 12:46, Sara Coelho wrote:

Dear Alan,

(Andre and Andrew)

good morning!

I was wondering if you had time to have a look at my questions below,

especially the ones about technical requirements for the plugfest.

Thank you in advance.

Best wishes,

Sara

On 08/04/2015 17:34, Sara Coelho wrote:

Hi Alan,

As you correctly guessed, there is a cost consideration driving my

worries. In principle, we have nothing against a two-tracked,

two-day'ed OGF44. In practice, if the meeting does not attract

registrants... perhaps it's best to reduce the scope. (That is the

concern I tried to convey in my previous email.)

You propose a track for OGF and a track for the Cloud Plugfest - let's

go with this. If we need a second room for your programme, we can find

a place for the Plugfest to continue. Which brings me to my next

question...

What are your specific requirements?

- Space - as discussed above, we can find something

- Network - the venue is a university and has eduroam; plus, we will

have a dedicated wifi network for the participants. Is this enough? If

not, please let me know as soon as possible what else you requires, so

I can see what is possible to organise at this stage.

- Server support - I have no idea what this implies! Could you please

be a bit more specific?

Advertising the Cloud Plugfest - is this something I can help with? Or

is there anything else I can do to promote registrations?

Many thanks,

Sara

On 08/04/2015 17:15, Sill, Alan wrote:

Hi Sara,

We have positive feedback from several groups. I think two tracks is

the safest approach right now; one for the Cloud Plugfest and one for

OGF working group and community group meetings. If we need to borrow

space from the Cloud Plugfest to get a group meeting done, are there

other areas where participants can work with good networking and

reasonable isolation?

Cloud Plugfests often look like disasters in terms of organization

but are very helpful for all concerned. They are at their best when

we allow people time with laptops, networking and server support to

learn how to use, test and work on coding for implementations and to

interact with experts and other coders.

I am at the mercy of the groups requesting space. We have requests

from groups in the security area, which makes sense from the list

that you sent. I am trying to encourage other groups, such as OCCI

and GLUE, to meet there also, as well as our networking groups, the

most actie of which is currently NSI.

It will be a contraditction if we invite them to meet and do not have

space to do so. Are there cost considerations that are driving you

to want to reduce the number of tracks? Two tracks already seems

like pretty much a minimum. Keep in mind that OGF is composed of

several different groups that mostly do not overlap, so the common

interest to meet together in one area is driven by the convenience

and availability of working group and community group meeting space.

I can also inquire of the OCCIware project if they would like to meet

there, but again, space will have to be available.

How large are the rooms you are planning to use? Can they be divided

or combined as necessary to go from individual meeting room space to

larger plenary gatherings? Will there be an auditorium or other large

space available, and what portion if any of the EGI meeting itself

will still be going on at that time?

Alan

On Apr 8, 2015, at 4:33 AM, Sara Coelho <sara.coelho@egi.eu> wrote:

Dear Alan,

(and Andre & Andrew)

It took me a while to understand where your rum joke came from... :)

The difference single letters make in English never ceases to amaze me.

Thanks for your email and taking time to think about this - I know

it's a busy time! But I'm afraid your email leaves me with even more

questions...

- Do you need two parallel sessions over two days? I'm sorry to

insist, but this is a key question for us at the moment. We are

finalising room allocation and I am finding difficult to justify the

two rooms we reserved for OGF44 over two days, given the low number

of registrations and the lack of a programme/timetable, or even

details about the event. Will you develop a programme that requires

two parallel sessions over two days?

- The Cloud Plugfest, in principle, is welcome - we ran one of these

events before. In practice, I have two questions:

-- I assume this will be part of the OGF44 programme (i.e., it will

take a room currently reserved for the OGF44)? Please confirm.

-- You wrote...

It helps to have a sponsor for attendance for those who may want to

come only for this event, typically those in the developer

community. This is not required of course if those who will be

participating are already registered to attend the EGI Conference

itself.

What / who will be the theme and the audience for this Plugfest?

(Apologies if this is obvious but my I don't have a technical

background.)

- OGF44 programme: at the moment we don't have any information about

OGF44 in Indico. Could you please provide:

-- A summary of the event (short abstract, under 150 words)

-- An outline of the programme (with talks, etc.), or a link to your

events page

I think this is important to motivate people to register in your

event. At the moment with under 30 registrations and little else, is

difficult for me to convince the local organisers of the need to

keep two rooms reserved for you. Apologies if I sound

pushy/difficult, but we're 5 weeks away from the event and it's time

to get details in.

Below you can find the list of attendees registered in OGF44. Please

let me know if I can help in any way from this side.

Your feedback regarding the above is appreciated as soon as possible.

Best wishes,

Sara

Barros, Abmar (abmar@lsd.ufcg.edu.br)

Brasileiro, Francisco (fubica@dsc.ufcg.edu.br)

Cornwall, Linda (Linda.Cornwall@stfc.ac.uk)

Dias de Lima, Maria Julia (mjulia@tecgraf.puc-rio.br)

FRANC, Alain (alain.franc@pierroton.inra.fr)

FRIGERIO, Jean-Marc (Jean-Marc.Frigerio@pierroton.inra.fr)

Gomes, Hugo (hugo@lip.pt)

Gordon, John (john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk)

Groep, David (davidg@nikhef.nl)

Gurov, Todor (gurov@bas.bg)

Hluchy, Ladislav (ladislav.hluchy@savba.sk)

Kanellopoulos, Christos (skanct@grnet.gr)

Kelsey, David (david.kelsey@stfc.ac.uk)

Levshina, Tanya (tlevshin@fnal.gov)

Manzi, Andrea (andrea.manzi@cern.ch)

Marianos, Nikolaos (n.marianos@agroknow.gr)

Matsunaga, Hiroyuki (hiroyuki.matsunaga@kek.jp)

Parak, Boris (parak@cesnet.cz)

Pullinger, Stuart (stuart.pullinger@stfc.ac.uk)

Qing, Di (dqing@triumf.ca)

Sallé, Mischa (msalle@nikhef.nl)

Sitera, Jiri (sitera@civ.zcu.cz)

Spinoso, Vincenzo (vincenzo.spinoso@egi.eu)

Terstyanszky, Gabor (terstyg@gmail.com)

Tran, Viet (viet.ui@savba.sk)

Ururahy, Cristina (ururahy@tecgraf.puc-rio.br)

Wallom, David (david.wallom@oerc.ox.ac.uk)

YEN, Eric (eric@sinica.edu.tw)

On 07/04/2015 18:09, Sill, Alan wrote:

Dear Sara and Tiziana,

Having considered the issue quite carefully, we believe that rum in

only one track will be sufficient! Less jokingly, and please

forgive the bad attempt at humor, we have in mind to run one of our

Cloud Plugfest events during the conference, in which case having

the extra room will be helpful for those learning to use the test

environments and do interoperability and instance testing.

If you are willing to help us advertise the Cloud Plugfest

possibility, please see the list of past events on the web site at

http://cloudplugfest.org and let us know if you have any questions.

It helps to have a sponsor for attendance for those who may want to

come only for this event, typically those in the developer

community. This is not required of course if those who will be

participating are already registered to attend the EGI Conference

itself.

I am desperately busy with a semi-annual review for my center

(http://nsfcac.org) for the rest of the week, and will be traveling

to Japan all next week, so my communications will be uneven. Can

you please help me to coordinate with you and the other people who

will be coming for OGF by sending me the list of registrants so

far, and following with an update every few days or so as things

change or as you see fit?

I have sent a reminder message out tho the OGF work groups list and

also to the GFSG (Grid Forum Steering Group) to ask them to

register. One complication is that it is not completely certain

that I will be able to attend myself. I really hope to, as one of

the things we have been able to achieve in my center is the ability

to open participation in the interoperability testbed projects to

international participants, which I announced at CloudScape VII in

Brussels and Cloud Expo Europe in London last month, and would like

very much to make this real through participation and collaboration

with the EGI community. My travel schedule is however not

completely under my own control as it is dictated by the need for

me to interact frequently with NSF and our center members, so I

have asked for help from the GFSG and our area directors within it

to help coordinate the meeting requests there.

Please send a list of registrants if that is OK, and let's keep in

touch. I'm cc'ing Andre Merzky and Andrew Grimshaw of OGF also to

make sure that communications don't get lost. Please include them

on any mailings related to this event.

Alan

On Apr 7, 2015, at 10:22 AM, sara <sara.coelho@egi.eu> wrote:

Dear Alan,

Now that OGF 43 is out of your way, I would like to take a moment

of your time to discuss the arrangements for the OGF 44 in Lisbon.

We have reserved two rooms for two days (21-22 May) for your

event. So far, and with a week to go until the end of early bird

registration, we have 27 attendees registered for OGF. This is, at

first glance, a very low number for an event with two parallel

tracks.

Could you please confirm that you require two parallel tracks to

rum your event?

Could you give me an estimate of the number of people you are

expecting to attend OGF 44?

This will help me and the local team to optimise the rooms

reserved for your event. I know you must be busy but your feedback

is appreciated as soon as possible.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Best wishes

Sara

--

Sara Coelho

Communications, EGI.eu

--

Sara Coelho

Communications, EGI.eu

--

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Hi Alan and all, I am finally glad to announce that I will attend OGF 44. I would be interested in presenting the following topics: - an OCCI 1.2 testsuite dashboard in javascript/angular.js - erocci news - OCCIware news Philippe Merle, myself and other from OCCIware project have succesfully submitted a paper about a formal study of OCCI metamodel. It will be presented at CLOUDS conference in NYC. If possible, Philippe Merle would be interested in presenting the paper remotely, as he can not attend physically. Is it possible ? Regards, Jean Le jeudi 16 avril 2015 à 23:11 +0000, Sill, Alan a écrit :

Interest in holding a Cloud Plugfest in and/or centered around the attendees who will be there in person for the Lisbon EGI conference?

Please respond ASAP as this will affect whether I decide to go in person myself.

I encourage the OCCI group to meet in person at the co-located OGF 44 Thursday and Friday May 21-22 that week, regardless of the decision about the Cloud Plugfest. This is probably important for getting comment and visibility for the OCCI 1.2 documents as well as to take advantage of the opportunity to meet with OGF security area and network groups and with members of an important user community (EGI). Please consider this and respond with requests for meeting space ASAP.

Alan

Begin forwarded message:

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From: "Sill, Alan" <alan.sill@ttu.edu> Date: April 17, 2015 at 8:04:31 AM GMT+9 To: Tiziana Ferrari <tiziana.ferrari@egi.eu> Cc: Sara Coelho <sara.coelho@egi.eu>, Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net>, Andrew Grimshaw <grimshaw@virginia.edu> Subject: Re: Registrations and Rooms for the OGF44

Hi Tiziana and Sara,

Thanks for your message. I will poll the various area directors to see where they are in organizing meetings for groups in their respective areas.

I will also see if the OCCI group will have sufficient people to pull off a Cloud Plugfest.

Can you once again update us on the status of registrations?

Thanks, Alan

...

On Apr 17, 2015, at 2:57 AM, Tiziana Ferrari <tiziana.ferrari@egi.eu> wrote:

Dear Alan, all

we really need your feedback and also a programme to attach to OGF44 to make sure this co-location and the whole EGI event is a success.

Having empty blocks in the programme does not help to make the programme attractive, and we gave priority to OGF44 in selecting co-locations knowing it is important to us. We now want a complete programme on-line to advertise it and boost the registration process. We are only one month away from the start of the event.

Can you please get in touch with Sara as soon as possible? see her points below,

thanks TIziana

...

On 15/04/15 12:46, Sara Coelho wrote: Dear Alan, (Andre and Andrew) good morning!

I was wondering if you had time to have a look at my questions below, especially the ones about technical requirements for the plugfest.

Thank you in advance.

Best wishes, Sara

...

On 08/04/2015 17:34, Sara Coelho wrote: Hi Alan,

As you correctly guessed, there is a cost consideration driving my worries. In principle, we have nothing against a two-tracked, two-day'ed OGF44. In practice, if the meeting does not attract registrants... perhaps it's best to reduce the scope. (That is the concern I tried to convey in my previous email.)

You propose a track for OGF and a track for the Cloud Plugfest - let's go with this. If we need a second room for your programme, we can find a place for the Plugfest to continue. Which brings me to my next question...

What are your specific requirements? - Space - as discussed above, we can find something - Network - the venue is a university and has eduroam; plus, we will have a dedicated wifi network for the participants. Is this enough? If not, please let me know as soon as possible what else you requires, so I can see what is possible to organise at this stage. - Server support - I have no idea what this implies! Could you please be a bit more specific?

Advertising the Cloud Plugfest - is this something I can help with? Or is there anything else I can do to promote registrations?

Many thanks, Sara

...

On 08/04/2015 17:15, Sill, Alan wrote: Hi Sara,

We have positive feedback from several groups. I think two tracks is the safest approach right now; one for the Cloud Plugfest and one for OGF working group and community group meetings. If we need to borrow space from the Cloud Plugfest to get a group meeting done, are there other areas where participants can work with good networking and reasonable isolation?

Cloud Plugfests often look like disasters in terms of organization but are very helpful for all concerned. They are at their best when we allow people time with laptops, networking and server support to learn how to use, test and work on coding for implementations and to interact with experts and other coders.

I am at the mercy of the groups requesting space. We have requests from groups in the security area, which makes sense from the list that you sent. I am trying to encourage other groups, such as OCCI and GLUE, to meet there also, as well as our networking groups, the most actie of which is currently NSI.

It will be a contraditction if we invite them to meet and do not have space to do so. Are there cost considerations that are driving you to want to reduce the number of tracks? Two tracks already seems like pretty much a minimum. Keep in mind that OGF is composed of several different groups that mostly do not overlap, so the common interest to meet together in one area is driven by the convenience and availability of working group and community group meeting space.

I can also inquire of the OCCIware project if they would like to meet there, but again, space will have to be available.

How large are the rooms you are planning to use? Can they be divided or combined as necessary to go from individual meeting room space to larger plenary gatherings? Will there be an auditorium or other large space available, and what portion if any of the EGI meeting itself will still be going on at that time?

Alan

> On Apr 8, 2015, at 4:33 AM, Sara Coelho > <sara.coelho@egi.eu> wrote: > > Dear Alan, > (and Andre & Andrew) > > It took me a while to understand where your rum joke came > from... :) > The difference single letters make in English never ceases > to amaze me. > > Thanks for your email and taking time to think about this > - I know > it's a busy time! But I'm afraid your email leaves me with > even more > questions... > > - Do you need two parallel sessions over two days? I'm > sorry to > insist, but this is a key question for us at the moment. > We are > finalising room allocation and I am finding difficult to > justify the > two rooms we reserved for OGF44 over two days, given the > low number > of registrations and the lack of a programme/timetable, or > even > details about the event. Will you develop a programme that > requires > two parallel sessions over two days? > > - The Cloud Plugfest, in principle, is welcome - we ran > one of these > events before. In practice, I have two questions: > -- I assume this will be part of the OGF44 programme > (i.e., it will > take a room currently reserved for the OGF44)? Please > confirm. > -- You wrote... > > It helps to have a sponsor for attendance for those who > may want to > come only for this event, typically those in the developer > community. This is not required of course if those who > will be > participating are already registered to attend the EGI > Conference > itself. > > What / who will be the theme and the audience for this > Plugfest? > (Apologies if this is obvious but my I don't have a > technical > background.) > > - OGF44 programme: at the moment we don't have any > information about > OGF44 in Indico. Could you please provide: > -- A summary of the event (short abstract, under 150 > words) > -- An outline of the programme (with talks, etc.), or a > link to your > events page > I think this is important to motivate people to register > in your > event. At the moment with under 30 registrations and > little else, is > difficult for me to convince the local organisers of the > need to > keep two rooms reserved for you. Apologies if I sound > pushy/difficult, but we're 5 weeks away from the event and > it's time > to get details in. > > Below you can find the list of attendees registered in > OGF44. Please > let me know if I can help in any way from this side. > > Your feedback regarding the above is appreciated as soon > as possible. > > Best wishes, > Sara > > Barros, Abmar (abmar@lsd.ufcg.edu.br) > Brasileiro, Francisco (fubica@dsc.ufcg.edu.br) > Cornwall, Linda (Linda.Cornwall@stfc.ac.uk) > Dias de Lima, Maria Julia (mjulia@tecgraf.puc-rio.br) > FRANC, Alain (alain.franc@pierroton.inra.fr) > FRIGERIO, Jean-Marc (Jean-Marc.Frigerio@pierroton.inra.fr) > Gomes, Hugo (hugo@lip.pt) > Gordon, John (john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk) > Groep, David (davidg@nikhef.nl) > Gurov, Todor (gurov@bas.bg) > Hluchy, Ladislav (ladislav.hluchy@savba.sk) > Kanellopoulos, Christos (skanct@grnet.gr) > Kelsey, David (david.kelsey@stfc.ac.uk) > Levshina, Tanya (tlevshin@fnal.gov) > Manzi, Andrea (andrea.manzi@cern.ch) > Marianos, Nikolaos (n.marianos@agroknow.gr) > Matsunaga, Hiroyuki (hiroyuki.matsunaga@kek.jp) > Parak, Boris (parak@cesnet.cz) > Pullinger, Stuart (stuart.pullinger@stfc.ac.uk) > Qing, Di (dqing@triumf.ca) > Sallé, Mischa (msalle@nikhef.nl) > Sitera, Jiri (sitera@civ.zcu.cz) > Spinoso, Vincenzo (vincenzo.spinoso@egi.eu) > Terstyanszky, Gabor (terstyg@gmail.com) > Tran, Viet (viet.ui@savba.sk) > Ururahy, Cristina (ururahy@tecgraf.puc-rio.br) > Wallom, David (david.wallom@oerc.ox.ac.uk) > YEN, Eric (eric@sinica.edu.tw) > > > > On 07/04/2015 18:09, Sill, Alan wrote: > > Dear Sara and Tiziana, > > > > Having considered the issue quite carefully, we believe > > that rum in > > only one track will be sufficient! Less jokingly, and > > please > > forgive the bad attempt at humor, we have in mind to run > > one of our > > Cloud Plugfest events during the conference, in which > > case having > > the extra room will be helpful for those learning to use > > the test > > environments and do interoperability and instance > > testing. > > > > If you are willing to help us advertise the Cloud > > Plugfest > > possibility, please see the list of past events on the > > web site at > > http://cloudplugfest.org and let us know if you have any > > questions. > > It helps to have a sponsor for attendance for those who > > may want to > > come only for this event, typically those in the > > developer > > community. This is not required of course if those who > > will be > > participating are already registered to attend the EGI > > Conference > > itself. > > > > I am desperately busy with a semi-annual review for my > > center > > (http://nsfcac.org) for the rest of the week, and will > > be traveling > > to Japan all next week, so my communications will be > > uneven. Can > > you please help me to coordinate with you and the other > > people who > > will be coming for OGF by sending me the list of > > registrants so > > far, and following with an update every few days or so > > as things > > change or as you see fit? > > > > I have sent a reminder message out tho the OGF work > > groups list and > > also to the GFSG (Grid Forum Steering Group) to ask them > > to > > register. One complication is that it is not completely > > certain > > that I will be able to attend myself. I really hope to, > > as one of > > the things we have been able to achieve in my center is > > the ability > > to open participation in the interoperability testbed > > projects to > > international participants, which I announced at > > CloudScape VII in > > Brussels and Cloud Expo Europe in London last month, and > > would like > > very much to make this real through participation and > > collaboration > > with the EGI community. My travel schedule is however > > not > > completely under my own control as it is dictated by the > > need for > > me to interact frequently with NSF and our center > > members, so I > > have asked for help from the GFSG and our area directors > > within it > > to help coordinate the meeting requests there. > > > > Please send a list of registrants if that is OK, and > > let's keep in > > touch. I'm cc'ing Andre Merzky and Andrew Grimshaw of > > OGF also to > > make sure that communications don't get lost. Please > > include them > > on any mailings related to this event. > > > > Alan > > > > > > > On Apr 7, 2015, at 10:22 AM, sara <sara.coelho@egi.eu> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Alan, > > > > > > Now that OGF 43 is out of your way, I would like to > > > take a moment > > > of your time to discuss the arrangements for the OGF > > > 44 in Lisbon. > > > > > > We have reserved two rooms for two days (21-22 May) > > > for your > > > event. So far, and with a week to go until the end of > > > early bird > > > registration, we have 27 attendees registered for OGF. > > > This is, at > > > first glance, a very low number for an event with two > > > parallel > > > tracks. > > > > > > Could you please confirm that you require two parallel > > > tracks to > > > rum your event? > > > Could you give me an estimate of the number of people > > > you are > > > expecting to attend OGF 44? > > > > > > This will help me and the local team to optimise the > > > rooms > > > reserved for your event. I know you must be busy but > > > your feedback > > > is appreciated as soon as possible. > > > > > > Please let me know if you have any questions. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Sara > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sara Coelho > > > Communications, EGI.eu > -- > Sara Coelho > Communications, EGI.eu

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