Afternoon all, Over the last few weeks I've been busy evangelising OCCI at various cloud computing events througout Europe: - Cloud Computing Expo - Prague (18, 19 May 2009) - Cloud Computing Expo - London (20, 21 May 2009) - Cloud Views Conference - Porto (28, 29 May 2009) In addition to doing the Introduction to the Open Cloud Computing Interface (OCCI) <http://docs.google.com/Presentation?id=ddqm27m2_298fsf9mqdg>presentation I had the opportunity to sit on panels at the events and to introduce "Interoperability" as the topic for Cloud Views 2010. It was great to meet many of you and to have various opportunities to discuss (often at length) the API - some great feedback was given and good progress made on working towards consensus. We've found ways to evict Atom from individual resources and adopt a simple key/value descriptor format for a start which should make some of you very happy. I also spent 90 minutes running through and discussing OCCI with the SNIA Cloud TWG at their last meeting (last week) which I think is a great opportunity for us to ensure that our respective standards are at least somewhat compatible and avoid a rerun of WS-* (I would hope for example that we can use an SNIA descriptor format to define non-trivial storage resources). Thijs is busy formalising this arrangement and a similar one with the DMTF and I encourage those of you who are interested in these projects to join them so we can get some cross-pollination going on (especially those of you employed by member companies - neither group is as open as we are). Anyway I'm back this week after my partner's surgery and between looking after her while she recovers over the course of the month I'm hoping we can make some good progress quickly. It's in all of our interests to deliver while we still have an opportunity to be relevant as the last thing we want is to end up playing follow the leader (regardless of whether the leader happens to be VMware via DMTF or Amazon with an "open" EC2). Cheers, Sam
Before anyone hops on the snia bandwagon as an advocate, we need to assess the "level" in cloud architecture that the snai api addresses. We need to ask the question is their api an IaaS level api or focuses at some other level. Or have we relegated ourselves to throwing everything we can find in a rubbish heap ? Incorrectly positioning functions and features can/will adversely affect success of the IaaS interoperability specification and the implementability of the OCCI IaaS api. I have included a diagram with a proposed division of responsibilities for each cloud layer. If someone would like to add it the to wiki for comment, it would be appreciated. ( my occi wiki permissions aren't quite right) Comments welcome, as aways. -gary Sam Johnston wrote:
Afternoon all,
Over the last few weeks I've been busy evangelising OCCI at various cloud computing events througout Europe:
* Cloud Computing Expo - Prague (18, 19 May 2009) * Cloud Computing Expo - London (20, 21 May 2009) * Cloud Views Conference - Porto (28, 29 May 2009)
In addition to doing the Introduction to the Open Cloud Computing Interface (OCCI) <http://docs.google.com/Presentation?id=ddqm27m2_298fsf9mqdg> presentation I had the opportunity to sit on panels at the events and to introduce "Interoperability" as the topic for Cloud Views 2010. It was great to meet many of you and to have various opportunities to discuss (often at length) the API - some great feedback was given and good progress made on working towards consensus. We've found ways to evict Atom from individual resources and adopt a simple key/value descriptor format for a start which should make some of you very happy.
I also spent 90 minutes running through and discussing OCCI with the SNIA Cloud TWG at their last meeting (last week) which I think is a great opportunity for us to ensure that our respective standards are at least somewhat compatible and avoid a rerun of WS-* (I would hope for example that we can use an SNIA descriptor format to define non-trivial storage resources). Thijs is busy formalising this arrangement and a similar one with the DMTF and I encourage those of you who are interested in these projects to join them so we can get some cross-pollination going on (especially those of you employed by member companies - neither group is as open as we are).
Anyway I'm back this week after my partner's surgery and between looking after her while she recovers over the course of the month I'm hoping we can make some good progress quickly. It's in all of our interests to deliver while we still have an opportunity to be relevant as the last thing we want is to end up playing follow the leader (regardless of whether the leader happens to be VMware via DMTF or Amazon with an "open" EC2).
Cheers,
Sam
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Hi Gary - I've just created a test user and assigned it the same permissions as you have. Using the account I've been able to successfully edit the wiki, add/remove attachments. I've reset and re-applied your permissions also. Andy -----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Gary Mazz Sent: 08 June 2009 19:16 To: occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Quick OCCI Update Before anyone hops on the snia bandwagon as an advocate, we need to assess the "level" in cloud architecture that the snai api addresses. We need to ask the question is their api an IaaS level api or focuses at some other level. Or have we relegated ourselves to throwing everything we can find in a rubbish heap ? Incorrectly positioning functions and features can/will adversely affect success of the IaaS interoperability specification and the implementability of the OCCI IaaS api. I have included a diagram with a proposed division of responsibilities for each cloud layer. If someone would like to add it the to wiki for comment, it would be appreciated. ( my occi wiki permissions aren't quite right) Comments welcome, as aways. -gary Sam Johnston wrote:
Afternoon all,
Over the last few weeks I've been busy evangelising OCCI at various cloud computing events througout Europe:
* Cloud Computing Expo - Prague (18, 19 May 2009) * Cloud Computing Expo - London (20, 21 May 2009) * Cloud Views Conference - Porto (28, 29 May 2009)
In addition to doing the Introduction to the Open Cloud Computing Interface (OCCI) <http://docs.google.com/Presentation?id=ddqm27m2_298fsf9mqdg> presentation I had the opportunity to sit on panels at the events and to introduce "Interoperability" as the topic for Cloud Views 2010. It was great to meet many of you and to have various opportunities to discuss (often at length) the API - some great feedback was given and good progress made on working towards consensus. We've found ways to evict Atom from individual resources and adopt a simple key/value descriptor format for a start which should make some of you very happy.
I also spent 90 minutes running through and discussing OCCI with the SNIA Cloud TWG at their last meeting (last week) which I think is a great opportunity for us to ensure that our respective standards are at least somewhat compatible and avoid a rerun of WS-* (I would hope for example that we can use an SNIA descriptor format to define non-trivial storage resources). Thijs is busy formalising this arrangement and a similar one with the DMTF and I encourage those of you who are interested in these projects to join them so we can get some cross-pollination going on (especially those of you employed by member companies - neither group is as open as we are).
Anyway I'm back this week after my partner's surgery and between looking after her while she recovers over the course of the month I'm hoping we can make some good progress quickly. It's in all of our interests to deliver while we still have an opportunity to be relevant as the last thing we want is to end up playing follow the leader (regardless of whether the leader happens to be VMware via DMTF or Amazon with an "open" EC2).
Cheers,
Sam
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Thanks Andy, I'll post it when I get back, my pda doesn't do wikis well. -g Edmonds, AndrewX wrote:
Hi Gary - I've just created a test user and assigned it the same permissions as you have. Using the account I've been able to successfully edit the wiki, add/remove attachments. I've reset and re-applied your permissions also.
Andy
-----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Gary Mazz Sent: 08 June 2009 19:16 To: occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Quick OCCI Update
Before anyone hops on the snia bandwagon as an advocate, we need to assess the "level" in cloud architecture that the snai api addresses. We need to ask the question is their api an IaaS level api or focuses at some other level. Or have we relegated ourselves to throwing everything we can find in a rubbish heap ?
Incorrectly positioning functions and features can/will adversely affect success of the IaaS interoperability specification and the implementability of the OCCI IaaS api.
I have included a diagram with a proposed division of responsibilities for each cloud layer.
If someone would like to add it the to wiki for comment, it would be appreciated. ( my occi wiki permissions aren't quite right)
Comments welcome, as aways.
-gary
Sam Johnston wrote:
Afternoon all,
Over the last few weeks I've been busy evangelising OCCI at various cloud computing events througout Europe:
* Cloud Computing Expo - Prague (18, 19 May 2009) * Cloud Computing Expo - London (20, 21 May 2009) * Cloud Views Conference - Porto (28, 29 May 2009)
In addition to doing the Introduction to the Open Cloud Computing Interface (OCCI) <http://docs.google.com/Presentation?id=ddqm27m2_298fsf9mqdg> presentation I had the opportunity to sit on panels at the events and to introduce "Interoperability" as the topic for Cloud Views 2010. It was great to meet many of you and to have various opportunities to discuss (often at length) the API - some great feedback was given and good progress made on working towards consensus. We've found ways to evict Atom from individual resources and adopt a simple key/value descriptor format for a start which should make some of you very happy.
I also spent 90 minutes running through and discussing OCCI with the SNIA Cloud TWG at their last meeting (last week) which I think is a great opportunity for us to ensure that our respective standards are at least somewhat compatible and avoid a rerun of WS-* (I would hope for example that we can use an SNIA descriptor format to define non-trivial storage resources). Thijs is busy formalising this arrangement and a similar one with the DMTF and I encourage those of you who are interested in these projects to join them so we can get some cross-pollination going on (especially those of you employed by member companies - neither group is as open as we are).
Anyway I'm back this week after my partner's surgery and between looking after her while she recovers over the course of the month I'm hoping we can make some good progress quickly. It's in all of our interests to deliver while we still have an opportunity to be relevant as the last thing we want is to end up playing follow the leader (regardless of whether the leader happens to be VMware via DMTF or Amazon with an "open" EC2).
Cheers,
Sam
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Hi Gary, what is your problem with the wiki? Your GridForge account has Member and Author permissions on the project, which should allow any action on the wiki. Best, Andre. Quoting [Gary Mazz] (Jun 08 2009):
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:16:10 -0600 From: Gary Mazz <garymazzaferro@gmail.com> To: "occi-wg@ogf.org" <occi-wg@ogf.org> Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Quick OCCI Update
Before anyone hops on the snia bandwagon as an advocate, we need to assess the "level" in cloud architecture that the snai api addresses. We need to ask the question is their api an IaaS level api or focuses at some other level. Or have we relegated ourselves to throwing everything we can find in a rubbish heap ?
Incorrectly positioning functions and features can/will adversely affect success of the IaaS interoperability specification and the implementability of the OCCI IaaS api.
I have included a diagram with a proposed division of responsibilities for each cloud layer.
If someone would like to add it the to wiki for comment, it would be appreciated. ( my occi wiki permissions aren't quite right)
Comments welcome, as aways.
-gary
Sam Johnston wrote:
Afternoon all,
Over the last few weeks I've been busy evangelising OCCI at various cloud computing events througout Europe:
* Cloud Computing Expo - Prague (18, 19 May 2009) * Cloud Computing Expo - London (20, 21 May 2009) * Cloud Views Conference - Porto (28, 29 May 2009)
In addition to doing the Introduction to the Open Cloud Computing Interface (OCCI) <http://docs.google.com/Presentation?id=ddqm27m2_298fsf9mqdg> presentation I had the opportunity to sit on panels at the events and to introduce "Interoperability" as the topic for Cloud Views 2010. It was great to meet many of you and to have various opportunities to discuss (often at length) the API - some great feedback was given and good progress made on working towards consensus. We've found ways to evict Atom from individual resources and adopt a simple key/value descriptor format for a start which should make some of you very happy.
I also spent 90 minutes running through and discussing OCCI with the SNIA Cloud TWG at their last meeting (last week) which I think is a great opportunity for us to ensure that our respective standards are at least somewhat compatible and avoid a rerun of WS-* (I would hope for example that we can use an SNIA descriptor format to define non-trivial storage resources). Thijs is busy formalising this arrangement and a similar one with the DMTF and I encourage those of you who are interested in these projects to join them so we can get some cross-pollination going on (especially those of you employed by member companies - neither group is as open as we are).
Anyway I'm back this week after my partner's surgery and between looking after her while she recovers over the course of the month I'm hoping we can make some good progress quickly. It's in all of our interests to deliver while we still have an opportunity to be relevant as the last thing we want is to end up playing follow the leader (regardless of whether the leader happens to be VMware via DMTF or Amazon with an "open" EC2).
Cheers,
Sam
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Hi Andre, The issue was any document or external link I added to the wiki required the person viewing the doc or link to be logged in. Andy just reset my permission, I'll check it later. cheers.. -g Andre Merzky wrote:
Hi Gary,
what is your problem with the wiki? Your GridForge account has Member and Author permissions on the project, which should allow any action on the wiki.
Best, Andre.
Quoting [Gary Mazz] (Jun 08 2009):
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:16:10 -0600 From: Gary Mazz <garymazzaferro@gmail.com> To: "occi-wg@ogf.org" <occi-wg@ogf.org> Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Quick OCCI Update
Before anyone hops on the snia bandwagon as an advocate, we need to assess the "level" in cloud architecture that the snai api addresses. We need to ask the question is their api an IaaS level api or focuses at some other level. Or have we relegated ourselves to throwing everything we can find in a rubbish heap ?
Incorrectly positioning functions and features can/will adversely affect success of the IaaS interoperability specification and the implementability of the OCCI IaaS api.
I have included a diagram with a proposed division of responsibilities for each cloud layer.
If someone would like to add it the to wiki for comment, it would be appreciated. ( my occi wiki permissions aren't quite right)
Comments welcome, as aways.
-gary
Sam Johnston wrote:
Afternoon all,
Over the last few weeks I've been busy evangelising OCCI at various cloud computing events througout Europe:
* Cloud Computing Expo - Prague (18, 19 May 2009) * Cloud Computing Expo - London (20, 21 May 2009) * Cloud Views Conference - Porto (28, 29 May 2009)
In addition to doing the Introduction to the Open Cloud Computing Interface (OCCI) <http://docs.google.com/Presentation?id=ddqm27m2_298fsf9mqdg> presentation I had the opportunity to sit on panels at the events and to introduce "Interoperability" as the topic for Cloud Views 2010. It was great to meet many of you and to have various opportunities to discuss (often at length) the API - some great feedback was given and good progress made on working towards consensus. We've found ways to evict Atom from individual resources and adopt a simple key/value descriptor format for a start which should make some of you very happy.
I also spent 90 minutes running through and discussing OCCI with the SNIA Cloud TWG at their last meeting (last week) which I think is a great opportunity for us to ensure that our respective standards are at least somewhat compatible and avoid a rerun of WS-* (I would hope for example that we can use an SNIA descriptor format to define non-trivial storage resources). Thijs is busy formalising this arrangement and a similar one with the DMTF and I encourage those of you who are interested in these projects to join them so we can get some cross-pollination going on (especially those of you employed by member companies - neither group is as open as we are).
Anyway I'm back this week after my partner's surgery and between looking after her while she recovers over the course of the month I'm hoping we can make some good progress quickly. It's in all of our interests to deliver while we still have an opportunity to be relevant as the last thing we want is to end up playing follow the leader (regardless of whether the leader happens to be VMware via DMTF or Amazon with an "open" EC2).
Cheers,
Sam
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